ladystrange

clive i didnt give him antron shuck. lol. i dont even think i have any

oh yeah. and all the fur stuff that looks like it came from the animal and not a package, did. that is why it isnt labled. the 2 bags of deer are both mule. the long red feather is pheasant tail dyed red and the one that is natural that looks the same, is the same but well, umm, natural. for the dubbing, most of it is seal fur, not synthetic. dont worry about matching exact colours. the yarn can be used as a substitute for dubbing. i imagine the thread, floss and chenielle are straight forward. the brown fuzzy strips are beaver, the black lumppy fuzzy thing that used to be a hat is fox, the fluffy feathers in the bag with black, white and bluish are ostritch hear. the really light and fluffy (olive green i think) are CDC. anything else that could pass for dog, is probably wolf. the clump of white very translucent longish fur is polar bear. ummm. i cant remember what else was in there... we could play name that material, if you wanted to take pictures... LOL give us something to do

dont worry about colour for now. i any feather hackle will do, any chenielle and any marabou. and you have will have a funky wooly bugger. i did throw in the bag of black marabou didnt i? i know kerry threw in the beads, leave them be for a bit. i have more deer hair than i could ever use, so go nuts with those bags of hair. if you need more, just let me know. try an elk hair caddis with deer. play with the dubbing, and plamering hackle then add the deer hair. killer dries. if the bible just gives patterns but no beginner stuff, try the concise hand book of fly tying by skip morris. very good for beginner skills try - brassie, gold ribbed hare's ear, the adams. streamers like the mickie finn are good and so are clousers. the other book i started with was fly tying techniqus and patterns - try wallmart. if you cant find it there, wholesale has it.

here is my contribution. Royal Coachman hairwing sorry for the delay, lost track of the date

no, no. i think clive is right, i've heard bono sightings in town. i didnt know he fished.

playdoh, ur right, that does look an awful lot like Bono. he was in town a few years ago playing with U2.

Pattern #4 Hook: Partridge K3A # 16 Thread: 10/0 gudebrod tan Rib: Fine Silver Wire Body - fine tan dubbing i will pass it on to Palemorningdunce

grrr. that was frustrating. thanks guys. at least i found a few. but i also found nils biography as well as Gary lafontaine's

sorry for the delay, i forgot to check and didnt get a pm. i need a moment to google

i definately like this idea. what if there was just the outline of the body, legs, tail and wings in black & silver thread mixed, the colour of the body would be the background material of the item it was on and the interior of the wings done in a light gold and you could even have the tail in the same colour to match the wings and stand out rather than just black or fading into the background. that would cut down on the detail and make it a little more simple

i would like to know what the purpose of the licence would be. where does the money go? what would it be used for that we, the general angler, dont already contribute to? maybe mor CO to babysit the guides, chase them down on the river and ask for 15 sets of paperwork? yes guides should have business licence if they operate a business, a smart guide would have insurance - at least a liability policy to save his/her own but from being sued if a client takes a tummble and decides it is the guides fault for putting them into that position, or what have you. obivously they are paying income taxes (at least on traceable transactions ) but buyer beware, if you, as the general public, wants to take a trip to some backwater place with limited access in dangerous terrain, it is up to you if you have a guide who has insurance or first aid or not. it should be up to the public to ask the questions, good reputation of the guide, knowledge of the area, survival knowledge, first aid and so on, like a sat-phone. conversely, a day on the bow river in the city stretch, these things may not be as important. since liability waivers arent worth the paper they are written on and any smart lawyer can win a negligence suit. these are things that a guide should be thinking about but personally i dont think the government needs to hold our hands to tell us what to do and a guide has to pay the government for the privledge. so i agree with colin, i would feel more comfortable if a guide was insured, was operating with a proper business licence ahd first aid. but i dont think it should be the government's responsibility to make sure that the guide has all these things for me. i'm an adult, most people going on these trips are adults, let these people ask the questions themselves. even if there were a licencing system, does the government then become responsible to make sure that the guides are on the up and up, i dont think 'permitted' guides should have better, more or exclusive rights to a waterway over anyother angler who has paid for a yearly licence. nor should the general public be able to tell a guide to shove off if there are too many people on a river section. there really isnt anything else to regulate that doesnt already fall under the fishing regulations. one could bring up the number of people on a guided trip, but that is already self regulated. the guides i know won't take more than 4 people out with just one guide. if the purpose of the licence would be to have the guides pay royalties for the usage of the water, then bill it as a percentage off of the provincial income tax every year to the company - not the individual guide (read set up numbered corporation and employ yourself). i would like to see the money go back to the fisheries directly for improvements, clean ups, hatchery & stocking programs and not just a cash grab excuse for the government. clive asks Why do we need fishing licenses? to help fund conservation efforts, stocking programs and pay CO Driver licenses? because vehicles are complicated and deadly and there are rules to follow in order to operate one safely, without killing your self or anyone else, this does not always work, there are accidents but that is why it is called accidents Permits to cut trees? to stop companies or people from raping and piligeding the land and clear cutting it into oblivion - ie: amazon jungle. Permits to own guns? cash grab, other than domestic incidents, the majority of the gun commited crimes are done by the people without a permit Business licenses? part accountibility, part cash grab, part tracking system, part governmental make work project Dog licensees? cash grab, municiple make work project, pay for vet and food for unwanted/abandoned animals so we dont turn into mexico Pussy permits in some cities? (Cats...we are talking cats here.) same as the dogs

LOL, brownstone, i thought once you lose bodily function control it would qualify as a coma

thats how i feel about the orvis i have coming to me.

a lot of the salmonoid runs this year were either way down or almost non-existant, even the native fisheries closed down their sockeye run. strange year. i was in Campbell river in August/sept. the pink run was down and the cohos were just coming in but all the ocean guys said the coho numbers were way down in the straight. i only saw about 10 pinks staging in the quansam just below the hatchery. i spoke with the hatchery guy and he said to date about half the numbers that usually come had actually arrived. so i dont think you suck... flyangler. beauty fish btw

how cool is that??? would love the oppertunity to met and fish with you Dan. in the mean time, have fun and enjoy the adventure.

passing out does not qualify as 'sleeping'

you never know rickr... she might. you know what they say about Italians besides, he could be from brooklyn or jersey

i dont remember posing for that

did you get a mule? i know dutch dryfly was looking for some

both those sites are good. i have added them to my favourites and will take a longer look at them later. thanks

it will have to be tuesday. this weekend is @&%$-show for me and i am volunteering for the TUC dinner on thursday. i will pm you on sunday

BAAAHHHHAAAA HAAAA HAAAA HA! i think i need to simplify my tying. this might be the way to go. tie one pattern and one pattern only and then call it whatever you want at any given time. then that way when someone asks what you just caught that 23incher on, you can say, a bow river leech or copper john. then watch their faces when you pull out the SJW and explain the action of the material movement in the water when you strip it in at different speeds.

Kenbow, the italian barbie groom, ad-libs his protest to strict labour over fishing rule to a nagging Barbie

clive, that is the strangest PTN i have ever seen. especially without the whole pheasant tail part... anywhere. perhaps you should start a SJW post

i definately need to get out more. lol let me know how the headlight damsels work. but seriously. other than 1 fish, all my fish on the bow have been with streamers. and in july in my favourite spot, they were hitting on a few dries and the rest were little streamers that looked like rainbow fry. i dunno. it works