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But Smitty, like I already said, I agree with giving small start-up businesses breaks to jump start their outlook and keep the economy running. But you failed to mention why CEOs of companies making millions upon millions every year cant afford to pay a higher tax rate than, say, a teacher. I still can't fathom how someone can supposedly be content with 25 million but not with 12.5 mill every year. And although again it can't be proved, I actually contend that CEOs of large companies, and all of those on their 'boards' are actually just parasites upon the economy, and don't contribute anything. I have heard of many, many companies in Europe which are employee ran and are doing QUITE well, without some CEO who pays himself off at the end of the year some ridiculous earnings while the people working for him barely make anything in comparison. I dont see it as moral for anyone to make more money than they can spend, while some ppl dont have enough, doesn't make sense to me. I applaud people like Warren Buffet, who only pays himself 200Gs a year or something crazy like that, has lived in the same house, owns one car, and on top of that has donated so much. Anyone who needs more than Buffet is just being immature and immoral. Theres a (IMHO) conspiracy out there that we need big CEOs to make this economy work, I differ. I think employees can run them just as well and manage all the business aspects as evidenced by other instances around the world. And really, how many people do you know who are one of those big boys making millions that came from nothing to work their way up through hard work? Its got to be such a small percentage, such a small fraction... most come from well-endowed backgrounds. On top of that, I doubt it makes any sense to say that a business man has ever worked harder than a construction worker or a teacher or a doctor... everyone can work hard in any occupation if they choose to, its just that some are stuck in low paying jobs. I dont resent wealthy people either. I just dont see why one wouldn't feel it was enough to make 4 million a year in profits.... makes no sense. Maybe thats just me. And why would taxing them a fair amount cause them to lose interest in making more money??? Someone would still want 5 million more than 4 million even if taxes were higher, so they would still work hard to make more wouldnt they? I dont quite understand that. yes, maybe rich people pay for our museums and art galleries and the such. But taxes pay for our hospitals, our schools, our pensions, etc. which are in dire need of more efficient spending as well as more money period. That money should be fairly coming from all, not unjustly, as it does now. Our publicly funded schools give all those 'hard-working' rich CEOs their education, which they use to their advantage and then think they shouldnt have to give back as much. I, you, everyone you know, pays for all these technological advancements and new drugs etc etc through our education system, then the companies want to reap all the benefits and charge us disgusting amounts for those drugs and that technology. Again, not fair at all.

I agree with almost everything you said, we do need taxes, im not for eliminating taxes, and a civilized place will have taxes. But the only thing you differed on was the statement I made that lowering taxes leads to recession, and I guess thats something we cant really prove or disprove. Well at least both of us didn't provide any evidence, and if we wanted we could probably find evidence for both sides. True the rich pay most the taxes, but percentage wise they pay an unfairly low amount. People makin 10 mil a year could pay 5 mil a year in taxes just like the middle class and still have their big car and house and whatever else they want to buy... i believe the lower you make the less taxes you should have to pay, and vice versa, up to a certain point. If millions a year isnt enough to feel like you made it or advanced enough financially theres something wrong. I agree that certain small companies and such need tax beaks to hire more people and pay their employees and keep their business going, but some of the profits you see from these huge companies are grotesque. PS all the economic courses in our universities are very biased towards capitalism... remember socialism is an economic theory as well, one that worked for thousands and thousands of years, and what capitalism always shifts towards once it starts to collapse. The best system is a capitalism/socialism mixture, which we've never found a perfect balance of so far, but isnt too far, IMHO.

laissez-faire capitalism has never once worked for any significant amnt of time... survival of the fittest or whatever you want to call it just doesnt awork for social creatures. On top of that, it just seems cruel to have at one instant someone sitting in a big house with a big tv wasting food while someone is still struggling to raise their kids working at 7-11. I'm not trying to start an argument or preach, I know I'm guilty of being quite materialistic at times, but no matter what you think government has to play a role in taxing the well-off for social programs to function. Less taxes on the rich and the big corporations leads to recessions and depressions, not to mention poorer quality of life for those not as fortunate to get the good jobs ..... IMHO

Wow what a memory... another great fishing story to add to your life right? Special things like that make life so much more enjoyable... can you imagine sittin inside watchin tv most your life???????? This is why we do this..

mannnn that river looks like a dream.... im guessin not a lot of pressure either? geeze....

