CopperJonny

I have been in touch with them ... Pieroway ... these guy's have been terribly busy keeping up with everything and as well as their full time lives as well .. just like the rest of us ... may be a lot of gear out , yet they are still a tiny couple of guy's show .. And again , I sure have to say ... These fellas are really being helpful and are actually going to go out of their way to accompany me .. That I have to say is pretty stand up ...Also , anything I may do to help ... I'm in !! They're Canadian , local and very tiny .. One heck of a piece of art they put out , merely a couple of wrinkles as always , but one thing I may say is ... I have had some nice browns and bows on the end of the line in even the coldest of fishable days on this river and the rod is good as new ! A mere malfunction in a guide and I sure understand that these fellas do not manufacture guides .. Beautiful workmanship I am happy to say , same as some of our boat builders on the site , as well as other great rod builders and fly tiers .. reaaly though , I feel like an ass , and have had somewhat of an about face in regards to the little guy's again .... You all are pretty Awesome craftsmen and I for one am all about supporting and promoting great people and products .. built in Canada , made by Canadians , and for the most hellish of extremes , and beautiful conditions we may face in this frozen hostile wasteland ( Carrey ) . A little bit of feedback and working together everyone can shine !! As a matter of fact , another member , a buddy of mine has given me the privilidge lately to read an older book " Fishing Dry Flies for Trout on Rivers and Streams " by an Art Lee ( while I'm in between my beloved Gierach books )and in it he maintains " something like , and I'm looking at it right now so as to not directly quote him , " a well travelled American fly fisherman are the most accomplished pract... of the sport anywhere ! " well .. I for one am pretty sure we've a few up here that will give 'em a run for their money ! ( pardon the digression ) Anyhow , Jeff , Brad .. I apologize .. I'm not perfect , thats for sure .... But I'll keep improving and I will offer you if you've seen this , and any other member on here help in any way ( ok almost anyway ) you need , if its in my capabilities to help you all improve , grow , smile and prosper . CJ - Jonathan

Yeah you're right , all rods break that's a "shore" thing , and yes its definately not as useless as i originally sounded like .... i do have a replacement , my TCX and its merely a matter of time ... .. fortunately it has been dry season so i would'nt have used it either , lately ... and it's not my first breakage of rod either ... I have definately heard of the turn around times sometimes with the big name brands , yet personally I am not very interested in off the shelf as much as i used too . And given the fact of turn around times , it wouldnt be any different anyhow , I understand that . Another member actually built this work of art , and it is custom and a beauty ! It casts beautiful and handles the heavy lines without a problem at all . After all , I did fall head over heels for it and bought it . I am certainly all for local and smaller companies , and will do my part to support "the little guy " ! I merely feel maybe they still have a part to do as well . I have had plans to learn rod building myself as well , for self growth .. I just haven't had the chance as of yet ... I humbly apologize if I sounded harsh , I do have a habit of coming off a bit ass like , until i think of it later ..lol . No harm intended ! I am only suggesting , in order for one to promote a company to friends , colleagues and future clientelle , I feel a company has a responsibility to their clients . Past , present , and not just future ... They absolutely did offer help when I finally had gotten ahold of them , yet still waiting for some communication ... and yes , i haven't been sitting and waiting , have left messages even since the original post .... Come on guy's whats up ? any communication is better than none .. I would love to see more Canadians getting in on a share of the market , in all fields , services , and industries ...

