dutchie

what a dummy , could of killed himself ,

thats just so true and funny , he can be a sob

nymphing for steelhead has been going on for lots of years , and not talking about just nymphing with a egg , small nymphs and even stone nymphs , i can't remember who it was that told me the biggest steelhead he ever got was using a big black stone while nymphing for them , maybe not so much on the west coast , but in ont and the eastern states it has been going on for many years , fishing with center pin reels for steelhead even longer , i have a old friend who's from BC and all he ever used to use was a hardy silex centerpin reel and roe for them , a guy with a center pin reel and knows what he is doing , can really fling it a long way out into the river i think allot guys who steelhead fish with spey rods like to keep it more traditional , i see nothing wrong with someone using a switch or spey rod for nymphing , works good on the bow river for trout and it's way easier on the body throwing them big nymph rigs all day long , and if your going be chucking streamers , well it's for sure allot easier and talk about making nice presentations while searching for big browns with big streamers , down deep and across slow slow

conor i 'm not sure on where it started on the swung presentaion , i would say england myself if i was to guess , and yes that's the whole ideal about it , fool the fish and make him move to your fly , the hotter fish as some call it , there could be 10 atlantic salmon or steelhead in a area , maybe just one will move to take your fly , in my opinion steelhead are much much more easy to fool or have them chase your fly then atlantic salmon , atlantic salmon can be fussy SOB , most times if they get pissed they will attack the fly , i don't think to eat as they don't eat after they come into the river system , till after the spawn and the winter is over , then they do but we call them ''blacks '' ok to catch and in truth easy again as they hungry and will eat on there way to the ocean again , just nothing for the fight like they are when they first come into the rivers steelhead , will eat , the hens will eat salmon eggs for sure , i can't say if they eat much after they come into the rivers, someone will know and hopefully answer this question , i did hear from a good friend who got a steelhead a few days ago with a good size rainbow in it's mouth i don't think nymphing for steelhead is a cause for any concern about foul hooking them , the ones i got when swinging the egg were all hooked clean , not sure about centerpining for them as i have never done that , but i don't think so myself , flossing is a dirty trick they do when fish stacked in heavy , mostly on west coast salmon and in alaska they do it big time , to me thats not even really fishing , more like snagging , if i'm correct i have never heard it before being done on steelhead , now nymphing or centerpining for steelhead with bait , like roe is hard on the fish as they take it in so deep and some fish die from it , when your swinging flies across in front of the fish , they chase and follow , then grab and turn which hooks them in the corner of the mouth most times , i only once hooked a fish while swinging a fly in the down and across for steelhead not in the corner of it's mouth , it was a hen and i stuck her in the bottom and inside of her mouth , don't ask me how it happen or why , but thats where she was hooked

420flyfishin you can fish a nymph or egg with a single hand rod or a 2 handed spey rod , some will laugh at you , but who cares, you do your own thing , the point that a few guys were trying to get across , was it's really easy to catch em that way , and the better way in some opinions is to swing for them , kinda like having a piece of apple pie , or have that same piece of apple pie heated with a scoop of ice cream on top , ones just a little better then the other Rickr come on tex , you should give it a try , those that sent emails wanting to see the best fish in the week we was fishing in the dirty water this year , well after chatting with Ty and getting the go ahead from him as it's his ugly mug shot and i didn't know if he was maybe wanted by the law ,before i posted these pictures , ha ha , here it is , we got this fish in ''the no name river'' he took a big black and blue intruder on the swing , this is the fish that left ty on his knees all out of breath , tuckered him in the fight he was bigger then that female that left us with tears after such a fight and at one point we were up on a big log running down it try to stop her , as she had her mind set on going down river through a big set of rapids , i had my hands on her 3 times and i was just not strong enough to hold her , she ended up sliding down a good trench and the line cut clean off on the rocks , i would say she was the biggest female i have seen yet , check out the size of head on this big wild steelhead , also want to add that Ty was using a 4 inch hardy wide drum perfect and had to do lots of palming it to hold this big buck from running away on us , great fish , great fight, and whats even better , no egg , took him on the swing so this fished moved to the fly , he was even better in real life , pictures don't do him justice , now maybe some can see why we think it's better to fish for fresher fish and take them on the swing , this fish even made me shake after i tailed him

nice pictures drew , i got there the day it started blowing out mud , it was crazy , rained everyday and the rivers just kept going up and up , we stuck it out for the week and got some fish , never went up to the babine this year as i kinda figured it would be packed with guys as it was the only game in town with good clear water , glad to see you got fish , we went searching and found some good water that was clear enough to catch fish , 2 ft vis

