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It won't stand a pressure test but It will be totally welded shut

And in keeping with Don's hijack here's what I came up with. Need's about 3 lbs of wheel weights to bring it up to 12lbs and the top welded on. May get it powder coated, I got some other stuff I built headed for the coaters anyway

If you check back it's Don that started the derail.... besides one of the signs of curmudgeonry is a wanderin' mind........................... ???? Now where was I ??????

And a pretty decent derail from Don's original cranky old farts thread.....

Then there's this

Oh yeah, Mike's a smartass..

That ain't mine, that's a robbed pic of a 30lber that Outcast sells, you girls have trouble with the word Similar ? Mine should be roughly 6" wide chunk of 4"(?) drill stem with the wheel weights to bring it up to 10-12 lbs, the ends welded shut with 1/4" plate and 10 pieces of 3/4" solid rod welded on for star arms, Don't know if I want the tie off point in the middle of the anchor like above or on the end. I'm fatter than Don and catch more wind.

I got a lead 5lber I made but I've been blown around in my super fatcat, Just making a heavier one that'll dig in. Similar to this

Nope, too uninspired to chop any hole let alone one big enough to float a pontoon. Playin' with the Scotties and buildin' my version of a star anchor will do for now. Drill stem and 3/4 inch rod for the arms and stuff'r full of wheel weights, 8-10lb should be enough no?

Don't know nothin' about no blue pills but maybe the odd yellow one now and then...... And I thought a Grass Master woulda known that a prick is a transcended curmudgeon.. you know, existence on a higher plain if you will.

I am not a curmudgeon I'm a prick. It says so <<<<<< there <<<<<< over top my avatar pic

For whatever reason the utube link doesn't show in the original post but it does in the reply quote box. WTH??

And here all this time I thought you more resembled the east end of a west bound equine...

Must come from the lack of opposing fins http://passherald.ca/archives/150121/index4.htm

Don, the winter show is a maybe at this point. And fissin'? Every time it warms up and I'm caught up it seems the wind is howlin'. I was dreamin' up a apache/gila/lahontan expedition but I decided to invest in a duramax crate motor instead........................ next year. Maybe there hope yet, I just received an email from Google Great Britain informin' me that I'm one of 12 winners of 650,000GBP. All I have to do is send my bankin' info to their promotions' department. osprey, Yes I remember that day well. Glad I didn't turn around at the sight of the white caps. It was day I decided that friggin' lakes weren't all that bad. I know what you mean about changes, I've been spending time behind The Gap since 1968 but then again it can be a lot of perspective too. Andy Russell pulled his guided hunts out of that country in the 40's because it was getting to settled and the access way too easy.

Osprey I remember now. Sorry about that but in my defence it seems anymore I forget why I walked to the other side of the room whilst I'm crossing the room. Don... there ain't no damn way I gonna start arguin' with a ****in' pretend fish. And finally I ain't in the mood to get into a "discussion" about the pros and cons of logging, prescribed burns, livestock grazing and it's effects on riparian areas. Tired of the same BS ad nauseam

No Don that's not quite right. I'll spend plenty of time arguing and discussing with a Don Andersen, a Rickr, a Smitty or even a BobLoblaw or BBT but I'll be gawdamned if I'll spend it with some faceless online handle hiding behind the anmoninity of the internet. Call me old ****in' school.

50KPH on the FTR?? Christ that don't happen much...hope like hell at least you'll get a picture.

aha yup 'n bye

Could be but your and my lifetime is still only temporary. I'm talkin' about it's anti harvesting agenda. Mature trees are not only plant matter in the forests, grass, brush and younger trees holds silt in place as well. IIRC roads and unauthorized trails are the biggest contributor to in-stream silting. Star Creek is a UofA research project. To me research leads to better knowledge and understanding, better knowledge and understanding leads to better industry practices

Tell me something Osprey, is modern timber harvesting deforestation or temporary cover loss?

Whatever Hoss but just show me the science first not just some claim that it's "obvious"

And yes I'm a prick for givin' poor old winnie a hard time but I highly dislike a doubly anonymous eco-wienie willing to hijack a worthy cause, be it native fish or grizzlies to further advance what they are really protesting against. Grow a spine and be up front about it!

In a Guy Fawkes mask yet too.......

BullshitFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This article is about the expletive. For other uses, see Bullshit (disambiguation). Look up bullshit in Wiktionary, the free dictionary. Bullshit (also bullcrap) is a common English expletive which may be shortened to the euphemism bull or the initialism BS. In British English, "bollocks" is a comparable expletive, although "bullshit" is more common. It is a slang profanity term meaning "nonsense", especially in a rebuking response to communication or actions viewed as deceiving, misleading, disingenuous, or false. As with many expletives, the term can be used as an interjection or as many other parts of speech, and can carry a wide variety of meanings. It can be used either as a noun or as a verb. While the word is generally used in a deprecating sense, it may imply a measure of respect for language skills, or frivolity, among various other benign usages. In philosophy, Harry Frankfurt, among others, analyzed the concept of bullshit as related to but distinct from lying. Outside of the philosophical and discursive studies, the everyday phrase bullshit conveys a measure of dissatisfaction with something or someone, but often does not describe any role of truth in the matter. Contents 1 Etymology 2 In the philosophy of truth and rhetoric 2.1 Assertions of fact2.1.1 Distinguished from lying 2.2 Harry Frankfurt's concept 3 In everyday language 4 See also 5 References 5.1 Notes 5.2 Bibliography Etymology"Bull", meaning nonsense, dates from the 17th century,[1] while the term "bullshit" has been used as early as 1915 in American slang,[2] and came into popular usage only during World War II. The word "bull" itself may have derived from the Old French boul meaning "fraud, deceit".[2] The term "horseshit" is a near synonym. The South African English equivalent is "bull dust". Few corresponding terms exist in other languages; one prominent example, however, is German Bockmist, literally "billy-goat *hit". The earliest attestation mentioned by the Concise Oxford English Dictionary is in fact T. S. Eliot, who between 1910 and 1916 wrote an early poem to which he gave the title "The Triumph of Bullshit", written in the form of a ballade. The word bullshit does not appear in the text of the poem, and Eliot himself never published the poem.[3] As to earlier etymology the Oxford English Dictionary cites bull with the meaning "trivial, insincere, untruthful talk or writing, nonsense". It describes this usage as being of unknown origin, but notes that in Old French, the word could mean "boul, boule, bole fraud, deceit, trickery; mod. Icel bull 'nonsense'; also ME bull BUL 'falsehood', and BULL verb, to befool, mock, cheat."[4] Although there is no confirmed etymological connection, it should be noted that these older meanings are synonymous with the modern expression "bull", generally considered and used as a contraction of "bullshit" Another proposal, according to the lexicographer Eric Partridge, is that the term was popularised by the Australian and New Zealand troops from about 1916 arriving at the front during World War I. Partridge claims that the British commanding officers' placed emphasis on bull; that is, attention to appearances, even when it was a hindrance to waging war. The foreign Diggers allegedly ridiculed the British by calling it bull*hit.[5] In the philosophy of truth and rhetoric Assertions of factBullshit is commonly used to describe statements made by people more concerned with the response of the audience than in truth and accuracy, such as goal-oriented statements made in the field of politics or advertising. On one prominent occasion, the word itself was part of a controversial advertisement. During the 1980 U.S. presidential campaign, the Citizens Party candidate Barry Commoner ran a radio advertisement that began with an actor exclaiming: "Bullshit! Carter, Reagan and Anderson, it's all bullshit!" NBC refused to run the advertisement because of its use of the expletive, but Commoner's campaign successfully appealed to the Federal Communications Commission to allow the advertisement to run unedited.[6] Distinguished from lying"Bullshit" does not necessarily have to be a complete fabrication; with only basic knowledge about a topic, bullshit is often used to make the audience believe that one knows far more about the topic by feigning total certainty or making probable predictions. It may also merely be "filler" or nonsense that, by virtue of its style or wording, gives the impression that it actually means something. In his essay on the subject, William G. Perry called bull[*hit] "relevancies, however relevant, without data" and gave a definition of the verb "to bull[*hit]" as follows: To discourse upon the contexts, frames of reference and points of observation which would determine the origin, nature, and meaning of data if one had any. To present evidence of an understanding of form in the hope that the reader may be deceived into supposing a familiarity with content.