Wolfie

is it now my understanding that ppl here in this forum can only recommend the products that come from the sponsors of this forum......because that is not good business to any sponsor, although I know that sometimes what is good for the goose..isn't always good for the gander............Wolfie

sent u a pm............Wolfie

say...friend...are you that Andy I met down at the Highwood, a weeks ago?.................Wolfie

sounds like you have a knack for attracting "furry things between your legs"...........................Wolfie

Ahh...pure semantics my dear Watson..........there was no sale pitch involved, I just picked up the rod felt the action [fast] then saw the power as I flicked it..that was it...I'm very fussy when it comes to things for me..but I know when things are good..............Wolfie ...so you going to get the last one for ur self?

quite true...but m8..u go and buy that in 1/2" pieces and then you tell me that the cost is not the same as T A cork..plus, if you fish in rain, as in BC, or else where, this type of cork doesn't let your hand slip...................Wolfie

Maxwell..just the feel of the rod yesterday in my hand 'told' me that the 6wt Rio Gold I bought for my secret weapon would work well with it...I'm from the "old" school my young friend that taught me when a rod states a certain line wt..you can use one up [as in a weight forward] or you can use [one down as a wt forward], in this case a 4wt forward and a 6wt forward, plus of course the two standard wts for this rod..5wt. ..I'd like to try a spey line on it to see how she would preform, but the spey style of casting I thought jayhad was referring to, so I was right, great, when I'm out in the field and no one is around , I throw out some single hand casts..that way no one can see me strangling myself.....................Wolfie

Mmm..fresh Atlantic..but fiddle heads..now you made me jealous...did you add lemon juice and butter to the heads?....OH ya...great salmon and beautiful pics ..................Wolfie

that is exactly what line I'm putting on it..mine is gold wt 6..should go like a bullet, and you say, you are using it as you would a spey rod...that is a bonus for sure..maybe I'll write to the manufacture and ask if they have a special add on but for it ..hmm..the one that has an extendable metal arm that is pulled out of the end of the reel seat...............Wolfie

Well then...I bought it at SouthBow..Dave served me...a real nice store it looks like it is on the way..I wish him luck..and did any of you see that huge map of the Bow he put up on the wall..it is not finished Dave said cause he will put on it just the regular everyday spots like ..fish creek..policeman flatts..Mackinnon flatts and Carsland Dam for sure...................... ..I'm glad you liked it Jayhad..I was impressed cause I enjoy a fast tip on my rods..actually the faster the better, not only for the performance of the rod but the power it has for the kill!.....my CP rods are like that..............Wolfie

well....you all know I was in the market again cause of my experience on Monday of this week past..so after listening to several ppl, I drove down to the new shop in town, [and because I don't know if I can put their name on this board, I'll leave it off]..anyway, what I bought for a really great price [thanks Doc..as well as Maxwell..for ur input, I bought a Loop..9',5wt, the Trout Bum..and I also called BP to check on their price...Man I tell you I save $200.00 cause it only cost me $250.00..and boy was I lucky..there were only 2 left..now there is but One! ..so tomorrow..it is Cherry Picken Time...was really impressed with the triple A cork handle plus the colour of the blank with the corresponding reel seat...quite classy I might add...................Wolfie

yes that is what crossed my mind after reading your thing with Sage...and yes..I got the 'hint'..was going there in a few minutes..so I'll close down now...PS:..if you want to meet..You'll have a chance to meet up with my Wolf..ask Toolman how he likes her..............cya m8........Wolfie

...who cares where it came from..It was just great to see a fish taken over 24" and not with a skinny belly...looks good on you m8..lake or stockie..makes no never mind!.........Wolfie

Bet you, that your legs were shaking after a beauty like that....Eh!..............Wolfie

Everybody saying the same thing but different words....SO..what camera are u using m8..Awesome pics!.................Wolfie

you should ask one of ur friends to ship you a live one m8..boy what a conversation piece that would make with the "Ladies".............................Wolfie

Before I separate my comments to the both of you, I wanted to state that both..have said what I'm sure the rest of us have felt..I like to get my $$$$'s worth , and so yes I shop the big boxes..that's why they are in the business..they buy large quantities , sell for cheaper than the little guys..BUT..I'll tell you this..if that big box doesn't have the staff that shows not only an interest in me, or is willing to share their knowledge..I'm GONE..and that's that! And so far I've been to every shop in Calgary with the exception of two...Fishing hole and the new one everyone has been talking about..South Bow..but that one I will. bhurt.. ..boy they certainly gave you the run a round..Eh!, well I hope you get ur rod back with a new piece, or better still an "Upgrade", now that would be nice...huh! mikefromsundre.. ....exactly what bhurt said.."you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover", If whatever store you shop in for what our demands, those places should have staff that is "PPL MINDED" and "product knowledgeable"..if not take your hard earn $$$$ to a place that will show u the time of day................Wolfie

