CopperJonny

Good on ya Dood , At a Boy ! Keep up the great work

Funny how defensiveness flares ignorance !! Personal attacks and vendettas aside ....lets stay on topic seeing as one guide opens his mouth all hell breaks loose lol . I for one am not a guide .....I am a flyfisher , river user ....AND Boating enthusiast ! This topic I believe ( i may be wrong as it was not me to begin it ) yet I'm pretty sure it was geared more towards the idea of the topic name , due to none other than pure ignorance . Aside from that it forked into a couple of directions .. the main one in MY books is environmental footprint . Which unfortunately IS the most important concern to anyone . So please spare me the BS about " I can do this or that , just as rightful as you may . So sqrvx off or I'll get EVERYONE in the province riled up !" . ( yeah do that , lets see how that turns out ) the Bow River will definately benefit from that ! just like the other water bodies mentioned ... and once again juvenility shows its face on this forum ... Personally I give a rats ass what you do , or ANYONE does . as long as you do it ethically and environmentally friendly . If it can't be done like so .....then yeah , now we have a problem!! What is needed is a compromise to make everyone happy ....#1 Respect for other people , #2 Courtesy , #3 Empathy for the ecosystem we use merely for enjoyment ...and what else may we add to this .. ( not necessarily in that order either , just throwing it out there) also what is mentioned above ( some of them )( and possibly not any of my ideas ) just saying .....if its this bad a situation ....then lets get on a round table of sorts and agree on something ... together as users of this resource ... Rules of the River ! Obviously there has to be !! If you don't like it , find another body of water to play in . How about that . So please .....don't get off subject , it tends to become reduntant ! And we get know where . Can't we all just get along !?

I grew up operating and being a passenger on boats all of my life .... and one of the fundamental rules of thumb that was taught to me before I ever took the controls . Is the fact of ...when in company of other water users .... And this is on a larger scale body of water , let alone the Bow ...or even Dave's stream in his video . Is the practice of exercising what is universally known among the boating world as a " Courtesy Wake " . Plain and simple , no bones about it those who do not practice it are either ignorant , rude ...or both ! Nothing more , nothing less !! IMO on a valuable and resourceful river like the Bow... a "Blue Ribbon Fishery " one of very few river's on this rock left wether man made fishery or not .. is pretty near much a miracle fwiw . I don't believe powered boats should be on it until after it may in the least widen or deepen ... Why the heck would someone who invests into a boat and motor would want to take the chance of ruining a prop .....inexpensive pins , or merely scratch the heck out of there toy is beyond me . I know I don't . Lakes are perfect for that , so much more room , great fishing opportunities , watersports like skiing , tubing etc can be done so much more efficiently ....the are many lakes around that are so much more fun and efficient .....To each their own in that I respect...Just doesnt make any " cents". Regardless .. the destroying of habitat is just unacceptable behavior , thats like riding a quad through playground size patches of dirt . Or buying a big truck to drive on a sidewalk only or in a parking lot.... if one has too do it , as it is there right ....please just simply practice respect and use the " courtesy wake " ! Its obvious there are few pathways along the river sufficient enough to even drive the boat through ....just so happens ... the fish tend to congregate the same areas for a lot of the year . How would someone like it if another animal uses there front yard , backyard " in town" as a major corridor for travel . It would be neat , yet I'm am pretty sure the phone would be picked up and dealt with rather promptly " for childrens sake" by F&W . Either with fences , traps or firearms ! It just wouldnt be tolerated ...come on . There is a place for everything ! Habitat is obviously crucial to the sucess in spawning and rearing of young , and it is very limited , even if they move to smaller streams to do so , they live the majority of there lives in the mainstream ... That river is so tiny compared to most waterways ...... it is just not sensible , not to me anyway...thats my two cents . I merely wanted to point out the " Courtesy wake" . ( and I do get the reality that the majority of the itballs who rip up and down out of pleasure and , despite the disgust of other river user's , and safety of the redds propably wont see this thread , but geeze )....end of transmission . Peace

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Great vid man ..... what a great day ! Odd I know , yet I actually like that tune ...pretty cool . Some of the music on most fishing vids are just awesome . So hard to pin point and or find them though too . Ie: " Metalhead ! Fish Bum adventures , and , 'Off the grid " ....so hard sometimes to find the tunes in the credits etc . Great Post man.

