DonAndersen

Bc, without a doubt, the Alberta Fish and Game assoc. will be the most vocal in opposition. Warched thier opposition to a idea proposed by Provincial Bios. to have a surcharge to fishing licenses to clean out illegally stocked perch. They went on for over an hour talking about how people would have to eat dog food. F.....king idiots. Don

No license - no fishy. Fine ‘em! Don

Folks, Been running by anglers are Beaver Lake Brian’s concept of a Areated Permit and what it should cost. All have been in agreement with suggestions of $50>100/year The issue is some lakes which are areated as NOT quality lakes with kill limits and general regulation. Are the people who fish them also going to need a permit? And what about the lakes with a upper size limit like Police. Lots of questions - few answers. Don

Was there very large browns in there. Don

Nope, haven’t been their in years since I did a project of increasing water quality by the use of milled barley. I have no idea if the fish are all gone. Don

Wow. Every fish removed. one has to wonder how. Don

Taco, could you send me a email with the errors. regards, Don

Yes, both stock fish. Why the ACA does it I haven't a clue. Don

Folks, Those that fish trout lakes may find this discussion interesting. http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?p=3840271#post3840271 Don

Tom Daniels, Public Relations of Sundre Forest Products [SFP] sent me this message today. As a reminder we have been putting one Mountain Pine Beetle bait site in every township within our Forest Management Area [FMA] since 2007. Baits are hung on three pine trees in a triangle formation. The intent is that if there is an overflight of beetle that we will be able to detect beetles as they might get attracted to the pheromone in the baits. This would then help SFP to assess whether we did get an inflight and hopefully the extent of the flight so that SFP can develop an action plan. The baits are deployed in June and about 50% of the sites are visited ½ way through the summer (August) and then the baits are pulled down usually later in September or early October. Earlier in August Keith Branter of SFP visited our bait sites north of hwy 11 since that is the most likely place we might see beetle due to proximity to Hinton and Jasper which are both in full infestation mode. Well I hate to say that SFP fears were founded. It would appear that the FMA was hit with a flight of beetles. As I have said to some folks we are raising the red flag but not sounding the siren just yet as it is early to determine how severe the flight was. The bait trees were mass attacked, but there was little evidence of beetle in non-bait trees which is a bit curious. This info is preliminary prior to starting to do a more detailed investigation. With that said there are reports along the hwy 16 corridor of an other inflight or possibly the same inflight, but over a very large area. Any way you slice it this is not good news. In the meantime I would request that everyone remain vigilant in looking for evidence of beetle and to report any location of pitch tubes, red trees or other. Those can be reported to Tom Daniels of SFP at 403-638-6211. or to Pam Melnick who is the Forest Health Officer for Alberta Agriculture and Forestry based out of Rocky. Thanks Tom

Looks like they are learning from the local Loons. Don

Debarb hook when tying or watchong sports Don

Here I thought the subject was about guys as old as me. Don

Smithy, i ain't looking for an attitude change. I want a behaviour change. And frankly, I give a crap what it takes. Fines or jail suit me just fine. i'm long past sitting on my ass watching my province get destroyed. Don

i had hoped that the Squatters and OHV abusers had finally seen the light and realized the abuse cannot continue. But SIGH, looks like the abusers will take the day. Don

Here ya go: http://aep.alberta.ca/recreation-public-use/recreation-on-public-land/public-land-use-zones/livingstone-pluz.aspx http://aep.alberta.ca/recreation-public-use/recreation-on-public-land/public-land-use-zones/

Anybody miss the good Old Days when all campground water was OK to drink. No testing was a Ralphie save some bucks idea. Don

Quad operations, from what I gathered at the kiosk, was they were limited to established trails. Some squatter camps still exist. But there are a lot less od them. Don

Folks, i've fished the Oldman River for something over 50 years and watched the changes. From the constant signs of land destruction, the loving sounds of quads and dirt bikes, from the villages of squatters things have changed big time. Damn but am I impressed. Only took a couple of years to change. Was it hard, must have been. Only took 50 years. Big trouble for where I live though. The herd will go somewhere. Don

Folks, Last Saturday a friend and I headed to the Coleman for needed supplies. We got replenished and headed to the Crow heading down to below the Highway #3 bridge. Damn but things were good, not only some decent fish but saskatoons everywhere and there is nothing better than saskatoons. So I went grazing working my way upstream. I wasn't grazing quite as fast as my friend who fished. Looking up,I realized he was 200 yards ahead of me. So I hurried, tripping over some bent branches, falling face first into some wood. One piece Impaled me into the palm of my hand. Tough looking at a 1/2" wood stick in your palm. So off to the hospital for an inspection and three stitches. Luckily, it was my right hand, not my casting hand. So all week, it was bandages and nitle gloves. Looked weird but I was still fishing. Oh, the fishing was OK. Camping great! So be careful out there. Sometimes nature gets ya'. Don

Seems like a lot of frustration chased by the lack of enforcement. Ever considered that is what somebody voted for. Seems like we got what we deserve. Don

You comment reflects what I found up this way. From 0 checks for near 60 years of angling to 4 times in one summer. You might think someone finally gives a crap about our resources. Don

Adams, please record the number on the front of the truck and phone the logging company. They need to know which driver demonstrate discourtesy or drive dangerously. Don

Adams, Sundre Forest Products is building a road from the North Fork Road south into the triangle of land bordered by the North Ram to the north, the Forestry Truck Road to the west and the South Ram to the south. During the construction of the road right away. tress are removed and are called "SALVAGE". The salvage will be trucked to the mill for processing. During the meeting I attended as a representative of TU, the audience was told that the drivers are local and care. Further, a contract enforcement person is employed to check on truck drivers performance. In spite of this, the audience was told that there maybe drivers who are still being weeded out due to performance. On a personal note, I've been chased off the North Fork road twice by logging trucks and once by an oil field hauler. Pay attention, the road is narrow in some places. In each case, the incidence happened well away from the present log haul area and over 20 years ago. Regards, Don

Log Haul Plan for Sundre Forest Products in the North Ram Area. The comments below were provided by the company. The Haul on the North Fork Road will commence on July 3rd. One contractor, Erickson, will begin hauling from Km 49, travelling east to the mainline. Erickson’s will be hauling on the North Fork all summer from Km 49 and 47 and will move to the Gap mainline this Fall. We plan to have only one contractor on this portion of the North Fork (Km 42 – 56) for the summer so traffic will not be too heavy. Trucks are instructed to drive as if there is a vehicle around every corner. We completed line of site clearing last fall and have plans to upgrade the road over the summer for the winter log haul. This will involve shaping and grading as well as gravelling. Another contractor, Darcar, will begin hauling from the Trout and will travel the north fork between km 42 and 41 then down the mainline so will not add much to the traffic. Robill contracting will begin hauling on the lower portion of the mainline mid August coming out at Km 18.5 and travelling south to Hwy 752. We do have right of way salvage from the road we are developing in the Ram Triangle, this wood will move sporadically over the summer months but should not add significantly to the traffic. We plan on occupying the new camp at km 61 temporarily with planters come July. The permanent camp will not be established until October. We expect the loghaul to be busy in the winter months, starting in November. Folks in addition to the companies comments above: Sundre Forest Products is installing a log yard and camp facility near kilometre 60 on the North Fork Road. This facility is needed due to forest operations in the Ram Triangle. While it was not Sundre Forest Product preferred location which was south of the bridge at kilometer 61, the Govt required they locate at the present spot. Regards, Don