My first decent rod was a 5 weight Sage "LE" (probably stands for low-end). It casts like a wet noodle, pretty slow action that can be felt through the length of the rod, which made it great for learning to cast. Despite it's medium/slow action it has some serious backbone, and can handle tossing heavy streamers, big worm n bobber rigs, and it's never had a problem handling 16"+ fish. Also, the thing is a tank, I've put it through some serious abuse and it has held up beautifully with only a few scratches. I 'upgraded' to one of the new TFO Lefty Kreh models (the 4-pieces that run at around $160), and while this rod is stiffer and has significantly faster action, it is noticeably weaker when it comes to fighting fish, and has trouble handling weighted streamers and even hopper/droppers. I think it's the quality of graphite that makes such a big difference between the two rods. I also had a guide break off my 8-weight TFO for no apparent reason, after only 1 season of use. TFO's cast nicely but that's about it - you definitely get what you pay for with fly rods.