birchy Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 Lets see: Fish catching ability, small check Casting: sucks Ability to even know what half those casts are: sucks Line control: sucks High sticking: sucks Swing presentation skills: sucks Czech Nymphing: sucks. Dry fly, really, really sucks Whats a loop? That's one of those trailing things, isn't it? If so, I'm ok at that. If not, sucks. But what the hell, LS is roasting weenies. I'm still in. Great! It's not just me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdB Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Lets see: Fish catching ability, small check Casting: sucks Ability to even know what half those casts are: sucks Line control: sucks High sticking: sucks Swing presentation skills: sucks Czech Nymphing: sucks. Dry fly, really, really sucks Whats a loop? That's one of those trailing things, isn't it? If so, I'm ok at that. If not, sucks. But what the hell, LS is roasting weenies. I'm still in. BIG YELLOW STICK....CHECK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birchy Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 I think one of the fun skill tests we should do is have someone stand out at a certain distance holding out a hula-hoop at arms length.. you then have to cast your loop through the hula-hoop. Saw it on "Lessons with Lefty".. looks like fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonefisher Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 realistically if I think a day with demos by an experienced caster of all those things and maybe a few small competitons covering accuracy at distance's and a straight distance comp would be feasible..... If you wanted a competiton (and a decent one) for all those things in 1 day I would love to see the logistics not just for time but judging as well. I'm not sure its even healthy to judge peoples fishing techniques...... if you wanna do that make it a 1 day fishing event and let the fish be the judge. Distance and accuracy are 2 measurable challenges and I think thats the reason you are more likely to see contests for them then you are to see contests for upstream nymphing the best judge of technique is gonna be the fish..... I don't mean to be negative at all.... just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladystrange Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 i will roast your weenie for you rickr, no worries LOL i've been fly fishing for 16 years ish but only seriously for 6 and i didnt know what half the casts were. well, i know, just cant exactly do, shall we say. and i'm staying out of the nymphing. dry flies, small stream, i'm all over that. dustin, if we get this camping weekend in the castle area next summer, i'm going to take you up the gardner, there was a really big bull under a really tight over hanging willow in 1ft of water, 3ft from open water current, as close to the bank as you can get. we drifted dries past his nose that just werent quite close enough and chucked streamers to piss him off and nothing. if he comes back, i'd like to invite you to give it a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolman Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I think it is easy to judge someones nymph presentation, including mending abilities, casting etc. in a real fishing environment, separate from just casting evaluations, which will also be included and likely based on FFF basic instructional guidelines. So the real deal, within reach for these guys and the solid fundamentals of fly fishing. Streamer casting/presentation with a couple of different retrieves, one strip and another a continuous motion retreival at uniform speed. Dry fly casting on the water into a ring target at set distances. That kind of thing. We can try and keep it fun and practical as well. I'm sure we can find a couple of judges with the knowledge and experience to give a good evalutation and a few helpfull tips to all participants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbadbrent Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Sure Brent, let's do that. But, we will use our left hands (non-dominant casting hand)....my right elbow is shot to hell. I'll take you on at the Competitons in March, after my Rookie Team shames you "young guns"....grin As my post in the spey forum, my left arm is ruined...my shoulder is useless, so there is no hauling, infact, not much MOVING of that arm without problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevesr1 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Hey Dustin, I didn't see any of this post giving you a hard time. As one of the outspoken 1st years, I actually thought your original comment was pretty funny. As far as the contest part of this goes, I'm all for it. I can guarantee anyone watching me try most of that stuff will get a great laugh out of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladystrange Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 it will be an excellent opertunity to learn for everyone and from everyone. i'm sure we all have our strong points as well as our weeknesses, like bum arms/shoulders/backs/necks/bums/legs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbadbrent Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 But i'm down for this for sure, march sounds great. I'll even get the day off if i have to, make it an noon competition, then fishing together after... I agree with Lonefisher though, casting ability is all perspective....fish are the real judge Guess i gotta get my Z-axis before hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladystrange Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 maybe we should have an oldtimers team, those who have been fly fishing for over 30 years. let them show us how it is really done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbadbrent Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 That'd be awesome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birchy Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevesr1 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 maybe we should have an oldtimers team, those who have been fly fishing for over 30 years. let them show us how it is really done. Now I'm really confused as to what category I'm in: I would say I'm in Hawg's level 3 I'm an oldtimer in age, a newbie in experience I have a pretty nice bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladystrange Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 you would be in the 1st years, then there are the young guns - max, brent etc who have more than 1 yr and less than 30, being that they are only 20 ish and the oldtimers for those who have more than 30 years of fly fishing experience. they might not have all the casts or shoot the longest or the straights lines, but sure as hell, they'll cheat well enough to catch the most fish because they've been doing it longer i want to learn the cheating part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonefisher Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Toolman I know what you mean certain things will be judgeable. It sounds like fun I would just say its likely best if kept relatively simple and fun.......it sounded kinda hardcore at first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolman Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I guess it sounded a bit hardcore, but it was to make a point that fishing success usually comes with learning these fundamental skills, and working at it, to improve. I like the spirit shown by the Rookies. They sound like they're up for the challenge and willing to put aside a little time to have some fun and work on it. So am I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbadbrent Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Give me a list of stuff we gotta do, the young gun's will be ready... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolman Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Give me a list of stuff we gotta do, the young gun's will be ready... That's the spirit. I will consult with a few folks to get some input for a list of challenges to cover the fundamentals. Any one is welcome to add suggestions, comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbadbrent Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 3 - size 2/0 wire worms tossed on a 3 weight....first to hit themselves drops out haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Din Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 who can pick up the most ladies at southland while fishing....think us young guns will win there.... in all seriousness this would be awesome to partake in and be able to meet many of the board members! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbadbrent Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 K so mitch is in, Still waiting to hear from a few ppl..let me know guys.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawgstoppah Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I'll captain the Old Vets team. Need 5 flyfishers who have been on the Bow for a while... let's say... fished it for 10 or more years. We should make this a "clave". July sometime. I'll book it off work now if we do. We could book the group use area at Carseland.. and all camp and have fun. Make it for about 2-3 days. I'll bring the weinies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parry Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 im in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeler Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 That's the spirit. I will consult with a few folks to get some input for a list of challenges to cover the fundamentals. Any one is welcome to add suggestions, comments. How about some real Alberta challenges then! -Most fish caught and landed while holding a Tim's in one hand -Successfully fishing the city portion of the Elbow on a hot long weekend. Bonus points for bikinis. -200 yard pontoon boat rescue dash -Nailing a poacher with a jar of eggs from 30 yards -grand theft auto using a flyrod If flyfishing was all about casting, would we still do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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