birchy Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 With the recent rise in gas prices and seemingly no end in sight... are any of you reconsidering what you use for a fishing/recreation vehicle? For myself, my 4Runner is also our family vehicle.. I'm getting a little under 22mpg combined, which is not too bad, but we're a one income family so it's a stark contrast from our last vehicle.. a Toyota Echo. This summer we purchased ourselves a camper trailer that weighs about 2300 pounds dry. When it's loaded with water and our stuff it's probably ~3000 pounds. The 4Runner is rated to pull a maximum of 5000 pounds... but I have no idea where they come up with these figures. I had to rev the ever living crap out of it to keep it above 90km on some of the hills going down highway 22 to go camping in BC. Plus it was really windy on the way down. Coming back wasn't quite as bad but I was lucky if I was getting 300km on a tank while pulling that trailer. It made me contemplate whether or not we should be looking at something with some more ponies under the hood.. maybe a full size SUV like a Sequoia/Expedition/Yukon/Tahoe type dealy. Would probably work out to be better mileage pulling the trailer, but at the same time.. we'd be looking at even worse MPG for our daily driving. Not terribly worse, but worse nonetheless. Now is the time to buy big SUV's when it comes to the vehicle itself.. but definitely not the time to buy when it comes to putting fuel in them! I'm curious what you guys/gals have been thinking/doing in regards to this lately? Quote
reevesr1 Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Funny you should ask. My response to high gas prices was to pick this up in Edmonton late last week: 2006 Ram 1500 SLT Quad Cab with the Hemi and tow package. Electric everything, off road tires, 44000 k. Got it for a couple of reasons. The most obvious being that people are panic selling their big gas guzzling trucks and SUVs. Panic selling almost always creates unique buying opportunities. I got the truck for about 10K less what it would have been before all this gas price run up started. Or 10K less than a comparably equipped mid sized SUV or CUV. It gets 15 MPG. My saturn got 30 MPG. I fill my Saturn once a week. It has a 10 gallon tank. So that would mean with no change in habits, I will spend an extra 10 gallons a week, or around 38 liters. Using $1.25 as an average price, thats what, $47.50 a week more, or $2470 a year. Hmmm, that's what, 4 yrs of gas? Seemed like an easy decision. Also, there is more than a small chance that oil is on its way down, some are predicting it going back to the $50-$70 range (in the Calgary Herald this morning). While I think that $50 is not in the cards anytime soon, $80-$100 would certainly get gasoline back to the $1.00 range. If that happens, then I flip the truck for a very tidy profit and buy something a bit smaller, which is all I really need anyway. Quote
Nick0Danger Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 towing compacity is mostly based of breaking ability, look at the f 150's they have a high tow compacity cause ford put HUGE brakes on those bad boys. As long as you can stop it they don't care how you get it up to speed. That my dad pulled there trailer (19 footer) with there GMC safari, with the 3.8 liter. Nick Quote
SanJuanWorm Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Chevy Avalanche. Loves gas. I love it. Quote
Teck71 Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 usually a Chevy venture, but I picked up a good condition 93 blazer Tahoe for the best price free all it needs is a new muffler, 4wd actuator, stereo. so no effect on my fishing adventures Quote
Jayhad Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 I am currently looking at buying a Mitsu Delica... you may have seen them around they are a goofy right hand drive 4wd van from asia... they also get 36mpg. Now they aren't very fast but I won't be putting $150 a tank into my f150 any more Quote
snakeman Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Luckily my favourite river is the Elbow and the most prime stretch happens to be a 5 minute bike ride away. Quote
Tungsten Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 i drive a 6 liter gmc ,and pull 4000lbs and get about350 kms on 90 liters ,hills are no problem .hey rickr thats 15mpg as long as you dont touch the gas pedal Quote
reevesr1 Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 i drive a 6 liter gmc ,and pull 4000lbs and get about350 kms on 90 liters ,hills are no problem .hey rickr thats 15mpg as long as you dont touch the gas pedal I hear ya on the gas pedal thing! Got 16 MPG or so on the highway coming back from Edmonchuk, with a side trip to Whitecourt (600 km, 90L or so). According to the computer, I'm at 14.7 MPG in the second tank (all city driving). I also looked up Hypermiling for tricks on maximizing gas mileage. Can you say coasting?? I've only really hit the pedal a couple of times to see what it can do. It is fairly intoxicating!! I'm thinking of putting a barrier between my foot and the gas pedal and just idling everywhere. Quote
