Dangus

Getting late in th season too...that fact and Lower temperatures in general have got to play into it as well, no?

Selective fishing is a joke. You see that putz that posted about "selectively" catching bulls in a Lower mainland stream on a big pink streamer?

I see the part on accumulative effects. One thing to consider, which is mentioned at the start of the article, is local adaptation to specific streams. Some fish adapted to live in conditions well above what "normal" rainbows existed at. Consider the artifical selection pressure heavy angling and no temperature closure has on the population. These fish get hammered. Only the strong survive. Given that it's still a world class fishery despite Mans best efforts to **** it up, it makes me wonder. Mind you, that depends on a large gene pool. Small, isolated cutty streams don't have that luxury, and my impression is that they'd be more susceptible.

Care to offer some literature that explains the trout stress response ( and it's apparent persistence)? I have only heard people beak about this, I've not come across an article. I appreciate your sentiment, but your hyperbole kills the mood.

Ya, of the retractable style, the dr slick is the best. I got a couple years out of mine before it retired. The sprIng system inside blew up. I think it got pulled out too far at one point.

They're all pretty shitty imo, but I've had the best luck with the Simms type

The grain window is like that to let you know what will adequately load or over load the rod. If you're using heavier tips and bigger flies, or like to feel more flex to time your cast, maybe err on the heavier side of the window. I think I've seen guys on spey pages chatter about liking the heavier heads on that rod. Bcube will call me out on this, but...t14 in the fall? Seems a little wild. How late in the season are you going? Usually type 6 handles it all...even in winter. I filed the 14 away and just fish 6 with a change the weight of the fly and my casting angle. Your arms might thank you at the end of the day!

Oh shitty. Just was flipping trough ironbows ad today and saw them but I didn't read closely.

I can turn over 6-7" streamers on a 6 weight switch with a 350 head. Generally not breaking the 50-60 foot mark though...not that you need to. I've broken the rod once, so I'm flirting with disaster. 7 spey is a lot of gun for the bow. switch is generally lighter. A 6/7 spey would work for most situations you listed other than chinook maybe, but I'd rather have a 4/5/6 for trout. I use the same 6 for summer steelhead. A fish won't be satisfying on a big 6/7 until its well into the 20s. A bit of a ramble but I guess my message is even my 6 switch is still a little heavy for the bow. I'd go for lighter rod and tie flies smarter (sparse, synthetics etc), then get a separate rod for atlantics and steelhead.

Did you check fishpond?

Why does this old article keep getting posted?

Buy something good. A 5 or 6 is going to be your work horse. These echo bases and tfo bvks give you a bit more than what you pay for. Sure they cast decently, but they weigh a lot and the finish is cheap. Tired of everyone pumping them up for more than they are. Before everyone hates, I own a bvk.

Ya jp, bulls have a wild range as well. There are some radiotelemetry studies on the koocanusa bulls and some individuals used most of the Tribs at one point or another while some just stuck to one.

My first thought is that there is more than enough room for the population. It's not a salmon run with millions of spawning pairs. I just wish the elbow had a more Natural flow. Probably let BC chime in on this one.

So they're eating streamers?

It's a miracle, no one interpreted this as trolling! I'm getting there!

I'm Glad you only play dumb

5 am. I'm going fishing. Hugs and tight lines.

I guess debating things and exposing people to different information is just" fighting" on this site. I made the comment about the ducks and pike as I figured that would bring up discussion about acetic acid. Not sure what the ph of a ducks gut is, but probably lower than that of acetic acid (>2 as far as I recall. Our guts are 2ish I think). But ya, science is stupid.

You can get a good look at a t bone by sticking your head up a bulls ass, but you'd be better off taking a butchers word for it. https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fsbdev3_015746.pdf They took spores, dried them with or without UV, or didn't dry. Rehydrated dried samples and put the samples back into dishes with or without tubifex worms. Dried samples didn't cause any spores to be released. Thorough drying kills the spores. Interesting to note, I read one study that said the spore goes through the gut of a (mallard) duck and pike unaffected.

You let me know when you're going and it's a date

You know that those long rods with big bottom corks and big hardy reels on them aren't always two-handers, right? Sooo...management. Pretty sure that includes the pincushions getting slammed every day In Smithers. One gear guy equates to 20 swingers easily. They don't need to be standing Fraser river style. Either way, it was obviously a poor ocean survival year because the Fraser salmon and Columbia steel/salmon runs are poor too. Scares me about the Thompson run this year. Seem pretty defensive. Must have a trip planned for this fall. You ready to fight yet?

That's not what I've heard. Guys fishing spoons, jigs etc. Looking at how many guys fish the bow with gear, I doubt it's any better than the vedder in winter. Maybe youre too Busy looking down at your slickshooter slipping through your fingers to notice them? How would limiting anglers stressing fish have no effect on the fishery? Talk about double standards. I guess steelhead are immune to everything you bitch about. It's almost like you think I'm suggesting putting less pressure on fish would make more fish magically appear this year! In case you forgot, swinging flies is a far lower percentage game than fishing gear, nymphing etc.

Pretty sad. I've put that trip off for years. Have always wanted to make it up there, but defected to US rivers because they were closer. Needs to turn into a lottery system, and/or eliminate dink bobbers shooting fish in a barrel. Too many people want to play.

http://www.habitat.noaa.gov/pdf/best_management_practices/Cleaning%20of%20Watercraft%20and%20Equipment.pdf