[7] The bullshitter generally either knows the statements are likely false, exaggerated, and in other ways misleading or has no interest in their factual accuracy one way or the other. "Talking bullshit" is thus a lesser form of lying, and is likely to elicit a correspondingly weaker emotional response: whereas an obvious liar may be greeted with derision, outrage, or anger, an exponent of bullshit tends to be dismissed with an indifferent sneer. Harry Frankfurt's conceptIn his essay On Bullshit (originally written in 1986, and published as a monograph in 2005), philosopher Harry Frankfurt of Princeton University characterizes bullshit as a form of falsehood distinct from lying. The liar, Frankfurt holds, knows and cares about the truth, but deliberately sets out to mislead instead of telling the truth. The "bullshitter", on the other hand, does not care about the truth and is only seeking to impress:[8] It is impossible for someone to lie unless he thinks he knows the truth. Producing bullshit requires no such conviction. A person who lies is thereby responding to the truth, and he is to that extent respectful of it. When an honest man speaks, he says only what he believes to be true; and for the liar, it is correspondingly indispensable that he considers his statements to be false. For the bullshitter, however, all these bets are off: he is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false. His eye is not on the facts at all, as the eyes of the honest man and of the liar are, except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says. He does not care whether the things he says describe reality correctly. He just picks them out, or makes them up, to suit his purpose. Frankfurt connects this analysis of bullshit with Ludwig Wittgenstein's disdain of "non-sense" talk, and with the popular concept of a "bull session" in which speakers may try out unusual views without commitment. He fixes the blame for the prevalence of "bullshit" in modern society upon anti-realism and upon the growing frequency of situations in which people are expected to speak or have opinions without appropriate knowledge of the subject matter. Gerald Cohen, in "Deeper into Bullshit", contrasted the kind of "bullshit" Frankfurt describes with a different sort: nonsense discourse presented as sense. Cohen points out that this sort of bullshit can be produced either accidentally or deliberately. While some writers do deliberately produce bullshit, a person can also aim at sense and produce nonsense by mistake; or a person deceived by a piece of bullshit can repeat it innocently, without intent to deceive others.[9] Cohen gives the example of Alan Sokal's "Transgressing the Boundaries" as a piece of deliberate bullshit. Sokal's aim in creating it, however, was to show that the "postmodernist" editors who accepted his paper for publication could not distinguish nonsense from sense, and thereby by implication that their field was "bullshit". In everyday languageOutside of the academic world, among natural speakers of North American English, as an interjection or adjective, bullshit conveys general displeasure, an objection to, or points to unfairness within, some state of affairs. This colloquial usage of "bullshit", which began in this 20th century, does not assign a truth score to another's discourse. It simply labels something that the speaker does not like and feels he is unable to change. See also Wikiquote has quotations related to: Bullshit Confabulation Humbug Tall tale Not even wrong Waffle (speech) Bullshit bingo References Notes Concise Oxford English Dictionary "Online Etymology Dictionary". Etymonline.com. Retrieved 2011-11-12. Eliot, T. S. Inventions of the March Hare: Poems 1909-1917 (Harcourt, 1997) ISBN 0-15-100274-6 Mark Liberman (2005-08-17). "Bullshit: invented by T.S. Eliot in 1910?". Language Log. Peter Hartcher (2012-11-06). "US looks Down Under to stop poll rot". Sydney Morning Herald. Retrieved 2013-11-05. Paul Siegel (2007). Communication Law in America. Paul Siegel. pp. 507–508. ISBN 0-7425-5387-6. Perry, William G. (1967). Examsmanship and the Liberal Arts. Originally published in Harvard College: A Collection of Essays by Members of the Harvard Faculty. "Harry Frankfurt on bullshit". Archived from the original on 2005-03-08. Retrieved 2013-11-05. Cohen, G. A., "Deeper into Bullshit". Originally appeared in Buss and Overton, eds., Contours of Agency: Themes from the Philosophy of Harry Frankfurt (Cambridge, Massachusetts: MIT Press, 2002). Reprinted in Hardcastle and Reich, Bullshit and Philosophy (Chicago: Open Court, 2006), ISBN 0-8126-9611-5. BibliographyEliot, T. S. Inventions of the March Hare: Poems 1909-1917 (Harcourt, 1997) ISBN 0-15-100274-6 Frankfurt, Harry G. (2005). On Bullshit. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press. ISBN 0-691-12294-6. — Harry Frankfurt's detailed analysis of the concept of bullshit. Hardcastle, Gary L.; Reisch, George A., eds. (2006). Bullshit and Philosophy. Chicago: Open Court (Carus Publishing). ISBN 0-8126-9611-5. Holt, Jim, Say Anything, one of his Critic At Large essays from The New Yorker, (August 22, 2005) Penny, Laura (2005). Your Call Is Important To Us: The Truth About Bullshit. Random House. ISBN 1-4000-8103-3. — Halifax academic Laura Penny's study of the phenomenon of bullshit and its impact on modern society. Weingartner, C. (1975). Public doublespeak: every little movement has a meaning all of its own. College English, Vol. 37, No. 1 (Sep., 1975), pp. 54–61. Categories:Profanity Feces Interjections Deception