Over fifty years ago Roderick Haig Brown wrote about this technique for steelhead in his treasure of a book, A River Never Sleeps. I started down the pool happily, rolling the fly out into the tumbled water, mending the line upstream to give it a chance to sink well down . . . The fly came over the loaded place, and I held it there in quiet water at full stretch of the line...knowing how it hung, how it looked, how the water plucked at it and gave it life. I moved my left hand up to recover line, and the pull came . . Clive , someday i must get that book and read it , that is so like it happens , your flies will work just fine , i'll see ya anyway and i'll give you one that i know first hand that works , can't wait to see Al's intruders , as it's your first time Clive , if all else fails , then you go swing the egg , ha ha , just like the game monopoly , you get a free pass and don't have to go to jail , but i'm pretty sure you'll do just fine swinging for them , i'd like to see the look on your face when that big hard tugs hits ya i would have to agree 100% Rightyeegs , as i'm sure everyone would also agree , the bait is another big NO NO , my reason is i believe the fish take em way to deep and more fish do die from it , it is a full catch and release as they all wild , only a few places left in the world like it , catching a hatchery fish is another story , not saying i'm against using live bait on some fish , like worms for brookies as we keep em to eat , just not for these steelhead ,

mike brooks , those will be dandy , lots of guys use Syd's flies , so so many nice flys for steelhead , i'm not a great fly tier , don't have it in me to take my time enough on these steelhead flies , i always seem to be in a rush , when i do get in the mood , it takes me over a hour to do a nice intruder , so i don't tie to sell ,or i'd be piss poor with nothing , yet i buy lots of flys from everyone , i just like opening my boxes and seeing nice steelhead flys , classic ones , dee's , speys and even nice intruders i don't mind buying from guys at all , to me thats the cheepest part about steelhead fishing is the fly , the gas , hotel, tags, food , boat, rods, reels, lines , sinktips , and in truth it comes all down to the fly , so i like to buy stuff that i know will work , plus when i meet guys on the river we always like to do a show and tell and even trade or give the odd fly away , i tell this story to everyone , and it's the truth so help me god , i cringed and hummed and thought how crazy i was when i paid $15 for one fly, i think 4 years ago it was , yep $15 big bucks for one fly , then i gave him a $10 for another one , now this fly was a intruder style , done by Todd Scharf himself while i waited and watched him tie it , it took even him , a long time as he's pretty picky about it being well made , and with the best material , and what a better way for someone to learn from a master , is to stand right beside him and watch him tie it , so it was a win win for me in my mind , $15 bucks for a fly and a hour lesson i thought , first i just had to talk myself into spending $15 for one fly , after that it was easy , ha ha i knew inside me that this fly would catch me fish , i had no doubts in my mind whats so ever , well let me tell you that at the end of the life of that fly , we was glueing it in the hotel room that night and trying to get another day out of it , why , well that fly caught me 11 big fish all on the swing with some of the hardest pulls i'v had yet in just 3 days , best was a 39 inch buck , before it was finished and i had to throw it out , crazy when you think of it , 11 great steelhead for $15 bucks , thats like a dollar and a bit per fish so now i just look at it as only having the best fly's i can get and use , as you don't get allot of chances at these steelhead , so for my mind set , i like to have the very best flies i can get / buy / trade or do myself , you have a whole year to get some good fly's , you don't need allot , try to get some from those who fish the rivers you plan on fishing as they will be in the know what works the best

