Hawgstoppah

I use bare gamagatzu's for bloodworms all the time (size 16-20) they are deadly. Nice piggies!

weird, did they take out the ability to link youtube vids? The text link above now works on my post. And yes, sundance, that made me cry too, but not in a good way LOL.

I didnt cry for that. Good story though, glad theres still some good people out there. I did, however, cry for this:

well I fished a 6ft deep fast chop last week with great success, with a #4 wire sjw, at 7ft from the indicator (or maybe a touch less, like 6ft), then one more foot, and a weighted stonefly nymph, and no split shot at all. Had I been missing tapping bottom I would have added a split or two (BB size) until I was tapping on every drift. I think what both me and psuedo are getting at (in different ways) is that your leader needs to be tight to detect strikes. I do it by suspending my flies just slightly deeper or even right at the exact depth of the area I am fishing, and varying length often as I change locations or even work through a run. He does it by using a longer leader and dragging flies a bit, which in turn saves you from chaging your setup all the time. Now I've never seen Psuedo fish, but from my own experience, when my flies are dragging the fish know it. Ever had a queitly sipping bow river fish take a dragging dry fly? I sure haven't. I assume the same happens down below. Unless your fishing emergers and then it's wise to let flies swing at the end of each drift, and as they come up off the bottom you will get fish chasing and hitting them (with no loose line problem, becuase your taking them on the swing). anyways, good luck out there. maybe it would help us if you explain how your setting up your drift with "indicator upstream of flies". I mend my indicator upstream of my flies initially, but physics dictates that the force of motion as my flies sink and my indicator starts moving downstream, that by the time my flies are in the zone their directly below and either suspended or nearly so, by my indicator.

Comparing methods used from the boat and from wading is like comparing apples to oranges though. you simply do not have the time to break down the whole river, so you fish with a system that does (longer leader, almost draging flies, splits at bottom, whatever works for you). If your wading the river, why not take the time to systematically fish it by varying your leader length? Start by working the water in close... I dont know how many times I catch fish in water people usually step into to cast to that big "seam" out there... in almost every spot I fish. then once that's been covered add 2ft, go a tad deeper, then maybe once that's covered, go all in add some more length and weight, and go deep and long. That's how you can catch more fish from one run than all these drifters think is possible I think the original poster was speaking from a wading and fishing perspective. If not than I am completely off base... as if your drifting you actually want to use a longer leader and I could go into a few other things - but they've been sorta covered already. He brings up rookies and adding weight to their rigs....Rookies in the boat are one thing, rookies from shore are another. They SHOULD be in a boat, if they only want fish. It's simply easier to be successfull from a boat if your a newbie to the bow. If your fishing the bow from shore and want those productive days you simply have to fish it certain ways. No exceptions unless the fish are in a good mood and are tucked into shore for you eating a hatch, or emergers.

Im giving general statements so someone new would have the best idea to start with. If you want to fish different depths, change depths of line. Simple as that. Dunoo why you seem to be attacking me this thread, everyone's gonna fish different no matter what. those who've seen me fish the Bow would say that I do rather well. I'm sharing how to do that...Nuff said.

all I was trying to say on my post was that sometimes with a long leader you THINK your going to get deeper, but in reality your almost losing contact with your quarry. It has to be just the right mix of weight + length for the depth your fishing. Most runs on the Bow dont require 9-11ft of line, you'll be losing contact. The fish sit in 4 to 6ft of riffle water when there hard on the feed. Beef up the size of that indi, beef up your weight a bit, and shorten that leader a bit and get back in touch with 'em. If your missing takes becuase your not detecting fish, the most common assumption would be that your leader is too long. cheers

I rarely use more thyan about 7ft to first fly then 1ft to next. If it aint tapping bottom I add weight rather than add leader. The longer the leader the more resistance it has in the water IMHO. I can get deeper with 5ft of leader and 2 tiny beadhead nymphs than most people could with weighted nymphs and a 12ft leader. It's all about drag free drifting to get deep, not leader length, per se.

The blue is way easier on the eyes than this. If it aint broken dont fix it. Take air canada's new crappy look as compared to the old clean one with red leaf on black tail. Your gonna mess something up that's good the way it is. cheers.

If it was Birchy holding that fish I bet it would looked like a minnow still.

I would have bought a lot of FFC gear if that dumb logo wasnt on it. No offense to max. even if it was me posing for that logo I still dont like it one bit.

spend at least 5 days on the Bow too. Don't miss out on those fish. Not quite secluded, but the lower bow r valley has quite a scenic appeal, it's a wonderfull river full of fish. others to hit N Ram, Red Deer Crow Oldman Livingstone If I were you I'd slip into BC and try some of the Elk R , and tribs there... only 2.5 hrs from calgary.

Ok let's here some stories from whoever got out to the streams today. I'm living vicariously thru u guys for the next couple days.

Yeah he's got a pretty good redneck side to him... I can see him happy as a pig in sh!t fer shooting a gun.

I cant beleive you were anywhere near russ on a lake and had trouble. That guy could find fish in any lake, anywhere, anytime. He's like Bloom. Trashes the rest of us. sounds like a lot of fun out there. Have you guys seen B charles there this year or does he still have a membership? I never did get out there last year with him. I really should try that place once.

aww man you guys made me laugh so hard my skirt flew up! :Hi jack:

Well I had the big "opening" today LOL... ehhemm so I'll be outta commision till friday but on friday I'm gonna go hit some water near home here.

I guess I gotta get a slightly larger fishing gear bag

mornings for nymphin for sure... and if you want to chase dry fly fish late evening has been good. for good flat out fish numbers... nymph from 4:30-10am and your money.

That's just wrong.... that thing shoulda have ate your LEG man! wow! awesome fish!

Yup my IR-2 on my 3wt is by far my favorite peice of fishing gear.. as a matter of fact I own 2 of them Now... if I could just find time to get my 4wt fixed so my wife / kids can use it..

That's a fackkin PIG man. nice work. yeah stocked or not .. I dont care who ya are..that's FUN right there!!!!!

Love the frog shots.

good stuff beed!

I'd be willing to bet it's more of a "fly too big" thing than anything else. I'd be willing to bet... that this isn't happening trying to tie a size 16 caddis on 5x... I bet your trying to tie a #4 san juan on 4x or something. Use a duncan loop... it will solve the "oversize fly for tippet" issue. If indeed that was the issue. I could be totally wrong here.