Saturday I broke my rod tip , during my first cast of the day ..I sent er sailing across the pool and nearly spearchucked a Brown I was casting too . lol .. Awe sunken heart all right !!! Yet I was out with some friends and had a blast none the less !! This Morning , monday morning I went to Springbrook Calgary ands was treated promptly , punctually and within 10 minutes I was out the door with a brand new tip , and ready for action again without a missed skip .. ( except yesterday as I am pretty hardcore and only come home to snooze and power up for the next adventure lol . And it was a Sunday so I'm sure they have to fish sometime too ) ........ Really though I just have to give a hats off to TFO and there exceptional service !!!! Unfortunately I can't say the same for another local rod company ... yep you guessed it .... It was a cold and dark Sunday on the Bow river in Feb 2012 when I noticed my Scandi line outside of one of my guides on the second section from the tip on my Metal Detector 400 .... So I restrung through all of the guides , scolding self for missing one when I noticed that "that Titanium " guide had snapped right in the middle section of the metal , broke right in half .. the "titanium" guide was now two pieces rather than one continuous spiral ..... Frig i said what the heck ?! ...... some "titanium" !! I thought .. So remembering the "Warranty" of the rod I immediately and promptly ceased casting , so as too save the rod and line from getting damged , aned with a somewhat sunken heart I called Pieroway... no answer .. left messages ..... finally about 3 weeks ago I had gotten ahold of them , and was told they would call me right back the following week ... and still nothing !!! I have tried calling and still no answer ... Thought I would share this ... I am definately choked and unhappy regarding service .. For an up and coming rod manufacturer and fledgling entrepreneurship , I see a huge failure to communicate in this manner !! I for one am pretty sure I shall never again purchase another rod or any gear from any other than tried and true , in the least definately will heed the reputation .. my bad for giving anyone a chance , even though I hear warnings from others past experiences !!! As I type this , my broken rod is beside me and unusable as it has been for nearly four months now .. and will continue to be in this shape for as long as I can imagine ... Some good this is !! So its great that its pretty I suppose , to look on the bright side , guess I spent the money on a display handle totally useless for service .... never again !! If you see this " to whom it may concern " ... could you please get a hold of me , and I will " Shirley" aknowledge here the fact !! ....... maybe ....... if I ever get around to do it ! One unhappy customer !! Jonathan . aka CopperJonny

Hi Dutchie , Ritchie I am wondering if you have any openings left this weekend , I have a couple of buddies who have been following your posts and are dying to get out with ya !! I've shared some experiences and they are frothing at the mouth for Big Browns lol.. They asked me to get ahold of you and see if you are open this weekend or if you are booked... could you please let me know ... thanks Dutchie.. CJ - Jonathan

Very nice.... congratulations on the opportunity to feed on some trout flesh !! And on your discovery of new waters

Good on ya Dood , At a Boy ! Keep up the great work

Funny how defensiveness flares ignorance !! Personal attacks and vendettas aside ....lets stay on topic seeing as one guide opens his mouth all hell breaks loose lol . I for one am not a guide .....I am a flyfisher , river user ....AND Boating enthusiast ! This topic I believe ( i may be wrong as it was not me to begin it ) yet I'm pretty sure it was geared more towards the idea of the topic name , due to none other than pure ignorance . Aside from that it forked into a couple of directions .. the main one in MY books is environmental footprint . Which unfortunately IS the most important concern to anyone . So please spare me the BS about " I can do this or that , just as rightful as you may . So sqrvx off or I'll get EVERYONE in the province riled up !" . ( yeah do that , lets see how that turns out ) the Bow River will definately benefit from that ! just like the other water bodies mentioned ... and once again juvenility shows its face on this forum ... Personally I give a rats ass what you do , or ANYONE does . as long as you do it ethically and environmentally friendly . If it can't be done like so .....then yeah , now we have a problem!! What is needed is a compromise to make everyone happy ....#1 Respect for other people , #2 Courtesy , #3 Empathy for the ecosystem we use merely for enjoyment ...and what else may we add to this .. ( not necessarily in that order either , just throwing it out there) also what is mentioned above ( some of them )( and possibly not any of my ideas ) just saying .....if its this bad a situation ....then lets get on a round table of sorts and agree on something ... together as users of this resource ... Rules of the River ! Obviously there has to be !! If you don't like it , find another body of water to play in . How about that . So please .....don't get off subject , it tends to become reduntant ! And we get know where . Can't we all just get along !?

I grew up operating and being a passenger on boats all of my life .... and one of the fundamental rules of thumb that was taught to me before I ever took the controls . Is the fact of ...when in company of other water users .... And this is on a larger scale body of water , let alone the Bow ...or even Dave's stream in his video . Is the practice of exercising what is universally known among the boating world as a " Courtesy Wake " . Plain and simple , no bones about it those who do not practice it are either ignorant , rude ...or both ! Nothing more , nothing less !! IMO on a valuable and resourceful river like the Bow... a "Blue Ribbon Fishery " one of very few river's on this rock left wether man made fishery or not .. is pretty near much a miracle fwiw . I don't believe powered boats should be on it until after it may in the least widen or deepen ... Why the heck would someone who invests into a boat and motor would want to take the chance of ruining a prop .....inexpensive pins , or merely scratch the heck out of there toy is beyond me . I know I don't . Lakes are perfect for that , so much more room , great fishing opportunities , watersports like skiing , tubing etc can be done so much more efficiently ....the are many lakes around that are so much more fun and efficient .....To each their own in that I respect...Just doesnt make any " cents". Regardless .. the destroying of habitat is just unacceptable behavior , thats like riding a quad through playground size patches of dirt . Or buying a big truck to drive on a sidewalk only or in a parking lot.... if one has too do it , as it is there right ....please just simply practice respect and use the " courtesy wake " ! Its obvious there are few pathways along the river sufficient enough to even drive the boat through ....just so happens ... the fish tend to congregate the same areas for a lot of the year . How would someone like it if another animal uses there front yard , backyard " in town" as a major corridor for travel . It would be neat , yet I'm am pretty sure the phone would be picked up and dealt with rather promptly " for childrens sake" by F&W . Either with fences , traps or firearms ! It just wouldnt be tolerated ...come on . There is a place for everything ! Habitat is obviously crucial to the sucess in spawning and rearing of young , and it is very limited , even if they move to smaller streams to do so , they live the majority of there lives in the mainstream ... That river is so tiny compared to most waterways ...... it is just not sensible , not to me anyway...thats my two cents . I merely wanted to point out the " Courtesy wake" . ( and I do get the reality that the majority of the itballs who rip up and down out of pleasure and , despite the disgust of other river user's , and safety of the redds propably wont see this thread , but geeze )....end of transmission . Peace