ha ha clive i will stop in and see you and Al '' adc'' for sure , i know where your staying , just finishing my packing now , waiting for '' angryjohn '' to fly back from texas and then were hitting the road you do have my cell number for texting me , looking forward to seeing you both , i will tell you that you won't see em sipping on top like those big browns and rainbows i showed you and Al on our float trip , that would be just to easy , your first fish will be one you'll always remember clive , so handle it with care and savour the moment , they still take my breath away , everyone of them , i tailed the biggest fish ever '' for me '' , this year for my bud on the first trip over , Ty got a fresh buck that was well over 40 inches , he was so tuckered out at the end he was on his knee's , just before i grab the tail and held him , wasn't my fish but hell it took my breath away at the beauty of such a sweet fish , the raw power in my hands , made me shake all over , Ty looked like he was going to cry from the sight of him and holding such a fish , it really was something to be a part of , i'd post a picture but last time some guys got all carried away and it was a *hit show , don't want to talk about the big hen that gave us a really good licking about a hour before that , and left us standing with our mouths wide open and tears running down our face , had my hands on her 3 times and i couldn't hold that fish leave that story for another day , maybe at your cabin when we have a sip or scotch Rob stop by anytime for some good books on fishing for steelhead and tactics , also have some great books on steelhead flies , and no egg patterns in it , ha ha , this winter again i will have a steelhead party at the house , was a good time last winter, watch some good video's , all is welcome and great to meet new people and you'll be shocked at just who swings the odd egg every now and then , i'll leave it at that , i seen this saying the other day , made me laugh , was on another forum , i think it's kinda true with about how addicting this steelhead fishing can be , here it is below ''I've heard that fishing for steelhead is as addictive as crack.........I think I could kick crack.''

