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  1. https://www.calgaryriverusers.org/mckinnon-flats-closure-september-01-2020/
  2. Jayhad: In 2006 the City of Calgary at the request of the Calgary Fire Department closed all previously public accessable boat ramps above Grave Bridge to " Emergency Access Only". Following the 2013 flood the CFD added the Shouldice Park and Quarry Park boat ramps to their exclusive emergency service boat ramps. Grave Bridge was left open because the CFD would get stuck on the new gravel bar after the 2013 flood. It became the only city ownerd public boat ramp. Nevertheless, many guides had access keys to the emergency access keys to Cushing Bridge and other river access sites in the city as part of an agreement between the old guide association and the city. In addition, for a long time the CFD and CPD did not always lock the gates to boat ramps but by 2016 things changed with the City of Calgary development of the River Access Strategy whereby new public access ramps were approved by City Council. West Baker Park upgrades were the first with a new CFD boat ramp added to the site and the old ramp was upgraded to what we see now. A new ramp at Inglewood and Ogden Bride was also in the mix. Inglewood access is problematic, hence the reason for CRUA approaching CMLS for access at St. Patrick's Island. Ogden Bridge river access site is being built this yeaR. So what I am getting at Jathad, if you have been able to access any of the emergancy access only boat ramps with a trailered boat in the last 10 years, you were probably doing so because the access gate was not locked, you had keys or accessed at some casual river access location of your own. Any of these options could get you a ticket.
  3. Vitalshok - it is listed on the CRUA website. The road access off Ogden Bridge is just south of the bridge before you go under Calf Rope Bridge. Supplies for the boat ramp and road construction are being stockpiled. Construction will start after runoff with completion in the fall
  4. Jayhad- I am not sure where you have been putting in or taking out, but both West Baker Park was closed to the public until this year and Shouldice was closed to trailers boat access until last year. Yes you could drop a boat in anywhere if you wished to carry it to the river bank. But now there are three designated trailers boat access sites above Harvie Passage. Toolman - the City of Calgary has invested $2 million in the River Access Strategy in the past two years with both West Baker Park boat access upgrades and the new boat ramp at Ogden Bridge this year. The GOA has spent in the region of $ 1 million for the new boat ramp at Harvie Passage, although the access to it is currently problematic. A new road to Mckinnon Flats is planned for this year at a cost of $2 million. Policeman's Flats has be upgraded over the past two years at a cost of $50,000 and an additional $25,000 of government (ACA) funds in 2020. I believe governments and their agencies have done their share.
  5. I believe that technically it is possible to maintain the 2M social distancing in the longer drift boats. I have just measured the distance from the middle of the rower's seat to the middle of the front seat on my 15' skiff at 1.70M. But under a days fishing it would be impossible to maintain the current social distancing guidelines. It appears that some relaxation to the mandatory 2M distancing guidelines is taking place. That is "wear a mask if the 2M distance cannot be maintained". With the use of buffs commonplace in the fishing community this may be an option. We all want to get out and enjoy our fishing with friends, but maybe this is the year for a solitary pursuit. Beyond the fishing the question of shuttle service operations needs clarification by the GOA. It is difficult to believe that social distancing guidelines can be maintained.
  6. It is certainly interesting to see the comments here!! Classical fly fishing community - bitch about everything and not appreciate what has been done to allow the city reach of the Bow River to be fished from a drift boat. A few facts: St. Patrick's Island is not a part of Calgary Parks Department. It is operated by Calgary Municipal Land Corporation who spent $$20,000 to make it possible for drift boat access. Be thankful- without this access the upper city reach of the Bow River would not be accessible to drift boats. The upper and lower concrete "roadway" are approved for vehicle use. Access is better from the top, down across the gravel based driveway in a wide approach and straighten up on the bottom roadway and you will be able to back straight into the lagoon. Avoiding the light bollard is a challenge, but will test your driving skills. There are proposals for improvements this year. Some will most likely be volunteer based. Others will more likely need a financial commitment from river users. Keep in touch with this post to assist with improvements. Parking is payer use. Park in the north-west area of the parking lot -pay for 2 stalls (truck and trailer) and you won't get a ticket. And finally keep a positive viewpoint on the boat ramp. We were fortunate to get access last year. I know of a dozen drift boat users from last year who used the ramp on a regular basis. Both as a take out and put-in to run through Harvie Passage. To run through Harvie Passage Low Water Channel the Western Irrigation Districts water diversion gates need to be closed. That was completed last week. And will be closed until mid October or later if the weather holds up. .
