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oddly, this did not work in the reverse for me. my ex didnt come fishing but he also didnt hang out with my mom either... apparently i did something wrong

well, too much education leads to beard growth. we really must stay away from beard growth in every way possible. I love Kittens

How to Teach Fly Fishing to Women Contributor - By an eHow Contributing Writer The popularity of fly fishing among women has increased dramatically over the last few years. It's not just men teaching--it's also women who have been fly fishing for years. Teaching fly fishing to women is fairly easy if the woman is interested in learning. Difficulty: Moderate Instructions. Step 1 Explain that there are many nuances and details that she needs to pick up on in order to be successful at fly fishing. Fly casting for women is an individual technique. Women are not as much into all the details and nuances as men with the technique required for fly fishing. Step 2 Teach her fly fishing from her perspective. Understand that women tend to learn better from other women because the environment is much more relaxed and less intimidating. Step 3 Take her to your local river for a fly fishing lesson. Show her the proper way to hold the fly fishing pole and how to choose the best flies. Show her how you do it, and have her emulate what you do. Step 4 Encourage her by telling her she's doing a good job and that she's doing it right. Also, be sure to laugh and joke around with her. If she's having fun, she'll enjoy the experience more. Step 5 Comment about how nice the scenery is. If she doesn't get to experience nature much, help her understand different types of fish and different types of flies. This will expand her interest in the hobby. Step 6 Maximize her love of the outdoors by encouraging her to attend retreats for women led by woman fly fishing instructors. These retreats offer rest, relaxation and sharing good times with other women who want to learn fly fishing just like she does. A lot of these retreats also have other points of interest like nature walks or hiking. Step 7 Encourage her to join an online forum dedicated to women who love to fly fish. It's fun, informative and she'll get the experiences and tips of the sport from other women. June Cleaver was such a good sport, being chained to the stove and all, never gets out into nature to commune with the birds and the see how pretty the mountains are. she just loved it. if it wasnt a E-how, i swear it was written in the 50's. while some of the points are valid some of them are off the wall IMO. E-How to "teach a woman to fly fish"

OMG!!!! now THAT is funny how/where did you find that?? so it isnt a religious ceremony, they are feeding the fish. we truly are ignorant of the ways of others LOL

Really?? we are going to resort to name calling again. it was lowbrow when MV called me a bitch, now you're just turning his words around to call me bitchy, immature, crazy, mean and short-tempered??? And no, i'm certainly not perfect nor do i think i am, nor do i think that everyone else is wrong and that i am right and my poop don't stink. why dont you try to get to know me before passing judgement. i take a situation and then spend the time to see the multiple sides of each before i do something and act accordingly. i also like to play devils advocate and play off the other side regardless of what my actual opinion is to broaden the horizons of others who take the time to understand, as well as my own. it is healthy to see things from another point of view. very few things are black and white. i do tend to confuse people when i do that, except the people who know me or those who also take the time to figure it out. since i dont know Heimdallr, i was more surprised that he understood without knowing me and also had the courage to say it. you and MV decided to jump on me and attack my character and call me names and not even bother to ask, what did you mean by what you said or please explain your point of view. and all over a fictional satirical story? i apologize if you or anyone else didnt understand but there is no need to attack me for your incomprehension. everyone has an opinion and are entitled to them, not everyone is open to taking the time to understand someone else's opinion. which is why what MV said is perfectly stated.

oo, oo, can i be the tempest?!? hey, we can all call bylaw on the next person we see throwing junk into the river. i wonder how bylaw would take it if i called and told them the city was discharging treated crap into the river? would the city give it's self a fine for dumping waste? anyway, although not particulary relgious myself, i can appreciate ones need to celebrate to a particular idol but doing X but in my personal opinion, which has no meaning in relation to anything, if a river has been subsituted for the ocean, why cant something like a back yard pond with flowing water be used in stead? this is a serious question, is there a reason not have the ceremony in your own yard and toss whatever coconuts you want. why does one need to throw objects (not exclusive to haggis or coconuts) in to the river? i agree, it is littering and unsightly. maybe i will b climb a tree with my camera and video tape it. i want to be THAT GIRL

that was funny but i thought you were posting this one i love the guy with his fly line and reel the other way than normal

thank you for understanding Heimdallr... i'm just surprised it took that long for someone to clue in