Monger what a hot topic you started , some great posts made , your feeling dirty already and you haven't even gone yet , ha ha , thats just to darn funny so before it really gets into a shits show , as some of these guys i think just want to chuck crap at each other , i'll try to give you my thoughts on it my story and advice to you STORY first time i went , i had the thought of just wanting to catch one fish so i could add it to my list of fish caught , as i spent my days growing up fishing and to me atlantic salmon was the king of the fly fishing , i'v gotten well over 100 atlantic salmon on flies , even some on drys , small green bombers , now thats another story for another day when we meet again on the river Monger , so i had forum member Silver Doc and Mike Mailey from Southbow fly shop , tie me up some flies to swing for these so called steelhead , i didn't have a clue where to start or even what to use , so i sought advice , did lots of homework the time had come and after the long drive over , was 3 of us , the first couple days and i think maybe i had 2 fish swinging , swinging was easy for me as i had been doing it for years , only thing was with a single hand rod and atlantic salmon , they just hold in diff spots then steelhead , i should add at most times they do , but i was this time using a spey rod which i will say helps in getting more distance and is a joy to cast next day i was standing in a run fishing when 3 guys walked past me and started above, coming down the run following me , about 10 mins into it a big fish jumped out in the river and the guy above hooked and landed it , another 10 mins goes by and another bigger fish jump's about 40 feet out from me and the same guy above me hook's it , i'm thinking to myself , holly *hit this guy is picking up fish where i just fished through it , i turn around and walk out from the run as the fish is so close to me by now from coming to the bank , and i said to him i would help him land it , my reason was to just see what he was using , when i tailed his fish , i couldn't believe what i saw in it's mouth , a '' EGG '' orange in colour , he could hardly speak english but after 20 mins of talking with him , and nodding my head many times , he told me it was all he uses , and he got 7 fish the day before , and he ended up getting another following me down to the end of the run , well that night i called a buddy in the area and he had some tied up , next day we went a fishing with the egg , i never used a float / bobber / or yarn , just a big sink tip and it was kinda like letting it swing , same way i seen that Italian fellow fish and catch 3 in less then a afternoon but to me it was still nymphing , only without a indy , i fished for them just like one would do on the bow river as my thoughts they were really just a trout anyway , i ended up getting lots of fish , it was in my opinion very easy , was still allot of fun at the time , i think i got like 15 one day but the guys who were with me said i got 18 , don't matter on the numbers as i just want you to know monger that it is a deadly easy way to catch em , some will call it swinging the egg , call it whatever one wants , to me it's still nymphing for them , they do it lots and lots in the east for steelhead , ont and in the eastern states , most times they use floats or indy's after that first year and my one week trip , all i could still think of was that great clean silver hen that gave me such a fight on a swung fly the second day , she was not the biggest fish of the week , but she was the best fighting fish of the week in which we got 55 steelhead between us and a couple were in the 40 inch and way bigger , hands down as she was so hot and fresh , i can still see her in the air out in the middle of the bulkley next time for me , a full year later i went for a week , i used the egg for a day only when it was slow going and got a couple fish , then the water cleared and i was back to swinging for them with flies , after some great fish on the swing with intruders and such hard pulls that sometimes would almost rip the rod from your hand , it came to me that this was a much much better way to fish for them , and if you hit it right , it can be just as deadly as any egg , only way way more fun and very addicting , i had some days with 12 hooked and landed 6 all on the swing , now you must understand it was a good year for fish , better then they have seen in years , that is not the norm for steelhead fishing , i would say like getting one a day is good if you decide to just swing for them , i went back again for another week , slept in my back seat of my truck , i was now getting hooked bad , and this time again , i only swung for them , had a blast , caught again lots of fish and was really getting this so called steelhead '' tug is the drug'' , so after that trip , well again i went for another week and swung only intruders and black leach patterns for them , i was now very very much into swinging only for them , words can't say what it's like , you will have to see for yourself , i'v seen you fish and i know you'll get into them , it's more of how bad you want to tough it out as it can be slower fishing for sure at times this year so far i have only again swung for them and i will never use the egg again , one could say , i grew out of it by just catching a bunch and getting lucky with a good year for a run of fish , i was able to land 27 fish in one of those weeks all on the swing , it changed me in a big way and the whole thought on fishing for steelhead , i have this year also gone to swinging classic speys and dee's for them , plus also using a 12 ft bamboo in splice joint with some older hardys perfects , it add's to the overall battle and the excitement , i can still remember the day on the bow river about 3 years ago when PKK told me that it's a growing thing and a learning curve , and he told me that after a bunch of fish i would grow to swinging only and then even going after them with drys on top , he was so correct , because he's seen it before many times with guys , now i find myself looking for them so called '' hot fish that will rip you a new ass hole in a good fight '' for my last trip of this season , it will be 16 days swinging some great flies and will be no swinging the egg for me , i will go blank befor i do and enjoy the moments on the river as it really is just god dame nice to be alive and able to fish in that country , i no longer have to get fish to make my day , it's now about the experience next year in 2012 , i plan to just spend my time on the main skeena fishing for the even better hotter fish my Advice to you Monger go get some eggs , take em , stop by my house as i think i have 6 or 7 and you can have em , also i have some great books about steelhead fishing and your more then welcome to have em and read em , just return them when your done , for your eggs , go to troutfitters downtown and get some , they have a steelhead guy on staff who likes to fish em when it gets tough , ha ha , go get yourself some fish , have fun , but i think once you see the whole package , you will grow into swinging only for them once you catch a few , same as i went through , PM me and i'll give you my cell number as i'll be around the smithers area and you can text me , i'll have my jet and might be able to take you for a day with me if your having trouble finding some fish or spots and remember this Monger from me , as your already feeling a little bit dirty , when you have that big steelhead on and you get em in your hands , look at that egg in his month , it's dirty, but nothing a good clean shower won't fix , ha ha all these great posts , some really made me laugh , PGK , easy big fellow , chris , we know how you feel about us fish whores from calgary who nymph , we don't have the luck of living in your country and able to fish everyday for them , so try to understand that guys do like to catch fish , when they take a week off work and spend that kind of money to fish for steelhead , just might not be your way of fishing for them bcube , well stated brent , and it's kinda like using a nymph for cutty's on the oldman , they deserve better , i'd sooner sit all day on a rock and drink coffee and wait for them green drakes to start popping Righteggs , your so correct , it is not a numbers game for sure , and yes brian is a fish whore , everyone knows that , yet everyone can fish the way they see fit to do , i still pray for brian at night hoping he will see that the '''egg or red worm''' is not king , ha ha , just don't ever think or bet with him that you can outfish him , as he'll eat you alive i also think and feel that everyone can fish whatever way they want , , and yes if you really just want to pound some fish , like Rightyeggs says , go get a long rod with a centerpin reel and you'll slay em , use the egg , get some of them pink rubber worms , have at it , and to hell what people say or think , if thats your cup of tea now if your looking for a better experience and i'm pretty sure it will change the way you fish for steelhead, then swing for them with a speyrod or even a single hand rod , and hang on tight for the ride, as nothing is like it for me , i like this tug on the swing , the harder the better , sends shivers up my back and gives me goose bumps , i love getting my knuckles wacked hard in the fight , palming my reel , and last , this is the gods honest truth , i have never ever smoked a joint , tried any of that hash or coke , any dope at all in my life , but if it's like this steelhead tug , i can see and understand now why it's so hard to quit and people get addicted sorry about the big post , and again this is only my opinion , not right or wrong , just the way it happen to me and for those who fish with eggs , beads, big pink worms , whatever is your cup a tea, if you can try to give it a go with a 2 handed rod and a nice classic spey fly and get em on the swing , you'll be more then happy and i will go so far as to say that it will change you

