to take a page out of your book sean, you're a douche...oh wait, i'm just kidding cuz you implied it first and i just responded...plain and simple, whether you are agreeing with clive or not, calling him an ***hole is just plain rude and uncalled for regardless of what you may think...these are truly the days of our lives...feel free to boot me dave if you feel i'm being an ass...i just don't care anymore... peace out...