I keep hearing rumours of coconuts. but never found one

2 hefty bags and some duct tape.... fix you right up

just got back from fishing with Avalanche. great meeting you, had a lot of fun got some great pictures of mama and her ducklings. and one really annoyed beaver. risers everywhere, each and everyone of them laughing at us as a last ditch effor on the walk out Dale tossed his rig in a pool and hooked a beauty rainbow right in the butt. 1 butt hooked rainbow trumps my 20+ inch white fish. Avalanche 1 - LS 0

yes and no yak. she may have been annoyed that the nice truck was parked in the drive way and the beaters parked in front of her place... except that they were not right outside her front picture window. they were parked on the side of the house that only had 1 window. the bathroom and it was a small window, which i think was either over the toilet or could have been in the shower, but nothing that you would spend your days gazing out of. if she had come over and discussed it politely in stead of leaving nasty notes and then swearing and screaming at me before i even had a chance to say something to her, then we probably could have attempted to do something. not that there really was much we could do. the cul de sac was full and there was 1 spot in front of my house that my neighbour used, the rest was on her side of the street. and if we did park the crappy truck in the drive way she definately would have been staring at it out her window. really, with the houses so close together in the new neighbour hoods it really is hard to find parking. but she didnt ask nice, she threatened and swore, jumped up and down and flailed her arms like a 5 year old throwing a tantrum. i really wasnt going to go out of my way to make her happy. i dont answer to being bullied. Lynn, there is a soap called CAmp soap, it is biodegradeable, non toxic, phosphate free etc blah blah blah, you could drink it if you really wanted to