thanks don for posting that , good one , hope this wakes the judges all up in the province and they now start giving bigger fines all the time

that must of been a fun trip for sure , thanks for sharing it with us, nice pictures also

i'v seen him once myself for a few seconds from the net , but he broke free from the guy with me , brian got him with a guy in the highwater at run-off , tough fish , i'v seen a rainbow this year that was kinda scared bad on one side , we call him Two Face

thanks , and i hope you get the $300 reward , well done ,

oh thats so good to see that again , smallest player on the boston's team bitch slapping the big soft captain swead around , just way to funny ,

smitty your correct in that there was a bunch of small thugs , but i'll also add in all the youtube video's i'v watch and on TV when it was happening , sure was allot and i mean allot of canucks jersey's running around , no one can tell me they were not fans , you could see them jumping and screaming about the canucks so to help make it sound better for the media and city , they come out and say a small group of thugs , whats a small group , 10 , 20 , 50 , small to me would be at the most say 100 , i only have seen 1 person in all the video's wearing a mask , yet i would guess i seen at least 10,000 wearing canucks jerseys , but no chance they were fans , or was the group of thugs not small and was big those standing around in my eyes just as bad , cheering them on , oh don't get me wrong was allot of true fans who were disgusted by what they were watching being done , if everyone would of left after the game when it started to get out of hand , then the cops could of done the job way easier rounding up the so called '' small group of thugs'' , yet i don't believe it was a small group , this is not the first time them crazy canucks made a mess , like 3 times , a whole bunch of sore losers who just wanted to raise a little hell , here's a couple of the so called small group of thugs , looks like canucks fans to me , wish i knew how to blow the pictures up as the guy on the car is holding the lic plate and wearing a canuck jersery ,

i was going to add a doughnut to go with the timmies for you Ricky , but i seem to remember reading or a post that you were into the tour d france biking these days to lose some weight so i didn't want to tempt you bud , for you being such a good sport , i'll open my wallet a wee bit more you want one or a big dozen Rick , and you know it will have to be all '' Boston Creams '' for you , ha ha

oh how i'm going to savour that whiskey coming from you Ricky , i'll give you a chance to win it back next year with some luck , ha ha , and your correct Chara is not from Sask , you might also want to send some flowers to them girly pansy swedes today rick and tell em just how you feel inside , ha ha lets get out for a fish ricky so i can rub it in some more , i'll bring you a canadian timmies coffee

them crazy sore loser fans in van don't deserve a team after last night , can't say it was a small hand full of thugs , i watched it on TV till 1 in the morning , i'd say half were wearing the canucks jerseys so i have no respect for what i seen , even at the end of the game booing betman in the house , they were all canucks fans booing , i don't much like him also , but when he started to speak and give out the MVP award they could of shut up for a 2 mins and showed some respect , and they just carried on when he started to speak on how well the bruins did to get the cup and handed the cup to the captain of the 2010/11 Stanley Cup Champions , just a whole bunch or sore losers , tough to take a licking in game 7 on home ice , no one hurts more inside then the players of the canucks for losing , they showed some respect and kept civil for the new champions the NHL has the power to give a team to a city , and they have the power to take it away , if i was betman i'd pull that team and give it to a city that deserves it , this is like the 3'rd time i think that they have gone stupid with destroying the city , shame shame on them , they sure looked good in the eyes of the whole world the series was the canucks to lose , oh they were so high and mighty , only trouble they lost sight of what was at the end of the tunnel , some will blame it on the canucks goalie , i see it the other way , yes he should of kept his mouth shut , but he was good all season and when he played at home he was good , in boston it was another story and in my eyes it was the players fault for giving up , the captain of the canucks is a bum , and is a disgrace to be wearing that C , they should strip it from him and send him packing with his bags , he's no leader , just a pansy who scored some goals , just not any while playing the most important series of the playoffs send them twins packing as to me that was the breakdown at the very start , give that C to the canuck player who gave it all , even when hurt he never stopped trying to win , he played every shift for the canucks ,'' Kesler '' you could see the tears rolling down his eyes at the end of the game , i felt sorry for him , the best team won as they played like a team and had a captain who set the example and lead like a leader should , they had the better goalie and they never gave up one second till it was all over , now they can spend the summer relaxing and taking that cup back to boston and have a big parade while Vancouver cleans up the mess they left behind last night ,