BBT..as a matter of fact i ordered 3 sizes but straight out of China..which will cost me $60.00 for all three and NO shipping charges cause my neighbor is bringing them back for me...[El Cheapo] that I am... mikefromsundre... ..my problem is m8 all of my kids rods are mine to begin with, I don't give them to them anymore since my oldest broke a 12.5' Loomis on a damn Chinook, years back..horse playing a big silver............Wolfie

ya ya.....but m8..would you call that .."Murphy's Law?"......................................Wolfie

bhurt... ..some super points you have brought out, and I don't think that you are disagreeing with me but explaining a completely different side of things which is good because it brings more light to the convo. ..take this for example: ..just from what I've heard, in various shops, be it the little guys or the big box..it is the highlight of their sale pitch.."if you break it you can be fishing again within a day since their CANADIAN DISTRIBUTOR is located here in Calgary" so many times I've heard this, and I'll state right now , for a rod that "so I was told" is assembled in either Taiwan or China, the action is quite good, BUT..is it pure graphite or composite..OK, for the inexpensive cost side, yes it maybe a good rod , as you said for the beginner..where as that person can if the situation did arise , go directly to SpringBrook and pay a bit of $$$$ for a replacement part or entire rod.. .. ..with this statement , u think I don't know that ppl who have several rods of the top line and the not so top would have the tendency to abuse the low end...hardly because I can not judge everyone , only myself..and here is an example of me..I own some very expensive material goods..and not so, but like you they are treated the same because they are mine!..yet my boys are the opposite to me, only cause again $$$$ talks..therefore if something happens to anything of theirs..they just replace it..so in reality, ppl in general the percentage is 50/50..don't you agree.. ..the bit about ur broken tip from Sage, hmm, who is to say that one of them [shippers/packers of Sage] didn't break it or put in a broken tip to begin with..or as you stated below, the person who read ur mail, or listened to u while you explained urself had made up their mind not to believe you..there are a lot of factors involved, but if you put out good $$$$ to get a new part, then m8..I'd be talking with management about this second situation. ..just one more I'll respond to, and this is it..: ..first off, the rod was a 4 piece..and has it's own tube, which I'm sure when rods are shipped to the distributor or retail store , they are always in their tubes for that very reason.."disrespect for other ppl's property"..EX: shipping and handling.. and I had stated that because it came from one of their stores, it may have been on display because it was the last one the big box had...thus it was in the hands of "fate"..and my dermis... ..Oh ya..the old saying is "you can catch more flies with "honey", then with vinegar...as so talking nice to ppl will come up always with a proper situation in the end...................................................Wolfie

see can go one more step beyond that Jack..from what I've seen and heard the TFO line is the 'average' price line of the graphite's, and yours among quite a few more are the "above average" price range and quality of product.. and so a buyer of any of ur's or the rest, Will take pride in what they are using and will take extra care in the handling..however..TFO has set the presidence by asking a minimal extra fee for replacements, thus making it harder for you to build a better , stronger warranty, catering to those who have "respect" for what their $$$$ can buy..............Wolfie

bhurt..well things have changed tremendously since I was in the business that is for sure, and reading ur example , I can understand the need for the manufacturer to put a charge on either the replacement part or replacing with a whole rod..but you see..It was part of our job back then to deal with the customer in regards to damaged products and believe me, I've seen many scams pulled as well...I only used TFO as a prime example because it is here in Calgary, which gives easy access to everyone to just buy one of those rods, abuse the crap out of them , pay a few more bucks , get another one and away you can go...get my point now? ..jayjj11..I guess from ur comment you assumed I was talking about an actual incident, whereas I was giving an example as if it could/did take place...but it was said to give strength to the following statement after that..ppl who own/run big boxes, has the advantage over the small shops and that is a given..and I know ppl try and take advantage of any situation, just to get something for free..it is in our make up..not everyone but enough of us..and I understand that things had to change, because both the retailer and the manufacture was taking a beating do to excessive damage of their products... ..as to my personal incident..being a rod builder for 17 years, back in the province of Ontario, I'm totally qualified to asset the fact that it was either a defect caused by ..the manufacture or more than likely as I told the manager in charge that it was due to a customer, considering it was on display in another store. ..one only waxes the male tips if it requires it, and in my case, that was not the case..there was a hair line crack on the male part..caused by a whack of some kind, abuse to the rod.................Wolfie

Well Jack, you are right in a lot of points...big boxes..$$$$ talks, that's a given, but how many of us puts them in their place..probably not to many. As far as the small more personal shops are concern, I , personally have to lean towards them, because ..in my case of choice, the shop is not pushy, willing to share not only conditions but product knowledge even at the expense of time [which we all now doesn't come cheap these days], but most of all if they do not have the item u want..they'll refer u to whatever place that does.. ..and yes..TFO..has built up their rep just by that...offering for an extra fee ..either a replacement section or a whole complete rod..well that is all good for everyone...well not so..ME..because of my years of experience, it doesn't sit well...and here is my Opinion.. ..U buy a rod..cost is $200.00..not the top but top for ur hard earn dollar.. ..something happens to it and you believe it is not ur fault for you are always careful of ur toy.. ..u take it back to TFO and they say :for $25.00 they will either replace the section or give u a newer rod if u choice to upgrade.. ..but NO..the break was manufacturer's defect, the rod blank had a weak spot in it..why should you "pay" more money when it is NOT ur fault... ..................that is my point..they should have someone there who can make that type of decisions at the warehouse...................Wolfie

boy that is some talent that guy has ...fly tier extraordinaire for damn sure ..and so much detail..........Wolfie

..grrr...you cheated......got it off the same site I did............Wolfie