guess it is a good thing i dont do drugs

let's try this again... i'm not defending myself but i am explaining for those that did not understand and since there still seems to be some grey area that the grey matter didnt pick up on, we'll do it again ok? i portrayed fire frog to be the person washing the car... therefore, not putting him down (Fire Frog mentioned the only way would be to use a camera). so i dont know why you are offended. he was the guy washing his car and minding his own business. again, you can insert any situation you want... where someone comes up to you completely unsolicited and starts asking questions about what you are doing and then proceeds to tell you that you are wrong. even more so, that what you are doing is illegal. now i dont know if he happens to keep a copy of the bylaws on his person to back up the information, which really doesnt matter and is completely irrelevant. the point is that most people dont like being told by relative strangers that they are doing something wrong even if you do have the legal documents to support what you say. just watch COPS or judge judy my suggestion of info and providing soap samples was A) just one method, not litteral and C) metaphoric for anything that could be done differently from what he was already doing in any situation, depending on how the question are asked or info delivered they can be completely normal and productive or come off as completely creepy or even offensive. offended people tend to lash out in defence for example, you are minding you own business and someone comes up to you and starts going on about religion, one situation - a JW knocks on the door, they are dressed in a suit and we pretty much know what is to be expected, we thank them for dropping by, take the little book and tell them we arent interested, unless you are interested and then the conversation is generally welcome. they have a message... to them it is very important to share the message. in another situation, some random person on the street approches and starts preaching about God and religion and reads from the bible (actual person in vancouver BTW) but he is unkempt, maybe hasnt had a shower in while. most people are going to think the guy is crazy and want to get the hell out of there ASAP. why??? because the random person preaching made the person uncomfortable. so what is the difference? the difference is the delivery and perception. both messages are equally important to both people, maybe not so important to the person receiving the message. people tend to tolerate the JW and will even listen yet they shut down and are not willing to accept what they do not understand now back to the previous situation. i turned the situation around to be seen from the point of view of the person receiving the information. i wasnt "pretending" to agree with anything. nor did i disagree with the method. i completely agree with his message. the reason of playing devils advocate is to provide a point of view not always thought about. he said he was having trouble with the acceptance of message. i dont know what his method of delivery is. all i know is that in general most people become completely irrational when they are told they are doing something wrong. i wasnt comparing him to THAT GUY, it was an exageration of how other people perceive the people who are passionate about thier beliefs when they do not share the same ideal. the hyperboli was to emphaize the point. obviously this was misunderstood and again, since the Dear Abby format was used as a joke... in case you have never read a Dear Abby colum, she uses pen names either ones used by the writer or she makes one up using their situation. i used the format and was joking back. as for calling because the guy was being a jerk?? my point was that maybe the guy wasnt being a jerk, maybe he didnt understand the message because he misunderstood the because it is reasonable that they were annoyed by the interruption, then was asked questions and eventually told they were doing something wrong and perhaps the person missed the point due to a lack of understanding. but hey fill your boots if you want to call. car washing guy is right up there with a dog barking to the city and wont make a difference, just annoy your neighbour. i'm not saying they city wont respond because they will but it wont be on the top of the list of things to do. they will get to it if and when they can. how long does it take to wash a car? 20 minutes give or take. do you really think that bylaw enforcers dont have something better to do than wait for someone to call about a car washing complaint? so you need proof, how else but to record it, but then someone could be perceived as having nothing else to do or worse yet irrational and unpredictable. if you re-read Fire Frog, he even says it is a waste of time and the only way would be to get a camera and record it. thus me throwing in why it would not be a good idea. it was a trip to far fetched and rediculous to make a point. which Fire Frog understood. no, we did not OWN 4 trucks. i had one and he had one. he had a company truck that he had to take home each night but was not allowed to use it for personal use. he was a construction foreman and was expected to drive all over the city supervising jobs and did not go to the main office and shop site every morning. the project truck was an off road vehicle that he and his friend were working on. the friend actually owned it but we had the garage. i tried living in calgary and taking transit from one side of the city to the other for work everyday. it just didnt happen in less than 2 hours each way. i tried for 2 years until i just got burnt out being on the bus and train for at least 4 hours a day to 30 km And i am originally from West Vancouver, not Alberta, so you can stop the slagging of Alberta. BTW, you still didn't apologize. and just to head off another conversation about 'street preacher'. he was a real person who preached on the street just off of Granville and Robson. i spent many days and hours on end listening to him, talking to him and watching how people reacted to him. people did all sorts of awful things and reacted in all sorts of ways because they didnt take the time to talk to him or understand him. people live in their own little bubble, all we can do to make a difference is understand this and change the way we deliver the message. fact of life is that people fear what they do not understand and react adverse to rational behaviour expected from an adult i grew up near a Hall and had the JW every sunday. we would invite them in, discuss their literature and their message. my actual religion is none of your business, all you need to know is that it is different. the defintion of insanity is repeating the same action and expecting to get a different result. so if you already know from past experience that a calm discussion about car washing and the environment, where the water goes and what it's effects are, why would you continue to atempt the same manner delivery, expect a different result, which doesnt happen, then become a jerk yourself when you get frustrated that the person doesnt understand you and you resort to calling bylaw? why perpetuate the misunderstanding? why not consider a different method? if someone is that passionate about a cause, the expense of a few flyers and a sample bottle of free product to support your cause, then the minor expense is not a sacrifice to change the ideology of the target person(s) it is just another tool. why would it not be reasonable? or another method, like host a neighbour hood meeting and invite a bylaw enforcer to discuss things that most of us never think about, such as car washing or how long you can leave your car parked? Frypan, i'm not sure if you are being sarcastic about the random camping ruining the west or just making a generalized statement. i'm not exactly sure what it or car washing has to do with working for an oil company. please explain.

i know a perfectly good tree you can sit in... i can even lend you my camera

Thank you FF, i do believe that you are a relaxed person and just want to do your part to pay it forward. i didnt think you were being a water nazi. but because it seemed by your post that you had tried and failed on a few occations with different people, i thought i would go to the extreme opposite side to play devils advocate and show that even the most innocent and innocuous manners of passing on important information can be taken poorly when it seems like some one tells another that we are doing something wrong and to give another point of view. and MVDAOG, you might want to re-read the Code of Conduct. here i copied the important part for your Please treat all other community participants with respect and do not use FlyFishCalgary.com forum features to threaten, harass, stalk, or abuse other users. The purpose of our communities is to exchange information and opinions on Fly-fishing and Fly Tying, and provide an open forum for users of all ages. Please avoid personal attacks, slurs, trolling and profanity in your interactions