oh Ricky R where are you , how's them girly sweads feeling now , 4-0 was a good enough licking for a game 7 , left allot of canucks fans in pain , the healing process starts now for them and they won't live this one down easy , what more could we as Boston fans ask for , win it on the canucks home ice in game 7 , the better team won it the funny thing today on the radio , i heard the captain of the canucks being ask about tonights game , he said it is going to be enjoyable , wonder how he enjoyed it now , so glad that pansy didn't get his hands on the cup i just finished that fine bottle of whiskey from the last bet we had between team USA and Canada Rick , and i'm looking so forward to this new bottle from you , please write on the bottle for me so i can keep them in order , much sweeter tasting knowing it came from a big ol texan who loves them swead's it's all in fun and about time Boston won the cup again

might as well bring it out now as Boston is going to be carrying it around anyway in another 20 mins , 3-0 the pain is already in them knuckleheads eyes , you can see it , they lost the cup on home ice and even worse taking another licking , couldn't happen to a better team , watch them fans destroy downtown after , 20 mins left and the best team will be crowned the stanley cup champions , the sipping on the whiskey is so easy tonight

in my eye , no such thing as a canadian team anymore in the NHL , teams made up of players from all over the world , last time i seen a canadian team play was in Feb 2010 and they won gold medal everyone has teams they like and cheer for , and teams they hate sad to see that raymond get hurt , worse then it looked when you see him walking with help off the ice , just hate it when someone gets hurt like he did , it was not a dirty hit , and no intentions to injure was the call , ref standing 10 ft from the play ,

your not sulking already birchy , your team still has a good chance and very well might pull it off yet , i'm hoping at the very start Bostons goalie '' tim' comes out and knocks that swead on his ass again , i couldn't care if boston took a 2 min penalty for it , it would set the tempo , now even better have tim just grab him and bitch slap him like 6 or 7 times as what happen in the end of game 6 , that was the best part of game 6 next to winning was seeing that little boston player bitch slapping the captain of the canucks and him just standing there and taking like a whip that he is , he's a pansy and i'll puke for sure if i see him put his hands on that cup , i will be just sick inside if that bum even touch's the cup , i'd like him to stand there and watch the bruins carry it around nice and high on his home ice and birchy , come on about Raymond , looked like he was faking it like his teammates have been doing for most of the series , Van has home ice and the edge going into game 7 , lets just see what happens , everyone said a sweep at the first when they had both games 1 and 2 , how fast things have changed , do or die is the best game , now it's almost over and without a doubt the Boston Bruins deserve to win the cup way way more then them knuckleheads , but anything can happen in a game 7 and i'll have my fingers crossed and so will most of the hockey fans in the world for Boston , as plain and simple fact , best team made it to the end

LMAO just seen this poem a die hard boston fan posted , way to go Craig , There once was a team of Canucks a gang of cheap hitting ****S! For that shot on Horton They'll answer to Thornton Like the Yankees, Vancouver just SUCKS

hello 2 handed trout , how you doing Dave , you lost and what you doing over here , i'm just getting ready for the big game in 1 hour , no fishing for me the last couple days , rivers high and dirty and they calling for rain on saturday , might go sunday if it's nice out how's that little honey of a wife you have doing these days , she must be a wreck seeing her team take a *hit kicking the last couple games , plus knowing if boston wins tonight then you might as well say it's over for them knuckleheads from Van , you just might have to step up and get her some flowers to cheer her up Dave , here's one for ya to think about Dave before the big game What has more flashing red lights then the firetrucks ??? the net light behind ''Luongo'' ha ha