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Indeed. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Only metric the gov't uses is "if you've made both sides mad, you're probably doing something right". The UCP right is generally in a state of apoplecticness, and left feel the NDP aren't left enough and have betrayed their brethren. Yet I'm not trying paint Northfork and TIghlines with such a broad paintbrush as my above generalizations would seem. We can all agree to disagree. I for one, still have an 80% conservative voting record over my lifetime. I didn't vote for the NDP because I thought they had the perfect platform, nor were they an ideal choice for me. But, they were better than the alternatives. Northfork, I see this totally different; hard to believe you've been in the province for more than 5 years, if you think Minister Phillips is the worst one we've ever had. Yeesh. I do give them credit for taking action on certain files and paying attention, unlike the previous gov't particularly since the mid 90's. I try to look at this as practically as possible; I don't see the UCP developing policies anytime soon that appeal to me in terms of the health, education, and the environment, so, c'est la vie. It's why I've been attending Alberta Party events, and see where the wind is twisting there. Don, did you think a couple of years of change in gov't policies would percolate down and result in a titanic attitudinal shift in the squatters / abusers? Did you think change would happen overnight? Surely not...you've lived in this province long enough (longer than me) to ingrain a more cynical point of view than that i hope! Squatters and OHV crowd have had 2-3 solid generations of free-for-all, wild west mentality, it's not going to change in 36 months. Especially, when they are positioning themselves to back their boy saviour Kenney and have him save the day in 2019. All they are doing now is just riding this gov't out, and hoping the few 'wackier, lake-of-fire' types who want to be candidates don't sink their ship. I digress. I like the majority of changes this gov't has done, and I give them kudos. And funny enough, I suspect, for as much as they will or won't listen, they're probably more inclined to be receptive to critical feedback when it is balanced off with some recognition and encouragement.

Folks, got this link and it is a good one for FF history. http://www.johnkreft.com/old-fly-fishing-and-fly-tying-books/ Don

And that right there, gives me the right to observe, evaluate and comment if I wish.

Smithy, i ain't looking for an attitude change. I want a behaviour change. And frankly, I give a crap what it takes. Fines or jail suit me just fine. i'm long past sitting on my ass watching my province get destroyed. Don

For all who have been following this topic, a series of meetings were put together by AEP and the fishery stakeholder groups to address Bow River fish population declines and flow stabilization. The title of the round table discussions was "Flows, Fish & Fishing" - an interesting title. The most recent meeting included TransAlta staff and AEP Bow River Water Management Group. A number of commitments came out of the latest meeting on Tuesday July 31, 2018: Flows out of Bearspaw Reservoir have been stabilized and will be continued where at all possible. There is potential for a long-term water management change to stabilize flows into the future. AEP will conduct and expanded a Bow River trout population survey in September of this year There is a recognition that the Bow River trout population is in decline and may be under threat from environmental and water management practices. This within itself is a major shift in policy and makes all the work we have done on this portfolio worthwhile. On the subject of river flows and invertebrate survival. A very difficult field of investigation given all the variable that exist in a flowing body of water. We have discussed the subject with both AEP and academia with potential support of a research project that will give more insight into the subject. We would like to thank all stakeholders who have contributed to these important discussions Bow River Trout Foundation

Actually we do send lots of e-mails to the feds and Notley and even a dew to Shannon Phillips, none of them are positive unfortunately.

I agree, way too extreme. Although it's all good for fisherman and hikers, the hunters are getting the bone. OHV use should have exceptions, like for the purposes of assisting disabled outdoorsmen and game retrieval. Although I don't agree with all the flat-brim wearing, public land abusing OHV user's, the NDP have taken this whole thing way too far

While I agree with a lot of it, I would NEVER give Shannon Phillips a pat on the back. She has the biggest double standard of any environment minster we've ever had, and is never willing to listen to both sides of the line. There are some major proposals up here in my neck of the woods now, which, mostly would do a lot of good, however there are a few things I think are far too extreme. We need to develop better ways to adopt integrated land use management, and a lot of her plans for this area would threaten a lot of peoples livelihoods. Hits me in the feelers for sure and I won't bite the hand that feeds.

Ah, if you are coming down the 22, definitely quicker to zip back toward The Pass or to Lundbreck, rather than to the Pincher area. Not sure about the fire hall, as I've never stopped there... Google maps shows a sani dump there, so looks pretty promising. But if you stop and buy a lot of beer at the Oldman River Brewing Company, I'm sure they would give you some water... then everybody's happy! Have fun on the Castle! Edit: I'll try to remember to zip past there when I am heading west (tomorrow or Sat likely), to see if it still looks like a go.

Two unwritten backcountry traffic courtesy rules. The big heavies always have the right of way going in or out and if two vehicles are about the same the vehicle going uphill or has a sharp drop off to the passenger side of the vehicle has the right of way

Adams, please record the number on the front of the truck and phone the logging company. They need to know which driver demonstrate discourtesy or drive dangerously. Don

You hit it on the head. Not as many dollars to chase these days like there used to be, working the weekend and getting 12 hours of OT isn't an option to lots anymore.

My next thought woulda been “well how did it fish mid week?” Reports good or bad, move quick. anyways, what does it say about Us if we’re making blanket statements from a couple isolated casual observations? Ha

And weren't these responses predictable!

Anybody miss the good Old Days when all campground water was OK to drink. No testing was a Ralphie save some bucks idea. Don