Whoops sorry Smitty , i didnt mean any harm . My bad . All confused haha , been choked lately regarding some stuff , lol . haven't been able to shake the thoughts ......Thanks Pete

No other sensible choice ......Liberal !( without the unibrow) So what they flub'd a couple billion on the registry , now we know ! At least it was in good faith .... Funny , the PC's are going for this Jet Fiasco , knowing full well WE will be losing tens of Billions more than originally planned ......Aside from that ...the manipulation of regulations and Acts to help inject those few Drunken Cats with even more fat ! (pipelines and oilsands) Is a disgrace !! ...... at the cost of our wilderness . As well as attacking the near helpless and aging seniors , who not only helped vote them in , the first place .......Also put their entire lives into helping build and maintain this nation of ours .......Its dispicable , and anyone who doesnt see that , should set an appointment with an opthamologist.. And " Oh , We want to do whats good for Canadians !" ( NGP) yet terminate 19,000+ positions in their budget , trying to make ends meet ! How about a standing applause for these bunch of winners !! DEMOCRACY SUCKS !! Its just better than the other choices.....

Wow , this is exquisitely crafted......Thanks ! What a treat....

Thanks soggysocks, its.....unreal .......manipulation all in the name of metal and paper that seems to be of more value than oxygen and water...yet could not sustain any life . Shame shame !!

I was out on the river for a bit Sunday afternoon , man did it chill down , my bad for under dressing ....still Beauty though ..fish were active until the weather changed too ! However I ended up with a snapped titanium guide within the third section of my MD 400 ....weird....anyhow The purpose of this post is , while TroutNV and I were arriving in "secret Southland run" we were happy to learn from a fellow fly fisher who was making his way back slowly to his truck with his boys in tow from a great afternoon's session with his kids ...that the fellow who regularly spincast fishes the canal with live worms and fills his cooler with whichever fish bites the hook , while tipping back some "Kokanee" has finally been busted by the CO's or F&W ( whichever do the arresting ) for poaching !! YeeHaw!! Apparently the officer's have been trying to nab this fella for some time . Have been seen hiding behind trees on the east bank spotting for him , and have finally caught the peice of shiz ! Way to go!! Awesome news , just thought I will share it !

x1 Also as BiggyJ mentioned ... I hope with every "new" visitor to each new stream , as well as every and all streams and lakes , I sure hope that ethics and practices are continually being carried out and taught......stewardship is the only line of defence ! I hear what you are saying , yet on a rock being over populated as we are , all we may hope for and continue to do is just that !! Also another great reason for a populus such as us , to begin doing more , if not as much as we may ... as in ......policeing it ourselves , several fellas on here have helped out , and many more have also helped un announced ....Kudos to all !! Great job guys and gals .....and Thanks !! Jonny

" Excuse me dude ,......i have it !"

Funny thing , I was swinging on the main river in Langley over the holidays....Derby Reach to be exact . So I'm pounding the water working with a skagit and MOW setup ....few headshakes , fail to set the hook properly with a fleshfly....have a gander upriver and a couple of hundred metres are a pair of fellas , one has a big ole spincast , the other a fly rod sitting on there hanger rod holders ....boys are just chillin by the fire and i see em jump up and run to the rods....there pulling em in left and right......15-16" cutts i manage to make it over to the fire and am relieved to get some warmth as were chatting.....the fly guy is showing me his " real" steelheaders reel , centerpin and all dragless....i was slightly impressed .....until this fella decided it was time to pull in his..."nymph" I **** you not , this fella had on his leader a Pickerel rig with some real eggs and spray on ...with a big ole heavy weight on the bottom ..........I couldnt believe what i was seeing....What a croc ! ..... nice guy and all , i still laugh when i think about it..........whats next

Through Hail in the summer , Rain and more Hail that day ! I have to say ......I think that was the most fun Ive had in a while , what a day!! Darren's sniping of Browns was awesome! Lunch on the river ( cafe style) , brews and a golden sun , on a beautiful bluebird ( at first ) day , swimming for Rainbows....sure is the life I have to lead in a metropolitan like this....God Bless the Bow ! Thanks Jay !

