calguy1001 Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 I heard about this and created my own version. I'll have to give fishing it a try. Quote
calguy1001 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Posted January 12, 2009 what is the body on that? epoxy? Nope Anti-Static bag material I'll try to explane the recipe (my first time writing one) Hook 12 nymph Body Anti-Static bag material Rib Gold wire Thorax peacock herl Head Tungston bead 1/8 (black) The beads a bit small but after a few attemps I thought this size looked better. Quote
maxwell Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 sweet dude! i tye something simliar.. deadly on teh bow in smaller sizes Quote
Tungsten Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 Nice fly.If you get the right kind of bag, colors from underneath bleed through nicely when super glue is applied . Quote
Flytyer Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 Nice idea......I would consider tying this fella with maybe an underbody of holo tinsel and on a scud hook in the size 16 to 20 range. Quote
Guest Dennis59 Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 I've heard of using this anti static bag on several patterns, where would you get this stuff. Thank you in advance Nice fly I agree deadly in smaller sizes. Tight Lines Always Dennis S Quote
SilverDoctor Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 I've heard of using this anti static bag on several patterns, where would you get this stuff. Thank you in advance Nice fly I agree deadly in smaller sizes. Tight Lines Always Dennis S I got my last batch of anti static bags from a small computer repair place down the street from where I work (any computor shop that installs memory should have em.). The bags are for shipping memory etc. I asked him to save me some discards and got 4. They go a long way. I just slice a bunch thin strips off with an exacto knife as I need them. They make for very translucent looking bodies. Quote
calguy1001 Posted January 13, 2009 Author Posted January 13, 2009 I work in the field, so I'm able to pick and choose. I find the ones for memory are not as good a quality as some. I pick high end network hardware ;-) for my supply. But over the years I have found lots of different materials. Quote
Golfman09 Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Don Fresci used that on a Chironomid pattern in an episode that has run a couple of times in the last little while. I was confused as to what that anti static bag material was......He didn't show it in the original form so it left it for interpretation. I"m not a computer guy as well so didn't make the link. I've a buddy who is a computer nut....I'll be calling him shortly. Great job on the pattern....looks great! Quote
DonAndersen Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Guys, Here is a step by step from another site. Don http://homepage.ntlworld.com/radbard88/esbuzzer/ Quote
Tungsten Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Well so much for working on my fly swap flies,got the cronie bug now .. Quote
calguy1001 Posted January 13, 2009 Author Posted January 13, 2009 Guys, Here is a step by step from another site. Don http://homepage.ntlworld.com/radbard88/esbuzzer/ Thats interesting... I tyed this one this way. BTW sorry for the picture quality...I'm not much of a photographer. It's hard to see but I wrapped the body. Quote
Golfman09 Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 My computer buddy has some material for me......I knew he'd come through. Should have some done tomorrow! I can't wait. Quote
jack Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Can I jump in here with a suggestion regarding chironomids, guys? One of the most important things about fishing chironomids(next to being in the right place in the water column) is the profile of the bug. Chironomid larvae(bloodworms) are slim, tubular shaped things, but as they become pupae, chironomids develop a pronounced tapered shape and as they rise to the surface, prior to emergence, they begin to develop their wingcase which creates an even more pronounced taper and thorax bulge. When tying chironomid pupae patterns, build up the shank from the curve of the hook to the bead head in somewhat of a taper, with thread, prior to wrapping with underbody or body material. The taper, when complete, should cover the bottom 1/3 of the bead head. To illustrate, this is a pattern developed for trophy trout in the BC interior stillwaters(Cariboo), by a very talented tyer and anal chironomid fisher by the name of Tom Lam. The pattern, as I said, incorporates an initial tapered wrap of thread, then a fine copper wire rib, blue dental dam rubber (or blue cellophane from Easter Egg baskets?), with an overbody of antistatic wrap. Trust me, the tapered look works. j Quote
Guest Dennis59 Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Thanks guys I will check out a couple of the computer repair shops around here and see what I come up with. Tight Lines Always Dennis S Quote
monger Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Jack, what hook do you use for your chironomids? Quote
calguy1001 Posted January 14, 2009 Author Posted January 14, 2009 Can I jump in here with a suggestion regarding chironomids, guys? One of the most important things about fishing chironomids(next to being in the right place in the water column) is the profile of the bug. Chironomid larvae(bloodworms) are slim, tubular shaped things, but as they become pupae, chironomids develop a pronounced tapered shape and as they rise to the surface, prior to emergence, they begin to develop their wingcase which creates an even more pronounced taper and thorax bulge. When tying chironomid pupae patterns, build up the shank from the curve of the hook to the bead head in somewhat of a taper, with thread, prior to wrapping with underbody or body material. The taper, when complete, should cover the bottom 1/3 of the bead head. To illustrate, this is a pattern developed for trophy trout in the BC interior stillwaters(Cariboo), by a very talented tyer and anal chironomid fisher by the name of Tom Lam. The pattern, as I said, incorporates an initial tapered wrap of thread, then a fine copper wire rib, blue dental dam rubber (or blue cellophane from Easter Egg baskets?), with an overbody of antistatic wrap. Trust me, the tapered look works. j Thanks for the input. I'll have to try that! Quote
jack Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Jack, what hook do you use for your chironomids? That's a C49S Mustad Caddis, and having spent some time on Mustad's pro-staff(until last August), I am really only familiar with Mustad numbers, but the hook name is not as important as the good wide gap that most caddis hooks provide. For most larvae, I use a #12 R52S and occasionally a C53S. By the way, here in the Cariboo, there are a couple of lakes that produce a "different" strain of larvae, that usually show up immediately after a strong wind has stirred the water up and the turbulence has sucked immature larvae from their mud tubes. The trout immediately go cruising about 6" to a foot off the bottom, making an easy meal of these wiggling larvae that are trying to make their way back into the mud. Happens on shoals about 10-15' deep, with marl(white mud) bottoms. This is "the killer", size 14, note the white gills at both ends and the minor hump of a "head": That is a #14 C53S hook, nylon yarn, gold thread rib and white nylon yarn gills. j Quote
murray Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 I have several anti static bags that can be had for the asking. Just send me a message. 1 bag should build about a million or so of these bugs. Murray Quote
monger Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Thanks for your input Jack. I have been using Tiemco hooks for quite some time but am going to try some signature hooks this year. I have had some problems with nymph hooks bending open on some bigger fish. It would be nice if we had more than a couple of marl lakes on this side of the mountains. I may have to do a road trip to your neighborhood to find some AF3Ns to play with. Cheers, Rob Quote
jack Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 If you have an uncontrollable urge to play with really big 'bows, maybe plan around the last part of April. I know this lake see..................... If you rattle my chain around April 1st, I can let you know when ice is coming off. The 4-5 days after ice off is pretty incredible. Nooo, it's even better than that. Talk Brunsie into a road trip, he knows the way. j Quote
Golfman09 Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Awesome insight Jack....thanks for the heads up on that "Red Wiggler" That should work really well around here in the early spring from what I've seen. I took a stab at some black and red anti statics. Once you get the hang of tying in the bag it works quite slick. I'll try and post some pics tomorrow. Quote
Brunsie Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 After looking at the pics of the chronies, here's a tip When you're tying in the anti static bag, trim the end of the strip at about 30 degrees giving your self a long point on the end. Tie it in at the back of the fly by the very tip. This keeps the body slimmer at the back. Tying the bag in along the whole length of the hook can add too much bulk. BK Quote
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