In alphabetical order...

Keep in mind too that (like usual) the whole news story is based on the police officers account of the events... and that is all that there will be in the court case, the word of the police against the word of the kids...

The Game - LAX Nas - untitled Dwele - sketches of a man Sam Cooke - Live at Harlem square 1963 Lil Wayne - The carter 1

Again, Im gonna say it... someone develop some sort of software that decodes and fixes all of maxwells constant typos so we dont have to strain so hard and take so long to read each of his posts (which are always of course filled with so much great stuff). JUSS PLAYIN mang!

i.e. loyaleddie using a picture of someone with Down's syndrome to make fun of something/someone. I wasn't qute sure the nature of posting that picture but I'm assuming it was making fun of something... and thats what I thought was disrespectful. Anyways, not trying to stir the pot, just maybe suggest to be a bit more thoughtful when it comes to choosing to posts..

I dont like how someone is using a (sometimes) unfortunate and sad genetic condition to make fun of someone/something else... very disrespectful

Sorry for the misunderstanding - it wasnt me who wrote that but someone close to me someone I know very well. I myself havent tried any drug including alcohol (except for mushrooms once hehe). Thats the point and I agree with you - drugs can make u do some really bad stuff... stuff people regret and that is hurtful. But still, and maybe its just a fundamental difference, I dont think someone is a bad person who uses drugs. I judge whether someone is bad or good based on their moral code and the value of their heart. I know plenty of people who use drugs who have a strong moral code they live by and an unbelievably good heart. Anyways, maybe its just a fundamental disagreement on what is good or bad and if so its pointless to keep talkin about it.

Yea you are mistaken. I didnt say theres no free will, only its an age old discussion whether or not things happen due to free will or because they had no free will. I was just pointing out that there shouldnt be much of a discussion about why drug addicts come to be its just a fact that there are some, and I dont think it helps anyone to label them as bad or good based on their current or past situation. It is a glorious thing when people change their lives, that was sorta the point of my last post...these bad druggies actually are a lot of the time really good people who messed up. Reread what the guy said in my post - he hurt a lot of people made some bad choices. Hence yea, bad consequences. But still hes a great guy, and has helped a crap load of other people. So yea, I think I must not have made myself clear. I didnt mean theres no free will in the matter its just that its a pointless discussion of what is to blame, nature or nurture. Like you said I believe its a combination of both. But I was just trying to point out, no these guys arent bad people. And yea, to the original post, I dont know if the cops did anything wrong here, I dont know really any of the facts. Seems like most the story in the news is "according to police reports". Giving them the benefit of the doubt, they tasered someone who was brandishing a knife, sounds better than shooting them and maybe they didnt do anything wrong. But really really unfortunate someone died and Im sure all involved feel like crap over it. It seems simple minded to start labelling someone after they die as bad and deservedly dead, and his parents as bad parents, and the cop as a good guy for killing someone accidently. Its just all unfortunate and tragic.

From someone I know very well - I started shooting heroin in 1972 and stopped January 28 1990. I've been in jail in four countries, I've done amphetamines, cocaine, etc. Ive been seriously involved with a 12 step program for 18 years. I dont consider myself or my friends as being "bad people". After all the drug use I may have became "warped and twisted", but not a "bad" person. God loves all of his kids. I heard an old guy say that, that God loves all his kids, even the f*** ups. Jesus didnt come for the saints he came for the prostitutes, the sinners, the degenerates. "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." Jesus Christ, Matthew. This is all a philosophical study of determinism. Is there free will? Read Ivan Karmazovs dissertation 'The grand inquisitor' from the Brothers Karmazov. I made some bad decisions, some really bad decisions, that Ill regret to my dying day. I hurt my mom and my dad, women that I loved and who loved me, my children. I think most people have done things they regret. Perhaps, me more than others. "God grant that they may seek to forgive, rather than to be forgiven". I think if you met a lot of my friends and knew what they were doing with their lives, helping others, you wouldn't be saying they were "bad people". You look at drug addicts and alcoholics, and what you see is what is going on outside on the street, but inside, really, theyre tormented people, sick people. Were all brothers and sisters man, and the bums on the god damn street are too. How bout some compassion, some love... by the way, some of my friends in these programs are cops, no ones immune from these problems, it doesnt make them bad guys or anything else. Its all unfortunate, by definition, a tragic, thing thats happened. Im sure the cop feels bad about what happened, along with everyone else involved.