Hey Tom , if you pm Robert on here FFC , that boy will point you in the right direction Bro ! He knows his stuff when it comes to puters....best of luck man !

Hey guys , thank you very much for all of the input ! It is greatly appreciated....I haven't been home or on the river for some time now....starting to really miss drifting and being in the water ....won't be long now...Usually I bring my tying gear everywhere I go , yet this time I figured I would'nt have time . Was looking at buying a "new to me vice" off of here , yet didn't have the time to meet up and get my hands on it , nor another spey rod.....darn work! Been working so hard , happy to be back at er , that I have just recently ....last Monday the 19th , compression fractured my T-7 vertebrae ......OUCH . Crushed between a manlift and a 24" stainless steel pipe , up here in Peace River at the DMI Pulp Mill ! There goes my hunting season , and neverending fly season for a few months . Dammit.... Be careful out there, at work and at play ....lower your head one time , for one second and those hazards WILL bite !! It doesnt matter how many times you or I have done the task , 12 years I have been in my career and not one accident , other than merely "something got into my eye" , and the one time bit !!Hard.......medivacced to Edmonton and everything so they could decide wether or not to do surgery , thankgod they did'nt, anyhow...thanks for the input everyone , stay safe !

Ok I am back in town now . . And tooled up. I just bought another welding machine and am fully mobile. I am eager to help anyone out , who may require some metal working , fitting and welding . Give me a shout at (587) 226-0501 . Tight Lines everyone ! Thanks CJ. Jonathan

Hey man , Im up in Mcmurray right now on a turnaround , should be finished in the next week or so , .......give or take a week:) . thats about the best that I may say at this point......it is a day to day business , and as far as I know ...Im on tonight , for now....nature of the beast . How soon are you in need of this help ? PM me if interested . maybe some details too ! - CJ.

Wow , I see a master boat builder in your future ! I am extremely impressed to witness some professional craftsmanship at work ! Kudos !!! Thank you for sharing this thread!!

Do it Rob !! if you like to create things you'll love it . EVERYTHING is a material sometimes , haha . Look out for the entamologist in you to "emerge"... dont forget the almighty Worm , in this river , and rubber legged chenille stonefly.....caddis , stimies , BH PT's , Princes , and what Mitchell said ...lots of flies are diff combinations of near same materials ....Have a chat with the fellas at Fish Tales , they will steer you in the right direction !!

Very good idea Brian . I'm going to donate as well . Thats what Im talking about !! .......Action !

So unless this is just a bitchen kitchen and a sounding board.........who's got an idea ?

. Signs are a perfect start ! IMO

Not kidding at all ! As I mentioned , IMO ! Thats why i said it . Take a look at "Rip Lip" , again IMO thats either a bad shot by a heron , or a treble hook at its best !! I have landed over 50 fish in the past couple of months and have not damaged one Eye , jaw nor even snagged a fish by accident !! I tie all of my own flies too . ( mind you Im pretty proud of that , and understand that alone is a miracle) yet I do have to dissagree with your statement. I guess after mentioning that I will thank Aaron , Chris and Matt at FT for helping me decide which hooks work the best and I will keep using them. Thats just my opinion . Which is built upon a rather first hand experience , regarding the basis of my opinion . Proof is in the puddin' as they say . Also its all in how the fisherman handles the fish...after all , fly fisherman tend to be geared toward conservation more than any other user of the river .And that I will boldly state , as a fact. CJ

IMO - it would be a great start if they made the river a fly fishing only river , to the Carseland wier ! ( i know , somewhat biased . But they do it elsewhere don't they!) Afterall , with all of the stars lined up correctly , which they happen to be regarding location , the Bow river's Blue Ribbon fishery is not much less than a miracle right!!