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Great vid man ..... what a great day ! Odd I know , yet I actually like that tune ...pretty cool . Some of the music on most fishing vids are just awesome . So hard to pin point and or find them though too . Ie: " Metalhead ! Fish Bum adventures , and , 'Off the grid " ....so hard sometimes to find the tunes in the credits etc . Great Post man.

Whoops sorry Smitty , i didnt mean any harm . My bad . All confused haha , been choked lately regarding some stuff , lol . haven't been able to shake the thoughts ......Thanks Pete

No other sensible choice ......Liberal !( without the unibrow) So what they flub'd a couple billion on the registry , now we know ! At least it was in good faith .... Funny , the PC's are going for this Jet Fiasco , knowing full well WE will be losing tens of Billions more than originally planned ......Aside from that ...the manipulation of regulations and Acts to help inject those few Drunken Cats with even more fat ! (pipelines and oilsands) Is a disgrace !! ...... at the cost of our wilderness . As well as attacking the near helpless and aging seniors , who not only helped vote them in , the first place .......Also put their entire lives into helping build and maintain this nation of ours .......Its dispicable , and anyone who doesnt see that , should set an appointment with an opthamologist.. And " Oh , We want to do whats good for Canadians !" ( NGP) yet terminate 19,000+ positions in their budget , trying to make ends meet ! How about a standing applause for these bunch of winners !! DEMOCRACY SUCKS !! Its just better than the other choices.....

Wow , this is exquisitely crafted......Thanks ! What a treat....

Thanks soggysocks, its.....unreal .......manipulation all in the name of metal and paper that seems to be of more value than oxygen and water...yet could not sustain any life . Shame shame !!

I was out on the river for a bit Sunday afternoon , man did it chill down , my bad for under dressing ....still Beauty though ..fish were active until the weather changed too ! However I ended up with a snapped titanium guide within the third section of my MD 400 ....weird....anyhow The purpose of this post is , while TroutNV and I were arriving in "secret Southland run" we were happy to learn from a fellow fly fisher who was making his way back slowly to his truck with his boys in tow from a great afternoon's session with his kids ...that the fellow who regularly spincast fishes the canal with live worms and fills his cooler with whichever fish bites the hook , while tipping back some "Kokanee" has finally been busted by the CO's or F&W ( whichever do the arresting ) for poaching !! YeeHaw!! Apparently the officer's have been trying to nab this fella for some time . Have been seen hiding behind trees on the east bank spotting for him , and have finally caught the peice of shiz ! Way to go!! Awesome news , just thought I will share it !

x1 Also as BiggyJ mentioned ... I hope with every "new" visitor to each new stream , as well as every and all streams and lakes , I sure hope that ethics and practices are continually being carried out and taught......stewardship is the only line of defence ! I hear what you are saying , yet on a rock being over populated as we are , all we may hope for and continue to do is just that !! Also another great reason for a populus such as us , to begin doing more , if not as much as we may ... as in ......policeing it ourselves , several fellas on here have helped out , and many more have also helped un announced ....Kudos to all !! Great job guys and gals .....and Thanks !! Jonny

Ok , .......I was kind of choked when I saw it ...I've seen them on the banks and whatnot ....... a bird on every corner of 30 square feet was what concerned me.....thanks guy's

I hear ya ....I thought of that as well..............Im just not sold on that , yet........The amount of birds was startling , and that is what is so alarming to me... I do pray that , is all it is..