i guess i need to dumb this down so that some people understand... fire frog used the dear abby referrence so i answered using the dear abby standard response. see Bhurt's response where he highlights the satirical yet supportive manner in which i agreed with fire frog attempt to educate his moronic neighbour and at the same time poke fun at the way he illustrated his description of the message delivery i then went on to say my point is, although you would be well within your rights to call bylaw and report the washing of cars with chemicals etc and i would certainly support you, if you think about it a little and put yourself in the other guy's shoes for a moment, what would you think... oh look - to the skim reader who perhaps missed where i said - I SUPPORT YOU. (i capitalized it so, in your blindness, you might not miss it the second time around) i then went on to show another point of view as fire frog being the guy washing his car but you could subsititue anything or any situation where some person comes up to you and makes a moronic statement... in a manner that could be considered as an attack and since you didnt understand it the first time... the 'sad' part would be every one thinking that the guy who means perfectly well and passionately about a cause - any cause but who goes about it in a manner where no one understands the what and how and he ends up being not taken seriously and looked upon as the crazy guy who rants about how you use water but since all they hear is blah, blah, blah, water, blah, illegal, blah, blah, i'm going to tell on you, blah,., blah, blah they miss the importance of his message i was pointing out general human behaviour when confronted in a manner that is COULD be construed as 'in a threatening' manner. which i am sure is NOT what Fire Frog intends - although it cannot speak directly to fire frog's intentions other than statements the first post, where the question is posed, why can't people comply? because we are selfish and think that nothing we do can affect anything and we are special, it's the OTHER guy's fault... and the little old lady working on her garden, i will clarify for you. picture any residential street in a new neighbourhood in Calgary, there is a main street with several off shoots of T intersection with cul de sacs. because of the 6-8ft between houses and also because of no back allyes, all the drive ways were in the front, thus not a lot of street parking. my husband had a work truck, a project truck, his personal truck and my truck. the old lady as you assumed was probably late 30s, maybe pushing 42. the garden, was city property easement space NOT on her property but stretched down the lenght of her fence and she had the corner lot. she had a parking area in her alley. she owned 1 car that was parked in behind house on her property. do you get the visual here before i move on? she has no reason to park on the side of her house facing the main street, she is planting on city property that faces the main street and because she has the corner lot on a T intersection with the only street parking available because all the driveways on the main street were so close together, there was no where to park. the project truck was in the garage in various states of being worked on. my husband had a new truck and did not want to park on the street so he had the drive way. the work truck was an old beater and the one i was driving at the time was not much better so we parked across the street. on city property where the general public has every right to park as long as it is moved every 72 hours. i guess me parking my truck there was fine for the first year we lived there. when my husband got the work truck with his new job that is when the lady starting leaving messages on windshield - which i mentioned. such as but not limited to - move this POS, you cant park here, i'll call the city, on and on etc... one day i was out side and she came running outside and yelled across the street, arms flailing... if you dont move this junker i'll have it towed it is shading my flowers. to which is responded. it is my husband's work truck, i will let him know. to which she said something along the lines of, that's not good enough come move your #$% truck now!!! i went in the house. i proceeded to print off a copy of the court of queens bench parking bylaws and went over to her house and gave them to her. i then told her there was no where else to park, and there is nothing in the bylaw that says we cannot park there. i wont bore you with the rest, however, she called the fire department up to say that the truck was leaking fluids. which it wasnt, they told her that and then told her not to waste their time. she continued to spend the entire summer everytime we came or went screaming out a window, off the patio, from her yard about how we should not be parking in HER parking are in case she felt like parking there. and then she would call bylaw daily to measure how far i was parked from the T intersection. hence the reason WHY i kept parking there. at some point there are people so ignorant, there is nothing else to do with them i would also like to add the 'garden' was north facing with a fence behind it. it didnt get any sun regardless of whether or not i parked there. and i also said before, IF she had approached me and said, hey look, i would prefer that you didnt park your work truck there, in a nice calm manner in which we could have had a civil conversation and discussed options and alternatives, i would have gladly tried to work something out. the moral of the story was that if you come off like the crazy lunitic, no one will take you seriously, regardless of the purity of your statement or mission i was quite frankly just teasing fire frog and offering one of many possible solutions in altering his approach and delivery so that he CAN make a difference to our watershed. now, perhaps you would like to go back and realize the error of your ways and apologize for calling me a bitch

i hijacked one of jayvees pictures but this is the kind of picture i would like to see represent the ultimate trout. something unique from a very cool vantage point and perspective.

