bigbowtrout

Some folk don't have jobs so they could spend all day looking for you LOL Others have jobs but spend way to much time not working.

Peter You should give us a rough time on when you are going and where and then all of us can have a competition on finding you the best rates.

Looks like an awesome trip and thanks for posting.

I moved it here cuz some idiots just don't understand my point of the post and showing off your ****ing Wolf is not one of them.

Will siad rickr

AMEN

I posted this just to try and clear the air. Not to start a toughguy competition or a witch hunt on a B&B. Burning down houses and threats of wolf attacks never need to enter into any story and the same goes with throwing rocks at jet boats or chucking streamers at rafters. All of this proves **** all. Fly fishing is a great peaceful pastime for those that enjoy the outdoors and the thrill of the chase and it should bring out the best in all of us. I bet out there somewhere we have a bunch of land owners talking about us just like we talk about ATVers.

Hi my name is Chris and I like Cake and Dave's Mom. Sometimes both at the same time.

I was just trying to clear the air on this issue and to me it's not really worth the hassle to fish these areas but if you want to pull the titles and print them off next to a copy of what was posted in the link above go for it. Or you can ask the RCMP to charge you with trespassing and head to court and prove yourself there. Getting shot over a few trout is not worth it to me but the B&B trying to close access gets me a little as they are trying keep that for there guests only, so that means they are making money off of our backs.

Ok folks Here is what was sent to me from Riparian Land Management & Water Boundaries Unit Land Management Branch, Lands Division Alberta Sustainable Resource Development This part we kinda had down Chris, this was forwarded to me for an answer. I have received questions like this from others before, particularly about fishing below the banks of the Crowsnest River in southern Alberta. In general, and for the vast majority of water bodies, the Crown is the owner of the stream bed. This is so because the streambeds were never subject to grant and were specifically excluded from titles, or by Section 3 of the Public Lands Act grants title to streambeds to the Crown. There are some exceptions to the general rule. The main exception is lands that were formerly owned by the Hudson's Bay Company. Prior to confederation of Canada, the Hudson's Bay Company (HBC) of fur traders through a Royal Charter from King Charles II of England, owned by deed what was then called Rupert's Land which included all the land in the Province of Alberta as we know it today. When the HBC surrendered its lands in 1870 to the Dominion of Canada, it did so with some conditions attached including the retention of a portion of lands for the HBC. These lands included their posts, a block of land adjoining each post, and a grant of land in each township within the lands set out for settlement not exceeding one twentieth of those lands. Of these lands, the HBC retained ownership of all lands south of the North Saskatchewan River within Section 8 and all of Section 26 except the northeast quarter section in every township as it was surveyed. In every fifth township surveyed, the HBC retained full title to all of Section 26 and all of Section 8. Today, the beds and shores within these parcels of land are generally understood to be owned by the current titleholder as titles based on the original deeds were passed onto subsequent landowners (unless expressly conveyed otherwise). The other exception would be where a land grant/title specifically includes the bed and shore of a stream in its description. The only way to determine this is to view the title. If it is silent (i.e. doesn't say anything) then section 3 applies and the crown owns the bed and shore. Additional information is available on our website at http://srd.alberta.ca/lands/usingpubliclan...boundaries.aspx. Then I did a follow up email asking The two main areas are on the Crowsnest(Sara's B&B SW and NW of 17, Twp 7, Rng 2, W5M) like you mentioned and the Jumpingpound Creek just down stream of highway 1 with the odd mention of the North Raven. From the info you have provided below it would seem that I will need to find the titles of these lands in question or is there a reference somewhere that pinpoints these owners? I have zero knowledge of the workings of land titles and any help would be appreciated. And then I got this responce. Actually, I had a feeling you were implying Sara's as I have heard this many times before when I have been down south! I specifically checked our files before I responded and can tell you that the bed and shore of the Crowsnest River in sections NW 17, SW20 and all of 18 in TWP 7 Rg2 W5 are Crown owned by exception. The titles exclude the river specifically. The adjoining landowners cannot force a fisherman out of the stream bed if they are traversing it below the bank. I am not aware of issues involving Jumpingpound Creek but a legal land location would suffice to begin search of a land title. As I did not ask permision to post his name I have left it off but I hope this clears up a few things and if anyone can give me the land location for the others I will forward it on.

Expedia is my go to site and they have yet to let me down. My Dad swears by the AMA. But sometimes it is better to sit down with an agent and let them find you the best deal for you.

Here is some more info and I am working on finding all of those in Alberta that has the stream bed rights. http://www.edmonton.ca/environmental/docum..._and_Shores.pdf

Thanks guys

You will die so don't do it!!!!!!!!! There is way to much crap you could get your legs caught on so please don't try it.

Lots of room for your purse and Lululemon bag

Warranty 3 yrs/ 60,000 km so does that mean you are just over the 3 years??? If so that sucks.

Life is way to freaking short to worry about this kinda crap. If a landowner goes that far out of his way to post signs or come down to the river with a gun then turn around and go fish somewhere else. If a gun is involved then call the Police after you leave, if it’s a sign issue and a pissing match about land and access rights then contact the powers that be and do some digging and find out the facts then go from there. But really do we need someone to get shot or attacked by a Wolf just so you can fish a Km of stream? I really don’t think so.

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Freaking awesome lol

Ilike Budget but call around and see who offers free Km's. Avis also has a couple of cubes.

http://tpr.alberta.ca/parks/fishcreek/location.asp

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I like Cake

He only gets 5 from me and they are all used and the hooks are rusty!!!!