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I was just browsing around the http://www.canadiantubeflies.com web site at their saltwater and steelhead flies. Lots of good ideas there, and plenty of showpieces. I liked the Deceiver idea they have.

Did anyone report this to the Conservation Officers right away or not?

he he yeah they are all good versions of the bugger pattern and it likely matters more how you present than the pretty colours...

New Bulldog fly called the Pitbull From the original tyer (John K on the Flybc.ca forum) and he had a photo that went with it Recipe: Hook: Diachii 1270 #10/ Tiemco 200R #10 Tail: Burnt orange marabou, sparse, length of hookshank Body: 40% rabbit, 40% Icedub, 20% sealfur Hackle: #2 Grade Metz Microbarbs dyed olive grizzly Bead: (Fusion Beads) #8 Crimson Red Silverlined

government planninf initiatives like this are designed and used to restrict our rights by drawing in people to a user/government group and smother them with bs until they compromise us when the truth is there is often no need. More governence is hardly what we need. The recent years have seen experienced people retire in droves. Little wonder this kind of thing is now an issue with the green low levels of experience we have now.

In that if you wanted restrictions plasced on your fishihg opportunities, none would be placed on those of the guides and the non-resident activity and allocation would prove a real issue that has not been addressed properly in Alberta for fishing or for Big Game.

In that if you wanted restrictions plasced on your fishihg opportunities, none would be placed on those of the guides and the non-resident activity and allocation would prove a real issue that has not been addressed properly in Alberta for fishing or for Big Game.

if you ask residents who do not understand how their rights are about to be compromised with little value for us they will always hang themselves... Government plays this game with us because they want to be seen tobe managing by complex rules like their limited entry draws. They should always be questioned on this as the sole benefit is reaped by their lowered costs...not ours...and less effort and funding invariably goes into enforcement and PROACTIVE management. Government these days seems to play down and underfund those who are proactive and attempts to keep a focus on pretend management like this.

sorry but the illicit angling and big game guiding had little to do with this issue. The guide issue was settled by redefining the definitions for guiding for angling and big game hunting thus preventing the ridiculous activity levels - the classified water may have been a small help but very little.

After talking to Ed at Sheridan this spring, I tied up several chironomids on Tiemco 2457 size 14 hooks, filled the liquid lace green color with mineral oil, used a tiny bit of peacock herl and blackened grouse feathers for head/leg area with white antron behind the eye. Darkened the area from the eye back 1/4 inch or so with a Sharpie marker and set out for a lake with good rainbows waiting. Was surprised at the results: one 7, one 12.5 pound fish netted that morning. Now just have to find time to get back there...often Spoke with a few of the locals but not many are really into tying their own flies and when I showed them the tiny flies and what they caught, several are saying they will give it a shot this winter.

Being a classified water in BC is not what helped the Elk recover. It was a change in fisheries management with catch and release and lowering the kill rate there. Same with some of the other good water.

I like those ties. I recently bought a Nor-vise with the optional tube fly setup and may try some steelhead flies similar to your colors and materials that you have used here.

thought after reading this thread that I might try it this fall on several lakes. Many times the take is soft but this year in deeper water (64 feet) the takes by big rainbow were violent and several were not hooked. Thought trying these may help although I was using size 14 hooks with a decent gap already. (Tiemco 2487)

I am curious as to the brand, size and source for these, of circle hooks that one might use for chironomid fishing. For example I found only a few size 12 and 14 from Eagle with straight eyes...model L702 I think. Available at Cabelas.

Pardon my ignorance here Leroy, but what are the reasons for straight eye versus down eye versus up eye hook formats? I could see straight eye hooks tending to not sink so readlily for dry flies, however the logic of the other two excapes me. Thanks.

The regulations and river classifications in BC have their roots within a long term greening of the Fishieries Managers in BC. Far too much emphasis has been placed on managing for rare species and on use of the regulations with far too little in the way of proactive management here...as if regulations accomplish what we users want or think we want anyway...and that is part of the BC concensus protocol approach to managing our fisheries here. Far too much fear on the part of managers over firing up green groups and politcal meddling. I think if you can talk managers into not closing bull trout streams and not managing most of our northern streams just for them, implementing catch and release and fly fishing only where needed in place of the closed areas that plague us here you would be able to at least enjoy the fishery. One thing I learned as a biologist of 33 years in BC is that when it comes to major land use decisions a resource that is not used carries less weight in the decision process over time. This in fact is one of the tactics our BC Hydro has used for years, sometimes with success, to get their way with some of our resource-rich waters. This is not to say the classified waters as a concept are all bad. Just that you should be able to obtain your goals with government with far less meddling and taking your rights away via over-regulating.

After speaking to Ed Smith of liquidlace.com at Sheridan Lake a few weeks ago, and reading your positve responses here, I decided it is worth the cost. I bought a supply today and also went for a new Nor-Vise with all the bells and whistles. Ed was very helpful and showed me how he tied many of the patterns he used there using his Nor-vise. He also caught some very nice rainbows there!

Have him phone Ed Smith at Unique Fly Fishing Products in Kamloops. Ed distributes the liquid lace products and is an expert tyer who knows the Kamloops area very well, and knows how to fish chironomids also. Phone him at 250-376-6641

This may help - from the order form at www.liquidlace.com Needle Sizes required for "Micro" is 29G and for the balance of liquid lace 27G I do not see why one could not adapt a squeeze bottle with some thought and luck, but as others have noted it should not be too hard to obtain a plain old syringe either.

I was impressed with the product and the person, and would like your feedback. http://www.liquidlace.com

On the other hand there are already far too many black bear, so I would not fly that flag too green.

Why don't you post some photos of this blob/fly/orwhatitis so we an all decide for ourselves....like if it catches fish....

Our COs here in BC are armed, travel in pairs, and are trained well.

Surprises me when people try to discuss a subject like this they fail to see the bigger picture. NEVER should we compromise our rights. Instead all flyfishers should be more organised and willing to report the yahoos that are causing the problems. Heck you do not have to leave it to a CO or RCMP - you can also file and information with the RCMP if you know who they are. And do not think just because people have to pay the problems will go away. They don't. Take a lesson from the Conservation Officers' approach. Their job would be impossible to do effectively were it not for them cultivating a rapport with user groups and key individuals willing to report offenses. That in fact is the sole way in which their Report a Poacher program has any success or respect - that of public involvement, including that of the land owners...involving them in this also pays a big longer term bonus. Just my two cents.

Personally if I knew little about wader fit, i would be inclined to find a good shop with people that know what they re talking about, and support them for good service. A set of good Simms waders are just too pricey to take a chance on the fit buying online and the advice of a good shop owner could be a big help. Once a person has bought a set then you would be better equipped for the next time if you choose to do the online thing.