red wire on a hook size 6or 8 will slay em.. ive tied em with a few dozen different materials and they all work teh same... might aswell have the weight with some large red wire.. if you want to actually tie somethign tho floss, vinyl rib, dubbing, marabou, chenille, crystal flash, flashabou, larvae lace, vinyl sheet or anything else u can find in red will do too!