  7. Calgary River Users' Alliance has produced an overview of all boat ramps in Calgary and downstream to Carsland. https://www.calgaryriverusers.org/bow-river-boat-ramps/ You can also keep up with Bow River flow forecasts on the same website https://www.calgaryriverusers.org/bow-river-flow-forecasts/
  8. Monger: The statement "Although the cause/effect for the decline (in rainbow trout) was not determined, it suggested that angling effort could well be the major contributor to the decline" is in my mind accurate! The 2003 to 2013 data analysis did not pinpoint the cause of the trout population decline or the primary corrective action that should be taken. Even to suggest that angling effort could well be the major contributor in the decline is purely speculative considering the data set available to the investigators. There are more than 15 potential causes sighted in the CRUA document for the Bow River trout decline, therefore singling out just one, angling effort would appear to be questionable. You may consider the reference material in the document "bad science" but the reality is that surveys conducted over a short period of time cannot account for all the variables in the data set. Alternatively, a standardized scientific design that would give more validity is next to impossible to achieve with field evaluations and surveys. Many researchers have spent a career trying to prove an hypothesis and never achieved it. Therefore trying pinpoint the principal causes of the trout decline will be difficult. The most we can expect is to narrow the field of possibilities down to just a few. And I am in agreement with you that angling effort may well be at the top or close to the top. Wastewater discharge into the Bow River has improved considerably over the past 20 years. Fish habitat and invertebrate life has seen a change. Hydrology and environmental shifts have taken place that could well have had an impact on fish survival. And all the time angling pressure has increased. At what time did angling pressure out rank other impacts would be hard to define. But I believe we have passed it. Therefore, most of us would say that action is needed on the part of fishery managers to stop the trout population decline. Whatever changes are made to enhance the fishery will need to be based on the information that is currently available. Hiding behind "more research is needed" to make a decision is foolhardy. Adjustments to policy can always be made in the future if deemed appropriate. The decision to reduce angling pressure is more of a political decision than logical thinking. So, what fishery management change will we see is anyone’s guess! And thanks for the dialogue.
  9. New and Upgraded Calgary Boat Ramps open in 2020. Also follow discussions on water and fishery management. https://www.calgaryriverusers.org/newsletter-march-2020/
  10. I'm not surprised - campng is a non-essential service. When you see the cuts taking place within other departments, Alberta Parks was in line for the bullet. Will we see the planned $2 million road upgrade at McKinnon's Flats this fall abandoned? I have asked AEP that question. no answer yet!
  11. We need to recognize that the Bow River trout population abundance some 20 years ago was based on a concentrated food source from Calgary's wastewater treatment plants and a lot lower level of angling pressure. Since that time the trout populations appears to have seen a steady decline. The threshold between trout population and angling pressure has narrowed to where many believe the survival of the fishery is in question. Regardless of the fishery management directives that could be put in place, the Bow River will never return to the glory days of 20 to 30 years ago. But a good recreation fishery (not Blue Ribbon world quality) can be maintained by better regulations to reduce fishing pressure or as has been suggested start stocking the river. If these are the only options for a way out of the current declining trout population, there is need to consider what other rivers have seen. Montana is a good example where after an extended period of stocking flowing rivers, the practice was discontinued. Alberta's Oldman River and Red Deer River have been stocked with trout in recent years to establish a new fishery. But to my knowledge there has not been any supplementation of an established flowing water trout populations in the province for a long time. As I have mentioned previously, I am sure we as anglers will get a chance to express our opinions on any proposed changes.