1. Yes, there is much scientific evidence that drug abuse and drug problems are influenced by environmental factors, but on top of that, genetic factors as well. So, the statement that anyone/kid who uses drugs is bad is false, unless you believe someone with a disease is at fault for that disease and should be labelled bad. You could make an argument (not that strong) that SOME people who use these drugs we deem illegal are "bad" (these are moral principles what is good or what is bad so you'd have a hard time defining this, since no one has been able to in thousands of years, but I know what you mean) but you CANT label ALL as bad or good just because they've used drugs. 2. Im not twisting anything out of whack! Dont make statements that when extended to a larger picture or another situation dont hold up - you said it , the kid deserves what he got for going against social conventions. If you dont believe it in all situations dont mention it. 3. I dont hate much - cops, politicians, banks. The people that hold the working class and people who dont have any power down. The scum rises to the top. 4. I never made the statement that drugs are okay, nor prostituting children to get drugs. I was just informing you that you live in a society where certain drugs are legal and illegal - humans havent always lived under the same laws, thus all the sudden when a law was written on a piece of paper someday anyone using those drugs wasnt all the sudden a "bad person". 5. The "studies" you're referring to about people starting on soft drugs then moving up the ladder are erroneous. Everyone drinks water. Of course someone who snorts cocaine might be more likely to try somethin a bit harder later on - but again thats likely a personality/genetic thing, not the fact that the cocaine/marijuana changed the person to include something more powerful later on. 6. I was only being hard because its a direct insult to me or anyone else that knows someone that has tried drugs or known someone in the court system to label them as "bad". Explore the world a bit, you'd see that a lotta really good people have done drugs and been f**** over by the police and the courts. 7. As far as police risking their lives, the career was recently listed in between bakers and tailors on a list of most dangerous jobs. Thats just statistics, so dont watch so much TV about police risking their lives for us all the time. Bakers and Tailors.

