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There has never been a incident of wolf attack in North America. Ever. Wolves are noble creatures. A New Avatar? And look nice on shirts.........

I used to live in hurricane country. Any time the government recommended or ordered an evacuation and the hurricane didn't come, it was because the stupid government overreacted and the media over hyped it. Any time the government recommended/ordered an evacuation and the hurricane did come and people get stuck in the path, the stupid government ordered the evacuation too late and the morons in the media did not do enough to get the word out. Oh, and anyone who did not leave and got stuck in their damn house had to be rescued-on the taxpayer dime. Seems to me the gov/media can't win no matter what they do. No matter the outcome it's their fault. Much the same about this flu thing. Depending on the story you read or person you talk to, the gov either is over reacting, under planning, or both. The the media is creating hysteria by reporting the story. I can promise you that no matter the outcome, it will be the media or governments fault. They are easy and convenient targets. Not saying they are not sometimes at fault, I am saying they aren't always at fault. And while I do certainly acknowledge their are worse things happening right now than H1N1, to say that the money would be better spent elsewhere is specious. The money spent on vaccines would never be set aside for some other reason, particularly charities in other countries. It is not the governments responsibility to take care of Africa, as horrible as that may sound. It's the governments responsibility to take care of us. If we want to impact starvation somewhere else, it is up to us to contribute to that. And I do by the way, it is an extremely worthwhile cause.

Unscientific, Thanks. Nice to read from someone on the front line. Hope you convinced some people that maybe getting the vaccine is in their best interest. But I doubt it. Too bad.

I think if you talk to Greg you would find that the final total from the online auctions were down this year fairly substantially. Could be various reasons: -Poor economy -donor fatigue -loss of community (while bigger, the board does not have the sense of community it once did, IMHO) My bet is the economy was the big driver in any loss of donations. Be interesting to see what happens next year. I donated a couple of prizes last year, but did not purchase anything. If the economy looks up, I'll still donate and probably buy something as well. I agree with the posts that we should not have to do this, but until such time as the gov't steps up I can think of worse places to donate my time and money.

Ahh, another subject near and dear to my heart. I used to facilitate different types of risk management meetings. I know I sounded sarcastic about the emotion, but as I've said on this board in the past, emotion clouds our perception of risk. It somehow seems worse, and therefore riskier, to some people to run the risk of dying from the vaccine than dying from not taking the vaccine. Don't know why that is, but it is.

Terry, Why should I listen to Medical Professionals on the subject of Vaccines when I can listen to Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carry on the subject? I mean, they are celebrities and well informed. Emotion generally trumps logic. This is a classic example.

Yes, they were in the Southwest corner. And no, I don't think you need to tell him. I think they were trying to revive their fish, it's just not easy. I've failed on at least one attempt myself.

There was a news piece (probably shouldn't use the word piece or someone might complain and close this thread) about a company that leases homeowners solar panels for 15 yrs and installs them. The owner they did the piece on had her power bills drop by 1/3, so her new bill and the lease rate were significantly less than her old power bill. But I don't think the panels did enough to allow her to sell power back. This was in the states, not exactly sure where.

That sucks. Good on you for calling it in, no use in questioning yourself in telling the poacher. No way you could have anticipated the outcome, so don't waste any time worrying about it. Hopefully good karma will dictate that the fly fisherman you met will turn into a new fishing buddy! And the poacher learned the rules, though I doubt that one. Not much of a man.

I'll still get my shot. Always a fringe element that sees the boogeyman in everything. I'm sure if Polio were still around this same crowd would be telling me not to get the vaccine as it's all a conspiracy. Can we set up an area on the board for Conspiracy Theories? Vaccines, Global Warming and renegade NHL bosses would then have a place to reside. Oh, my wife is a nurse too. Pretty sure she's taking the needle.

I actually meant Pythagoras as I saw a guy at chaparral fishing at one of the access points fly fishing with his kids. They got 2 while I was watching, the second was just huge and his son had a blast catching it! By the way-Please spend some time trying to help these fish recover. They ain't the toughest things in the world. Reviving them is frankly difficult because they are so damn hard to handle due to their size, but try your best!

