duanec

agreed...still a mystery to me why there aren't more refineries up here...but don't think ft mc. is the right answer...shipping/piping refined fuel vs. the raw material is even more of an issue? don't know. i'm not very smart compared to those big oil execs. like you trying to become educated and develop an informed opinion that balances economics & growth while thinking of the long term/bigger picture, the environment and the world my kids get to inherit. because of the costs involved and the risk to people and property i think is the short answer. very good point.

vote...as in fill out the survey? i think things like this are an inevitability. cash is king. the big players will eventually see enough profit forecasts that it will happen. we are not using it all here...it's got to go somehwere somehow someway, because it's cash sitting in the ground. that's the facts. so the developers will look for the least expensive solution vetted against the lowest risk profile. things are considered like regulatory process, permitting, public/political reaction or pressures. environmental impacts. as well as things like access to established infrastructure. demands sometimes are made to engineer out more risk, but then it becomes less attractive cost wise. so it goes another way. but go it will. personally i do hope there's enough opposition that it moves. i'm not a fan of the thought of a spill [another inevitability] in such a sensitive area. i wonder what the environmental big picture numbers look like if you trucked/train that amount of product to the coast vs a pipe. greater/lesser impact on the environment/spill risk? better or worse? don't know. there was the rail spill at wabamun recently and not too long ago that one that dumped some chemical in a river in bc and wiped it out. if there is an actual vote, i will excercise my rights as such. i guess a survey is something the politicians will use to gauge how they swing, but when jobs are created and people can feed thier kids and buy big toys and taxes stay low, that's pretty popular too.

sign me up, tnx

airwolf

learned everything i know about physics fun from dr. julius sumner-miller.

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how about just the rum?

i bought 2 tix to the screening of the flyfishfilm thing tonight and have to bail. if you can use 'em, gimme a shout/shoot me a text.

i would second rod holders, an outboard jet and a giant umbrella.

steelhead are cool. awesome. i've done it a few times, guided. i have contracted the fever. i get why people pursue them in the shittiest weather and sleep on rocks and the in back of trucks [i'm not quite there yet]. my last trip, we hooked and landed on swung intruders, dries, and a swung nymph. made me wonder about using a more traditional nymphing set up. i was curious to try it, however, i can't say that it'd be the most effective way to fish for me, based on where you are...maybe one run we fished out of them all i could've effectivly cast/presented a dead drifted nymph. in the end didn't get the opportunity to explore that...we stuck with the guides program, and we caught fish. don't know if a dead drifted something would've made them more interested in a take. i suspected not...they seemed to like movement and some action. was a curiousity thing. the 'traditions' associated with any type of fishing will continue to evolve i suspect...i know that there are some who think it's blasphemy to throw a tube fly, or intruder. i got *hit on once [seriously] for not having a spey rod. wtf. i get the tug is the drug. i've gotten way better at the swung presentation. i now completely understand why a 2 hander would be a good choice, and i'm gonna get me one. but guys who cast singlehanded and do it well got game. i have also done the pencil lead gig, and centerpinning, or whatever the heck that is. not my scene. but yes does seem to be more effective. we caught quite a few. but i found that to be very much a case of diminishing returns. each to his own...why haters gotta hate? i'd rather throw flies. i'd rather fight one on my flyrod as opposed to on 10 on gear. don't know how it'd feel to catch them on a nymph. would it work any better or worse? no idea. was curious to see. doesn't seem to be very popular so there's not a lot of info on that i could find. i stuck with what i got taught, how i got schooled by the guides i have used. for me, for the fish of 1000 casts, the tug is indeed the drug. or now, as of this last trip...that huge head sucking down that basketball-sized skated fly - that shakes you up really bad. like it gets into your head, like right into your brain... *hit, now i have to go back again...like rfn. thought i had it out of me for a year... when do we leave?

fantastic!

holy carp. read this and few other recent posts. is it january already? just sayin' carry on

i know. i am such a sucker. nice feesh mang

no, into practicing a little common sense & courtesy out there on the water, just sayin'

this subject is winner of the least read/most often ignored topic ever posted on ffc.

glad you guys had a good day, you guys did well even though the fishing conditions could have been a little better and my river knowledge was a little stale!

correct. the 'dry floodplain' can also suddenly become a very active river during a rain or storm event. the river is not far below the surface...there have been occasions where people have become stranded. the other structure mentioned is a 'throttle' that limits the amount of diverted water that can flow into minnewanka during runoff or a storm, redirecting the overflow down the old channel.

yes nice work i have been showing it off and lots of ppl have expressed interest. maybe i should have some spare copies on hand...sell them riverside. slight mark-up.

wow, read this thread last night and then today saw my very first otter in alberta upstream at bearspaw. someone transplant one near me today?

transalta newsroom - spray update a link with some information that may be useful.

yes, it is open. just be aware that there is some additional truck traffic due to the construction work.