Sarah Palin

[Ricinus]

You guys have convinced me that you are right, she should be allowed to give her speech and if she crosses the line then go after her.

 

regards Mike

[BBBrownie]

From a fellow socialist, I can tell you the bold part from your comment is far scarier than anything Coulter is saying. At least I know up front that she is either (1) an idiot (2) a fairly brilliant comedienne.

 

"does not alienate"? Sorry Riley, but that doesn't even pass the smell test. Lots of things are said every day that run the risk of "alienating" people; surely you can't mean the word "alienate" as a proposed litmus test? Forget socialism, you want fascism, where the state likes their role in the Orwellian Big Brother.

 

As for "impinging on the rights of others", thanks but no thanks; that phrase is as nearly nonsensical and vague as "alienate". Freedom of speech, means all speech.

 

Now having said that, I'll switch sides and agree that in certain, unique circumstances, hate speech could be criminal. For instance, inciting a riot, inciting violence: as in Rwanda, where the evil was partly spread by hate speech broadcast across radio. Hang those guys, I say! (Or at least put them in jail).

 

But for the lunacy that is Anne Coulter? Show me where she actually has used her speech to promote violence, and I'll line up for the citizen's arrest. In the meantime, we should be far - FAR - more wary of so-called human rights commission that actually give a voice to people who whine about Mcleans magazine publishing an excerpt from a book they don't like, or taking a publisher to court, for the re-print of the Danish cartoons.

 

Ever see that video. Ezra Levant is brilliant in tearing the AB Human Rights Commission a new one!:

 

 

(more parts in the sidebar).

 

Smitty

 

Hmm...News to me, apparently I am a fascist?!? What in my words even hints at fascism? Did I say anything about corporatism? Did I say anything about assimilation- the only intolerance I may have hinted at is towards racists, sexists. Fascists don't accept different races, I believe that Anne Coulters crusade is more along these lines, putting down muslims, people of arabic descent becasue they don't fit her white american perspective. How does opposing racism or public forum for hate crime side me with racial assimilation, corporatism? Fascists are generally bound by ancestry, function as a unit- seems a bit of a stretch to link my comments to fascism. Hell, I believe in equal access, I don't understand why people would hate on others who are different, I love my country, but consider myself to be a global citizen.

I believe in the power of positivity and using our words for good . I do stand by my belief that we have an obligation to accept and treat others with equality, if not for society, then for ourselves. If you live with positivity and respect then you will live in happiness. The fishing kind of happiness...

Having said that, I realize that Annes event costs money, therefore not really a public forum, so perhaps it is not much different from a gangsta rap or dayglo abortions concert. Although my beliefs fall a long way from hers, I am not into censorship of private functions, perhaps I just wonder why anyone would buy into her brand of bigotry. I think your link to fascism was perhaps a bit hastey, this is a fly fishing board, most of us aren't here with an agenda!

[Smitty]

Riley:

 

"This is a flyfishing board"???

 

And? So? There is a reason they have a NFR forum - have you scrolled through and see what gets discussed here?

 

Anyways, relax buddy, I didn't call you a fascist. My link to fascism was based on the singular comparison that if there's one thing fascists love, its censorship, something you appeared to support in your post (and since have clarified, somewhat, yet you're still into censorship of public functions?? Why?? Its MORE important to have NO censorship in public functions). I'm saying if you support censorship, then, you do have something in common with that ideology.

 

Freedom of speech clauses aren't there to protect positive encouraging inspiring words from those like, say, Dr. King, its to protect those whose views we find abhorrent - like Ms. Coulter's. But I too wish society - particularly the media, would focus more on true leadership than what the latest potty mouth pundit can say in terms of selling their product.

 

Smitty

[TerryH]

Here are some words from the mouth of Noam Chomsky, one of the world's greatest pinko lefties -- even so, I couldn't have said it better myself.

 

"If you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom of speech for views you don't like. Stalin and Hitler, for example, were dictators in favor of freedom of speech for views they liked only. If you're in favor of freedom of speech, that means you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise."

[bigbowtrout]

All in favor

[reevesr1]

I hated that opinion. Terry should not be given a forum to espouse his revolutionary views. Freedom of speech for those who think differently? The horror. That could lead to freedom, and lord knows we don't want that.

 

So it came from a pinko lefty? Gotta love those pinko lefties. Bet your bottom dollar Rush never said anything like that!! Or Anne for that matter!!

 

 

 

 

[bigbowtrout]

Should I ban Terry?

[reevesr1]

I'd consider it, except he knows a lot about some of those southern streams. Tell ya what, let's go fishing with him, pick his brain, and then ban him!

[duanec]

so perhaps it is not much different from a gangsta rap or dayglo abortions concert.

and what a brilliant expereince that used to be...haven't seen them in a while though...

sorry back to the discussion about pinko lefties and banning terry

[BBBrownie]

and what a brilliant expereince that used to be...haven't seen them in a while though...

sorry back to the discussion about pinko lefties and banning terry

haha. I've seen them a few times in the past as well...

[TerryH]

Should I ban Terry?

Banned for quoting a commie pinko liberal?? No way. If I'm going out, it'll be with a quote from Glen Beck.

 

 

 

[DonAndersen]

But Terry,

 

Has Glen Beck said anything quotable?

 

Don

[hydropsyche]

Ever see that video. Ezra Levant is brilliant in tearing the AB Human Rights Commission a new one!:

 

 

Rightwing jerk. What kind of Canada does he thinks he lives in?

 

What a beautiful example of ideology gone too far.

 

[Ricinus]

Jon Stewart does Glenn Beck

 

 

http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily...010/#clip276647

 

Regards Mike

[Heimdallr]

Jon Stewart does Glenn Beck

 

 

http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily...010/#clip276647

 

Regards Mike

 

That was a choice clip my man.

[Smitty]

Rightwing jerk. What kind of Canada does he thinks he lives in?

 

What a beautiful example of ideology gone too far.

 

 

Totally disagree. Whether you agree with is ideology, the only thing that went too far was the human rights commission. I guess people don't really care whether or not gov't org.'s are overstepping their bounds, eh, Hydro?

 

Smitty

[TerryH]

But Terry,

 

Has Glen Beck said anything quotable?

 

Don

Hey Don, I'm still looking . Terry

 

[Smitty]

Would any of these qualify?:

 

http://ouchoutrageousobnoxiousandodd.blogs...uotes-that.html

 

 

 

[hydropsyche]

Smitty. I couldn’t find the sarcasm emoticon.

 

My second line should have given that away (HRC - ideology - gone too far)

[DonAndersen]

Smitty,

 

Nope - no notable quotes from Glen Beck there. Amazing the amount of money he gets from feeding Paranoia, Racism & Stupidity. Reportedly over $20 million/yr. I'm in the wrong line of work.

 

 

Don