if you are buying a 'high end rod' for the name, then for me, no it isnt worth it but if it is more important for you to be running around with a stick with 'name' just for the sake of having a stick with a 'name', then that is up to you and your choice. every rod is different, every caster is different and every application is different. if you (generally speaking in third person) suck as a caster then running around with an $500 sage or $900 Winston isnt going to change the fact that you general third person) suck. you just have a whiz stick in your hand that you cant operate and look like a poser i know some beautiful casters who make my $80 cortland 5/6 wt look like a $1000 rod, why, because they can cast and they can adjust their cast to rod they are casting. why did i buy a cheapy cortland rod? because i was getting back into the sport 10 years ago and wasnt sure if i was going to stick with it and didnt want to waste the money. did i look any different with a sage than i did with the cortland??? yeah of course i did, i looked like a newbee with a bad, bad cast running around with $500 rod. do i own a sage now?? yes. did i pay the retail $469.00 for it... hell no!! and i wouldnt pay just for the name. it has a specific application - 4pc, 4wt 7ft 9 fast action and it cost me $220 on a clear out sale brand new. (shop still made money on it too) i also have an Amundson Midge that comes with 3 & 4 wt tips 4pc with a moderate/slowish action and it retails for less than $200 and a custom 4pc 3wt 8.5 ft that was built for me and my cast, priceless to me, no value to anyone else all of which i will be using in the high mountain streams this summer i also have a Loop AEG that i bought brand new and discounted in a 5wt to replace my Orivs on the Bow and will use the Orvis on lakes because it is longer than the Loop. i also have a 15ft 10wt Loop Yellow spey and an Amundson 11ft 3/4wt spey/switch. yes the Loop works just fine on the Bow but is way over kill. where as the 1134 is perfect for this application but the 1134 would not be the stick i use if i fished the Fraser i have an Amundson Wind Warrior in an 8wt for Pike which retails for approx $250 and has a life time warranty, they are located in Burnaby, BC. I cast it all day long and caught pike on it, without any wrist pain or arm fatigue. i dont own rods for the names, i own rods for the specific purposes i need them for and what works for me. personally i have never liked TFO or Reddington because they dont feel natural to me when i cast them but i'm sure they have rods that would fit my applications. i just dont like them. just like i am not a big fan of my cortland rods anymore. they had a specific purpose 10 years ago and they have a specific purpose now - now i use them as teaching rods. but they caught their fair share of fish when i used them basically they are all sticks with differences in the mechanics but they all are meant to do the same thing, get your line and your fly out to where the fish are so in answer to your question if a TFO feels good to you and you can cast it to fish and then catch a fish with it then why not use it? if you want a 'brand name' because it feels good and you want to spend $500 on it, then go for it, or if you find a heck of a deal on one and it suits your purpose, then go for it. but dont buy one because you think it will make you a better caster or will work better just because it is a name brand and you spent a significant amount of money on it because it wont do diddly for you

there is, but i dont know what the time period is. the leader and tippet material will breakdown with exposure to UV light and i do believe florecent lights but dont quote me on that. which would mean depending on the store you shop at - like a big box place that orders lots at a time and stores it and then puts it out but who knows for how long it stays there until it's sold. it could still be fresh or it could be 5 years old i find it has had the bisket when it breaks with less force as indicated on the lable and i chuck it. i also only buy as many leaders as i think i am going to use in a season and if i start getting down and it is only part way through the season, i go buy more. why chance losing a fish to weakend material when it is completely avoidable? why buy 5 years worth of stock of leaders just to save a few dollars when you may end up having to replace it anyway