It appears that Sun, as well as a few other members, have a very limited and quite narrow idea/views about drug use. Less ignorant persons may understand that in many cultures throughout time the alteration of mental states is an important part of being a human being and growing as an individual. In our society we have selected alcohol to be the "acceptable" drug/toxin of choice to achieve that alteration, in the past (quite recently) opium and morphine and herbs and fungi were used to achieve these states. In more civilized cultures (the Chinese as far back as 2500 BC, the Egyptians even further) these euphoric, relaxed states were commonplace and sought after. In native tribes across the globe psychedelic drugs and others were used as part of ceremonial traditions and at times to heal people (even today most drugs are used for healing uses). Point being - that drug use has existed as long as mankind in various forms with different regulations. For someone to all of the sudden in their (less than 100 year existence) short life come to this planet and say that "anyone who does CERTAIN drugs THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN TO BE ILLEGAL is a bad person" sounds QUITE ridiculous. Even more ridiculous that someone who is 17 and drinks, compared to an 18 year old who drinks, is a "bad person" sounds even more ridiculous. And most ridiculous of all, to believe the ideologies that you've been subjected to in your upbringing that the only "drugs for good people" are the ones that European anglos brought/cultivated and the "drugs that are for bad people" are drugs originating from other cultures/races. I know you must feel that because you are such a "good" person you must have had some really great parents. IMHO your parents weren't very adept at informing you of the cultural and societal history of the human species and the importance of drug use throughout our existence. Your narrow-minded view of our current "western" ideologies being the be-all end-all of human civilization and what is ultimately going to be the ever-lasting society is unfortunate. Secondly, experts (doctors, physicians, nurses, EX-DRUG ADDICTS) will always tell you that alcohol and drug problems is a biochemical genetic problem, not anyones fault, not the parents or the persons. There are psycho-social influences of course but drug problems are a disease, not anyones fault. Why condemn these problems and not people with other diseases? If this was all due to their upbringing then the millions of children who went through the holocaust would have high rates of drug abuse, which is not seen, so it isn’t due to poor parenting or traumatic experiences or unhealthy childhoods that someone has drug and alcohol problems. AS FOR "GOING AGAINST SOCIAL CONVENTION warranting death" – this barely warrants a mention, but how can you make such a horrendous, incredible statement like this???? Did Martin Luther King JR deserve to be tasered (die) for going against social convention? Did all of the people who have ever protested for freedom of speech, right to bear arms, 40 hour work weeks, child labour, equal women's rights, etc etc deserve to be tasered (die)?? what the hell are you talking about man? Of course you didn’t really mean that?! As for being behind the most crooked part of society 110%, you must obviously not have any first hand experience of police lying through their teeth time and time again in court under oath to convict criminals. You obviously do not read the news where weekly there is another story of police here and in the US killing unarmed people (usually of minority). Shooting 45 times in the back, unarmed. Running people over, unarmed. Tasering and killing people, unarmed. It happens all the time. The people who strive to be police officers are at least partly searching for a sense of authority, wanting to control things, and that personality type (once that thirst has been quenched) usually leads to some messed up people doing messed up things to the people who cant defend themselves. Cops think they're so tough shooting black guys in the back, dropping off natives in the middle of Saskatchewan in the winter, when they have their guns out. Don’t get me wrong, there are some good cops out there trying to do good. But don’t mistake them for the majority and don’t forget and excuse their history and what they still do today. They were always on the front lines against the civil rights movement, and are the first tool in many fascist states to control the people. Like NWA said, F*** the police. Sorry to the good cops out there, but you're coworkers give you a bad name. And lastly man, show some frickin empathy. At least some sympathy. The parents had a kid murdered. For whatever reason, no one deserves to see that happen in a lifetime. God man, you must live a sad angry resentful life if you walk around thinking everyones "bad." Your mother should have hugged you more in your life.

I woulda thought they coulda smartened up a bit more 40 somethin years after Mowat's book... guess not http://news.albertawilderness.ca/2008NR/2080326NR.pdf http://cpaws.org/news/archive/2008/04/guns...ertas-appro.php yea, poison the wolves (and maybe other animals while you're at it) to save the caribou. mhmm... Friggin idiots

excellent... thanks. Geeze I really hope that once I start bringing a thermo. with me fishing that I can actually force myself to stop fishin.... EEK! I have a feeling my favorite river in late july gets a tad bit warm in mid afternoon, and Ive always thought if I should quit or not. I usually just stopped for a couple hours around 4... anyways thanks for that.

all the articles ive read about trout and fish in general also say dont use nets... ive never once used a net or needed to... BTW, its a little difficult for me to find articles online that give good info on when to stop fishing. All of them say as the water temp increases the mortality rate increases as well, but I'd like to have some sort of number where it gets out of hand... is there a water temperature that you guys stop fishing?

O it was just a circulating email thing, I didnt take the photos... woulda been awesome to have seen it tho haha

Evidence that when a moose gets drunk it'll settle for even less than I normally would...okay thats a joke. I go top shelf. but i thought this was funny...

I love school.......................................................................... .............. thanks for hurting my feelings Juss kiddin, makes me even more STOKED for summer jesus.......

WOOPS! I was working real hard on a lab report and totally forgot about it after planning all week on doing it! hahah oh well, its the thought that counts. Ill make up for that by takin the train to the store instead of driving once or somethin

where do u guys find all these pictures.... so great Edit: Never mind.. shoulda looked first...

Both anal chems were an easy A... For me at least But then again, I am somethin like a genius