alan2 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Well, after about 4 hours of fishing each the last 4 days, my casting elbow is a bit sore. :$*%&: I had this last summer too, but hoped it would be all gone by now. I found that as a right handed caster, if I fished moving water from the awkward side of the stream (you know what I mean) and had to do some backhand type of casts it aggravated it more, so I only fished from the easier side of the Bow ( the west side) these few days, but it still bothers a bit. Anyone else have this happen from casting? It seems like part of the cause might be too much wrist flexing whan casting. Last summer I adapted a bit by using more shoulder, body movement and way less elbow/wrist flex entirely. Comments? Suggestions? (Yes I know---take casting lessons!) Thanks guys. alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopdrop Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 It's probably tennis elbow. Go to a physiotherapist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverDoctor Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Had that also a couple of years ago. Definably see a doctor. It's what made me switch over to the Spey style of casting, double haul was killing me. I adopted a style that is more body movement oriented. I've been lucky to have the condition disappear over time. You may need to look at your casting style and revise it in some way. Before anything you need to heal it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevesr1 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I had my elbow xray'd when I hurt my arm a coue of weeks ago. Doc said: "Its not broken, but you know it's a bit arthritic don't you? Great. I haven't spoken to him about it in detal, but I have known something was up for a while now. Ill get him to give me options after the injury totally heals. Anyway, my point is had I not had the injury, it may have been years before I did anything about it the annoying pain. Go see a Doctor! And in my case pray I don't have to spey cast. I can't.afford it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchcreek Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 #1, good advice already sent, go see a doctor and lay off for a while, don't bum up your upcoming summer! I had a friend who got the same problem a few years back. Partly arthitis (*common in us old guys) and mostly casting style/stoke. Correction came when he took an hour with a casting coach, learned to shoot line Vs. aerilizing too long a line and changed his line to a shorter head section, same 5Wt as he had before but different configuration. Not all lines are built the same even if they are listed as WF. Pills took care of the arthritis, under medical direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan2 Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 Thanks for the replies everyone. When it was really bothering last summer, I went to a physiotherapist in Market Mall prof bldg, who basically said it's a type of tennis elbow. I had 4 treatments over 4 wks, (massage, tens) and he suggested I try an elbow brace, and/or a wrist brace. I can't say that the treatments made any difference but since they were administered by ladies 25 yrs younger than me, it was stimulating for a short time. The wrist brace sort of helped a bit, elbow brace, no. I also do these wrist flex& hold stretches they suggested and I actually thought it was gone now since it's had 2 months of rest but apparently not. Dang. If it wasn't for the fact that I only seem to have half the control of my left arm that I'd like, then I'd switch over sometimes. Share the workload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acurrie Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Had that also a couple of years ago. Definably see a doctor. It's what made me switch over to the Spey style of casting, double haul was killing me. I adopted a style that is more body movement oriented. I've been lucky to have the condition disappear over time. You may need to look at your casting style and revise it in some way. Before anything you need to heal it. If the conservative treatment isn't working, and typically it doesn't unless you give your arm a good rest, and even then it may come back after a few sessions, then the casting style is going to help the best. I really like the low arm cast on the side, it's tough to get good snap on the release, but it does the trick. (although i'm no expert on casting) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 A friend of mine and I suffer occasionally from "tennis or fly casters elbow". It is sometimes inflamed ligaments and sometimes slightly torn ones.(or arthritis in the joint) In the case of the first circumstances, winter should rest it, but a definite aid to rest and healing is the removal of inflammation and pain. Don't know if it's available in pharmacies in Alberta(because it's an iffy thing here in BC, some do, some won't), but ibuprofen gel 20% is like magic in a jar for elbows and shoulders. j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrinhurst Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Well, after about 4 hours of fishing each the last 4 days, my casting elbow is a bit sore. :$*%&: I had this last summer too, but hoped it would be all gone by now. I found that as a right handed caster, if I fished moving water from the awkward side of the stream (you know what I mean) and had to do some backhand type of casts it aggravated it more, so I only fished from the easier side of the Bow ( the west side) these few days, but it still bothers a bit. Anyone else have this happen from casting? It seems like part of the cause might be too much wrist flexing whan casting. Last summer I adapted a bit by using more shoulder, body movement and way less elbow/wrist flex entirely. Comments? Suggestions? (Yes I know---take casting lessons!) Thanks guys. alan Oh dude...I feel your pain. Literally. I have had the same pain in my elbow since Thanksgiving, or fake Thanksgiving according to rickr, and went to see a physiotherapist. She massaged it, used ultrasound on it (aparently it reduces the swelling involved with an over used tendon) and even had my chiropractor do some active release on it. The chiropractor bit worked the best, so I tried mimicking the techniques myself with some Deep Cold and it has done it's job over time. The elbow brace hasn't really done what its supposed to for me, but ibuprophen really helps reduce the inflamation in the tendon. Took a while, but the best thing for it is rest. Try to use your other hand for whatever you can and stretch the muscles in your arm and elbow. Be patient is the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan2 Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 I used to lay by the stream and put my arm in the water last summer which helped the sore elbow until the water got too warm in August...and I also found the side casting was less painful too. I didn't think topically applied Ibruprofen (gel) could or would even work. Hmmm, maybe I'll check around and maybe I will just not fish for a couple more months and rest it. Boring. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrinhurst Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Yes, it is boring. I can't tell you how badly I have wanted to fish lately, but wanted to make sure I rested my arm real well so that I didn't completely bugger it for my first full season of fishing this summer where I'll have more time to hit the water. It's boring, but worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAV Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Not sure how open minded you are but acupuncture worked for me a couple of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinhogdaddy Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I had the same problem. I used the cream, chiroprator and finally I found something that worked. www.SonicRelief.com Check it out. I have used it for about 1 year and find if my elbow gets sore, 10 minutes twice a day does the trick. Good Luck FHD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan2 Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Tried accupuncture for lower back but it didn't help. This time the elbow mostly quit hurting after 3 days this time, but I know if I had kept fishing it would be hurting still, and probably worse than ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyfisher Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Years ago I was heading down that slippery slope called caster's elbow until I began using a good elbow brace: www.serolabio.com Along with the brace and some simple stretches to the forearm my casting arm is now good. I never fish or cast without wearing the brace. best fishes, Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan2 Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 Thanks Paul. I checked out that site---I use to wear one of the sacroiliac back belts they show, and it helped. Maybe the elbow brace will help me as effectively too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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