Hi all , Managed to get out on the river yesterday for a bit .......trying some new water , another member and I had a great 2012 opener for us.....well my first cast this year anyhow....It was a beauty day and managed my first hefty Brown and Beauty 'Bow to hand on the ole " Metal Detector" 400 ....( bought that off of here;) Thanks Terrance , I am very pleased with your project my man!.... all of this before retiring to the bank to absorb as much of all as I may and rest my back...... ole Nick was picking them off left right and you know....talk about metal detector Awesome day Bro !! What I'm concerned about is what looks like an avian warzone / massacre site...just downstream of the Ogden area Poop factory , is a tiny trib / creek just slightly upstream of the train bridge on the west bank btween the river and Deerfoot , and Wow .....there must be 50 duck carcasses all throughout this small creek leading and feeding into the Bow ....and that is merely what i saw from the vantage point being the area I had croosed said creek at.... It was pretty erie and I couldnt really shake it..... and I am a Waterfowler through and through....so its like this.....Either someone sat for a morning with a shotgun (highly unlikely), or a flash freeze happened killing a ton of ducks (plausible) ..........or inevitably my fear is chemicals are continuing to be dumped into this tiny creek .....again this is between deerfoot and the river , between the calf rope bridge and the train bridge in Ogden ( near 50th ave overpass) on the west bank..... What say you ?? I am going to report this , not sure who to speak to , but this isn't right.....whatever it is , is in the mighty Bow as well... and testing should be done ....there are a lot of carcasses through there and is highly unnatural !! May this be considered my first alert and unofficial report to anyone about this.... Can you help me , or please point me in the right direction to solving this !!?! Thanks in advance! Jonathan

" Excuse me dude ,......i have it !"

Funny thing , I was swinging on the main river in Langley over the holidays....Derby Reach to be exact . So I'm pounding the water working with a skagit and MOW setup ....few headshakes , fail to set the hook properly with a fleshfly....have a gander upriver and a couple of hundred metres are a pair of fellas , one has a big ole spincast , the other a fly rod sitting on there hanger rod holders ....boys are just chillin by the fire and i see em jump up and run to the rods....there pulling em in left and right......15-16" cutts i manage to make it over to the fire and am relieved to get some warmth as were chatting.....the fly guy is showing me his " real" steelheaders reel , centerpin and all dragless....i was slightly impressed .....until this fella decided it was time to pull in his..."nymph" I **** you not , this fella had on his leader a Pickerel rig with some real eggs and spray on ...with a big ole heavy weight on the bottom ..........I couldnt believe what i was seeing....What a croc ! ..... nice guy and all , i still laugh when i think about it..........whats next

Through Hail in the summer , Rain and more Hail that day ! I have to say ......I think that was the most fun Ive had in a while , what a day!! Darren's sniping of Browns was awesome! Lunch on the river ( cafe style) , brews and a golden sun , on a beautiful bluebird ( at first ) day , swimming for Rainbows....sure is the life I have to lead in a metropolitan like this....God Bless the Bow ! Thanks Jay !

Hey Tom , if you pm Robert on here FFC , that boy will point you in the right direction Bro ! He knows his stuff when it comes to puters....best of luck man !

Hey guys , thank you very much for all of the input ! It is greatly appreciated....I haven't been home or on the river for some time now....starting to really miss drifting and being in the water ....won't be long now...Usually I bring my tying gear everywhere I go , yet this time I figured I would'nt have time . Was looking at buying a "new to me vice" off of here , yet didn't have the time to meet up and get my hands on it , nor another spey rod.....darn work! Been working so hard , happy to be back at er , that I have just recently ....last Monday the 19th , compression fractured my T-7 vertebrae ......OUCH . Crushed between a manlift and a 24" stainless steel pipe , up here in Peace River at the DMI Pulp Mill ! There goes my hunting season , and neverending fly season for a few months . Dammit.... Be careful out there, at work and at play ....lower your head one time , for one second and those hazards WILL bite !! It doesnt matter how many times you or I have done the task , 12 years I have been in my career and not one accident , other than merely "something got into my eye" , and the one time bit !!Hard.......medivacced to Edmonton and everything so they could decide wether or not to do surgery , thankgod they did'nt, anyhow...thanks for the input everyone , stay safe !

Ok I am back in town now . . And tooled up. I just bought another welding machine and am fully mobile. I am eager to help anyone out , who may require some metal working , fitting and welding . Give me a shout at (587) 226-0501 . Tight Lines everyone ! Thanks CJ. Jonathan