happy b-day Peter. at least it isnt snowing so i hope you got out fishing

dear green peace/PETA lover most people done think the rules apply to the other guy, not them. while it is commendable that you want to help save the planet and make a better life for all the little fishies out there, perhaps it is the way you deliver the information with immediate confrontation. rather than coming off as the neighbourhood busy-body with nothing better to do but tell people how to use the water they are paying for and then threaten them with bylaw officers and fines, maybe you could do some research on eco-friendly bio-degradible products that are fish friendly while accomplishing the mission of keeping the family stationwagon clean. make up a flyer of "did you knows?" educate your target and influence with information. get a bunch of sample bottles of an acceptable cleaning product and hand them out. people like free stuff and inteligent conversation. people will respond a whole lot better to, hey i noticed you washing your car the other day, did you know that regular detergent is harmful to the environment, causes an increase in plant life in our river systems which sucks the oxygen from the water and kills fish, which could then wash up on the shores and create a rotting mess and cost the city hundreds of thousands of dollars to clean up that the tax payers would have to pay for and since there is no budget for such an event the city would have to raise property taxes? here is a bottle of the stuff i use and an info sheet on where strom drain and ground water go... obviously i was playing off the dear abby thing. but in all seriousness, i had a parking nazi that lived across the street, she didnt like the fact that i parked on her side of the street because it blocked the sun from her flower bed. bylaw says i have 72 hours before i have to move my car, which i did every day anyway because i had to go to work. if she had come to me and asked nicely not to park in front of her house and gave a reasonable explanation, i would have gladly not parked there. but since she came over like a ranting lunitic, left notes on the windsheild, called bylaw to make sure i was not parked too close to the T intersection and was generally an all around a$$hat, busy-body, useless @#$%% so 'n so, i went out of my way to park both of my cars in front of her house, leaving my drive way free, specifically because i could, nothing that bylaw could do about it. it ended when she moved. WHY??? because i could, just to irritate her. my point is, although you would be well within your rights to call bylaw and report the washing of cars with chemicals etc and i would certainly support you, if you think about it a little and put yourself in the other guy's shoes for a moment, what would you think... you are outside enjoying a nice warm spring day and washing your car, you have no idea that washing you car is illegal and that the soap you are using is harmful. along comes the neighbour... hey buddy, whatcha using to wash your car with??? first thought is, what's it to you and who the hell are you? you answer - my wife's dish soap. neighbour says - well that stuff has all sorts of chemicals in it and it seeps in to the drainage system and ground water and it goes in to the river and damages fish and the environment and... and... and... at some point you stop listening to the greenpeacer/peta lover and go back to washing your car. now greenpeacer/peta lover is irritated because you didnt listen to him and blew him off with basically a Please F!$#$ OFF , so now buddy has his nickers in a knot and thinks, well i'll show you, you little arrogant ignoramus and he calls over to you. And what you are doing is illegal so i'm going to call city bylaw on you, and they are going to come out here and give you a fine and everytime i see you washing your car with that stuff i'm going to call bylaw and it's going to cost you a lot of money... at this point, really it is tantimount to, i'm going to tell your mommy on you. so what, you call 311 on a saturday, you might get the odd guy who is bored and will come out, by this time the guy has probably finished washing his car and hosed all the suds away. so what's left... water stains on the pavement, oculd have been from watering the weeds in the back alley. so how do you prove that he was washing is car? yeah, i guess you could waste your time and climb the tree down the street and sit in wait like some crazy stalker chick trying to get a glimps of her ex with his new GF and take vidoes of the guy washing his car and then call bylaw. but why bother when there are so many other more passive ways of acomplishing your mission without being THAT GUY. and the first time you call, you might get a well done, thanks for the help speech, but eventually you will have talked to every 311 employee and the next time you call, you get put on hold and she says to her co-worker, hey guess what, it's that crazy water nazi again... do you really want to be THAT GUY??? the guy to who complains about the kind of soap you use to wash your car and sits in the tree down the street just to get video of it because you have nothing better to do with your days... how sad is that to be THAT GUY???

this might sound a little odd, but i just saw a guy selling full grown, wrapped trees out of the back of his flatbed/tree truck on hwy 8 and 69th SW i think i have seen everything... i can now die happy in on a fishing trip knowing this

why risk it, pack the tools and the non-animal product stuff you might need kept in the original packaging and buy the rest there. or try mailing a few things to yourself

my friend used to get it often in his feet and knees until he changed his diet and started drinking lots of water but at least it isnt a kidney stone. another very painful problem