what is wrong with loop? its a rod that is finally carried in town and people are diggin them.. they are top notch in any price range they sell and definetly compare and out perform alot of the other rods out there... mad because too some your brand isnt there favorite? the hardy demon is nice but the tip section is a big weakpoint.. ive heard of over a dozen rods sold so far that have busted in teh first few trips.. sage flight has cheap components, loomis has a few stick that are not too bad in teh higher range but most of them are a more traditional flex from what i have seen... i like one or two stick out of each rod maker because i like a feel too em! but hands down loop in my eyes rocks all else! they were the only manufacturer i wanted too rep! and im stoked a flyshop finally picked em up!!!!!!!! some people like sage. loomis, tfo etc.. but they obviously havnt stepped up n posted so why give a f*ck what others think? have u cast any loops? they are the worlds best kept secret!