  12. Danhunt: Two completely different arguments here. Fish farming and the "Artifishal" argument is rooted in a belief that any commercial interests are corrupt and that they need to stop. Very similar to intensive farming operations worldwide. By stopping intensive fish farming operations it is hoped wild salmon stock will recover allowing for society to feast on wild populations of salmon. Unfortunately the wild salmon population has probably passed a level of recruitment to sustain human demand for salmon. Exactly the same in livestock management where if intensive livestock management was stopped, the world wide human population would probably starve to death. I worked in the animal health industry for many years and had the opportunity to visit a number of salmon farms on the west coast. Some good, some less and came to conclusion that change was needed and how change could be made to meet everyone demands for meat production and ultimately protection of the environment. Therefore root out the abusers and support those companies who do a good job. Often economics of production will result in the latter. The Bow River trout decline is a totally different situation. Although economically angling the Bow contributes in excess of $25 million to the local economy annually and all 4 East Slopes Zone more that $300 million to the Alberta economy, the importance of water supply for agriculture, hydro power generation and flood control have far more economic and social importance than recreational fishing. Add to this, society needs for clean water and waste water management and control would suggest many possible influencers of fish population enhancement and controls are taken off the table. Unfortunately all of the above are outside the control of fishery biological control and management policy. and are driven more by economic considerations and social needs. Unfortunately the current water management policies and those that are being proposed for the Bow River basin do impact invertebrate life, fish habitat and fish feed availability. And during the spring and early summer can have a dramatic impact of angling success. I have argued with many individuals within the Bow River's water management regulator group for ways to protect the fishery, but outside of better control of daily fluctuations, federal and provincial statutes will need to change. So what is left, stocking the Bow River to meet angling demands, or regulation change to protect the fishery. Historically, stocking flowing rivers was discontinued in western north America many years ago with a shift to environmental enhancement and fishing regulation change. The choice will most likely be anglers to make. But if regulation change is forthcoming it would seem logical to stock contained water resources where regulations could be more relaxed to meet the needs for more fishing opportunities. So where do I stand on these issues and who do I believe I represent and influence. I am a recreational angler who has been involved in a number conservation groups over the years, but have been disappointed in commitments to recreational angling opportunities. The Bow River needs a voice of reason, no vested interest, just protect the fishery for those who wish to throw a line across a rising fish and maybe catch a few under the surface. I have the time to research the multi-disciplined viewpoint on these issues and hopefully present a basis for discussion. But most importantly protect the Bow River wild trout population for future generations. Everything else is secondary!
  13. When ever there is a hint of a need for closures of the Bow River and the foothill streams there always seems to be a way to deflect to other causes that impact the fish population. Unfortunately very few can be controlled under fishery management. Wastewater discharge will get cleaner, weed growth will continue to be almost nonexistent, water management policy will or will not impact the fish population, but will impact angling in the spring and early summer. Storm water discharge will increase as more concrete in laid down in Calgary. Whirling disease is here to stay but will it have an impact on the Bow trout population. Catch & Release and photo shoots are not perfect. Angling effort is increasing. and the trout population continues to decline. It seems there is only one solution that can be taken immediately to save the Bow River. Reduce angling effort! Catch & Release single barbless hook - no double or trebles. A conservation license to fish the Bow River and possibly all foothill zones. Seasonal closures - possibly going back to an open season of June 1 to Oct 30, but include the city reach on the river. An offset to these restrictions should be stocking lakes and reservoirs locally to those who want to fish year round an put fish on the fryer.
  14. Monger: Although you are correct that chemicals, run-off, pesticides and pharmaceuticals may have an effect on both invertebrates and fish, the questions is just how much impact and is there a reasonable cost effective way to reduce concentration discharged into the river is the question. It is being surveyed and reports if not available will be available sooner than later. Its basically an academic question, but will little or no way of resolving the issue if the human race is to survive in our current culture. Bow River Phosphorus Control Alliance Bow River Phosphorus Plan
  15. I don't buy the argument that a single flood, that is the 2103 flood is a principal reason for the drop in bug life because of a change in rock deposits and sediment. We have seen floods ever since trout were put in the river. Admitting they were of less magnitude in the past than in 2013, but severe enough to change the contour of the river bed. We tend to focus on the Bow River flows through Calgary, but as I have stated before, the flows below the Highwood were almost twice what they were above during the 2013 flood and therefore the impact of high flows would have been higher on the lower stretch of the Bow River. Hydro dams have been sited in many publications for the demise of invertebrate life and most frequently a shift in the proportions of mayflies, stoneflies and caddis flies. Therefore we should expect to see a drop in caddis flies and an increase in mayflies with a redefined flush each spring runoff. This has now been in place since the modified operations of the upstream hydro dam system to meet the need for flood protection for Calgary. Each April/May Ghost Reservoir is dumped followed by natural flushes through to the first week in July. This should assist with the recruitment of mayfly and stoneflies with a demise of caddis flies. Add the upgrade of wastewater treatment plants in recent years resulting in decreased biomass in the river, with less weeds and invertebrate life, we can expect to see declining fish condition and most likely a continued decline in trout numbers.
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