Watched one get her life ended yesterday in Chaparral. Kid caught it, killed it, and brought it to his mom to cook.

Were you with your kids? Got out with my wife for a bit. Landed one, missed a few. Not paying enough attention. Micro-leaches for me.

Thoughts and prayers sent.

So when the refs are "against" the Flames and the Flames are playing a Canadian team, what exactly is the conspiracy? The NHL hates Southern Alberta? Do you think it is remotely possible that the Flames get more penalties called because they are a physical team and physical teams get more penalties? Nah, what am I thinking? There couldn't be a rational explanation. It must be a conspiracy.

Smitty, Pretty funny conversation, but I think the reality is a bit darker. I did some internet research and found that the NHL has had the referees neurological systems altered to enable the NHL bosses to actually control the motor functions (gotta be able to make that right arm go up remotely) of their referees. The refs also have a device in their vocal cords that allow the NHL to make the call themselves, but make it SOUND like the actual referee is doing it. Genius! And I can't confirm this, but I think a couple of the refs might actually be androids.

That's it. Back to the lake this evening! They may be stupid, but they are BIG!!!!

So I fish with a fly rod. Guess I should start my own board dedicated to it and leave all the fly fishermen to their own! There may be a couple of dozen.

But isn't a streamer really just a lure? Most often weighted, at least around here. So the only true fly fishing, I guess, is with a dry, emerger, or regular wet fly on unweighted floating line. I'd rather fish a dry as well. When it is working there is nothing in fishing that is better. Don't find streamer fishing any funner than nypmphs, but maybe that's because it is so similar to the fishing I've done my whole life, just with a shorter cast and much less effective. Particularly without a barb (just to make some reference to the original topic).

Hydro, The "assumption of intent" line wasn't in the least directed at you. I was just answering your line about the method of study. Sorry if you thought I was taking a shot. That shot was aimed very squarely at others. I could argue the yahoo lines, because I think that anything that equates fishing style with yahooness misses the point (or at least misses my point). But may just be defensive on my part because I still very happily employ some of the techniques used by these yahoos. And I can assure you that in many of the places I fish there is absolutely nothing easy about it. And I haven't spin fished flowing water because I've found fly fishing more effective. And in some ways easier. Just can't cast as far! And this isn't directed at you either...... Threads like this remind me that while I really like fly fishing, or maybe I should say fishing with a fly rod, I find some fly fishermen amazingly annoying.

Total hijack time. I've read Haig-Brown as well and enjoy him. I do find him a bit on the superior side however. Could be just me!

Wait a minute, you mean there are spin fishermen just as conservationally minded as the enlightened members of this board? Surely that cannot be? If that is true, just who are we supposed to feel superior to? This is a troubling development. I'm going to have to find a fly fishing magazine to read so I can rediscover just why us fly fishermen are superior. I know, I'll go re-read some Haig-Brown. He'll make me feel superior again. Fishin is fishin folks. Anyone who thinks one method is superior to another needs to give their heads a shake.

Very damn little, 'cept they are funner to catch on the fly rod.

I certainly have not read the studies in detail, but from the one's I've skimmed the fish handling and hook removal were all done by the same people. You could only study the differences if the people were the same. I would submit that the "yahoos" you are talking about would handle the fish poorly regardless of barb, barbless, treble, single. If your goal is for the fish to survive above all else (that is after you've stressed him out from catching him), then if the studies are correct, the type of hook is not all that relevant. If you don't care that much whether the fish survives, or do care but don't know how to handle the fish, then I would say the same thing about hook type. If your handling skills suck, or just not yet developed, then type of hook probably does not matter either. Anytime this subject comes up, there seems to be an assumption of intent. I think that in the majority of cases, there is no evil intent, just lack of knowledge. Or I choose to believe that. Makes me overall happier to try (and certainly not always succeed) to assume the best. I'm correct more often

Agree with most of above. One thing I will say, as an ex-member of a tipping industry- if there are many guides not claiming their income today and this system results in them having to claim, guide rates will undoubtedly go up. As I'm sure Brian will tell you, it's hard enough to feed your family on a guide income today. May not be an issue to some, but it will price some people out of the market resulting in fewer potential customers.