dude1125 Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 I drive a 99 Buick LeSabre and pull a drift boat. I was given the car on the condition I don't sell it. It has worked out ok even if it wasn't my first choice. With the low clearance it has yet to have a problem at any of the boat launches. Pulling the drift boat halves my gas mileage. I did a 650 km pulling the drift boat and spent 120 on gas which is about 19 mpg Quote
SanJuanWorm Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Chris you musta painted your car after your parade. Quote
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birchy Posted September 8, 2008 Author Posted September 8, 2008 Oh.. and the reason I'm not looking at any trucks is because we have friends riding with us quite often and with the car seat in the back it's tight.. 3rd row seating would be great to have. Quote
SanJuanWorm Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Sweet ....... the ride with pride. Quote
rehsifylf Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 This baby'll get you where you need to go - and has plenty of room in the back. Won't be good if you or any of your family are alergic to shag carpet though. Quote
Tako Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 700km/65L tank is about normal for a mix of hwy and city mileage in my 4cyl 2wd Chev S10. All I need really. 4wd is not the requirement people think it is. When I put my 12ft aluminum/motor/gas in the back, I barely notice a difference in mileage. Quote
darrinhurst Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Oh.. and the reason I'm not looking at any trucks is because we have friends riding with us quite often and with the car seat in the back it's tight.. 3rd row seating would be great to have. Honda Pilot. Seats 8. Quote
DonnieM Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 2002, Mazda Tribute, Pretty sweet SUV, 4x4 and gets me into the bush, and not to bad on gas at all. But seeing as I work at a Dodge dealership here in Calgary it might be time to switch to a 1500 when I get back from my winter down south. 1500's have by far the best gas effeciency of any comparatably sized truck! And like they always say, RAM THE DAUGHTER AND DODGE THE FATHER! Amen. Quote
Ricinus Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 I think I'll keep driving my 99 F150 S/C 4x4 for awhile. I get over 20mpg on the hwy and its paid for. I want to see what comes available in the future before I buy another vehicle. What ever I choose, it's going to have to get better than 30mpg on the highway and have some offroad capability. Regards Mike Quote
Castuserraticus Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Birchy - I have the identical truck to the one you had stolen. I pull a 1600# tent trailer. I think that is close to the useable mx of the vehicle. I was disappointed to find out the Toyota has less hp than the Pathfinder. There's a gov't of Canada website that provides fuel economy ratings for all vehicles. Check it out and you'll be surprised at how little you're saving with the 4runner over a larger truck. http://www.oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/...ption-guide.cfm Quote
birchy Posted September 9, 2008 Author Posted September 9, 2008 Does anybody own a Toyota Sequoia? Any comments on it? Quote
scrambler Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 I bought a new HHR and decided to use my GMC 2500 ext. cab 4x4 longbox just for towing my trailer and quad.It is cheaper for me to buy and insure the little car than just puting fuel in the truck each month.A couple years ago i would never have thought in a million years i would own a 4 cyl car.I have not owned a car( other than my 72 Nova) in probably 15 years.Oh well i guess its a sign of the times.I do really like my HHR though lol. Quote
jonny5 Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 1970 3/4 ton camper special... Miles per gallon? Maybe gallons per mile would be a better measure. Going over to BC to drop it off as my dad wants the engine (400 small block) and transmission for his truck. If he doesn't want it, I will start it up and throw a brick on the gas peddle and in to the fraser river she goes ... was much cheaper to drive when it had the original straight 6 in it but pretty slow with the camper on it... oh well, as they say, horse power is happyness. Jon Quote
ladystrange Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 just me and my 98 chev blazer with +/- 250,000k on it. goes everywhere i want it to. 55L tank gets about 425km - 450km Hwy at an average of 130k/hr. i'd probably get better mileage if i could keep the foot of the floor boards. any of you who has fished with me or has seen the back of my truck know i haul 1/2 my life around in it. and when camping it gets used for sleeping too. has lots of cargo room but only seats 5, comfortably 4. Quote
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