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You had best not embarrass yourself buddy. i contracted the work, supervised it and it is in the parks library. Dumb sucks may not have access as they often have an ulterior motive

pgk you are the one who should take a deep breath, gain some fundamental concept of ecology before you try to pass your BS onto educated folks. get with the train or do you really want to end up with a real job at the end of the day. My son and I just recently hired five professional biologists and I used some of the material here from your stupid rhetoric to sort out those we did not want to hire. As a matter of fact when I was a bio for the Parks in BC I did the same damned thing. Do not think too green or you may realise in time that people know the truth of it. Go figure on your own.

Mcleod, well said. You just hit the nail but more data is available to support what we are saying rather than the wannabe park biologists/planning types. Keep the thread consistent guy you are a help here.

and he actually does not know what he is talking about so why try to please his ego by gving an answer like that?

dream on pgk that is BS and not an argument

This is actually false, not true and Bull.

ACTUAL RESEARCH IN THE MK has shown the use of jet boat traffic in the area has had little or not negative impact. Yet another contradiction of your ideas.

You park planning types are all alike. When the first of the Protected Areas in BC were implemented including taking a huge area out of the Muskwa-Kechika and making a park out of it you wannabe biologists wanted to implement huge areas in the wilderness wherein NOBODY was going to be allowed to be there for any reason. That is Pure unadulterated truth as I was there. And after the fires burned low there was one less planner and we no longer had to worry about BS like this. Ecologically nothing is gained from leaving things to natural forces. Nothing is enjoyed by mandkind so there is no value to such areas either. I cannot beleive the bunk here, and you have even seemed to convince a few who have not enough biological background to know how to question you. Bizarre!

Northern BC actually in most of the remote areas have far too many grizzly. Our grizzly here are dependent on predation to maintain their numbers and people in the backcountry are experiencing what the greenies should! A totally dumb mis-management scenario.

Thanks for that Max. I had been planning to say something like that but it got lost, lol I guess that looking in my chironomid and nymph boxes I do the same with far less thought about it, since I normally tie more in the evenings after a day of fishing that are based on one or more throat pump samples. I seem also to do the same with nymphs even though from time to time a gold bead is used just because I am not in reach of anything else, and I have no evidence it makes a real difference or not, as you also mentioned. Last summer I tied three nymphs using Nymph Head beads with 3D eyes using the natural colors and all matched to stone fly nymph patterns. I fished those on the Columbia River in southern BC in early July and while I did get a few on them, once i got dialed into what really worked and where, the bead color did not seem to matter so much but only over a sample of 37 rainbow taken over one morning and three evenings .... and 8 of those were on a nymph with no bead at all. The better catches came later using caddis emergers and black ants anyway.

It appeared to me that indeed yours was also completely irrelevant to the topic.

I have heard from a reliable source that when fishing with chironomids, at times changing to a copper bead from a black, white or gold one makes a lot off difference in the rate of strikes. He as well as others have also mentioned that at times color really matters (not just with respect to the beads) but it is also known for certain that rainbow can become very selective on the size of fly they prefer. I therfor have no doubt there is a degree of preference by selective trout as to bead color as well, however i am less than certain of either the trigger for this or how consistent it may be. As mentioned before in this thread, a difference may be related in a variable related to how bright or dull the day is...or how early or late given high light intensity versus low light levels, dirty versus clear waters and all permutations thereof. A brght sunny day with clear water may cause shy trout to move away from presentations of flies that are too flashy while at other times in lower light or colored water they might like them. After dark when the trout are feeding on things near the surface film, darker flies may have the advantage as they will offer the most contrast against the background of a lighter sky if the trout are 'looking up' toward the surface.

I just cut strips off of white 3mm packing foam

This comment is reflective of the mistaken green view characteristic of students and planning people rather than the biologically sound view of those other than 'wannabe biologists' Give your head a shake guy.

Your narrow green view has to simply be better focused as you are going down the wrong path whethe you think so or otherwise. Best wishes with that but I am afraid in context this will lead you nowhere fast. If you are a student then it would be more productive to try to think through these issues from the perspective of what it is the public wants rather than what a Park Planner would want. Those two ideas are hardly the same in most cases as they are both based on subjectivity whether planning people care to debate that or not.

THen Student, consider yourself educated

I strongly support fishing in National Parks, and would comment that a lot of subtle pressure to deter fishing in some has potentially reduced the support for fish there to the planning level where there is no cost. That is ridiculous as we all know a fishery with no user support gets no monitoring or research support either. The park planner approach is to reduce public exposure to issues, not to improve it. These are indeed national treasures and for many of us feel government intervention as with our taxation system is totally out of control In BC in recent years, the green groups grabbed huge land areas and the first thing they tried to get approved was to have much of these wilderness areas set aside for nonconsumptive use. This was driven by our BC Parks Planners and was not supported by Fish and Wildlife staff at all, and was only pushed aside by properly informed public users who would have never thought to be involved unless these issues had been pointed out to them. An unused fshery resource over time becomes an unknown one with a slow increase in complacency and often results in loss not protection. Sometimes users are a good idea. Another issue I had with all this is they chose to ignore any specie except those that had rare and endangered labels and have since been aggressively managing for example, bull trout. In many of these wilderness areas there never has been a significant harvest and never will have particularly with their intervention of over-restrictive regulations. Those regs have since been seen to be not in the best public interests, and have given rise to support of closed seasons as well as catch and release regulations with some slackening here and there. One such area is the Muskwa-Kechika which is larger than any of the National Parks and has so little access and public pressure it is only reflective of Parks Planning Green leave it be than appropriate publi use perspective. Be careful what you wish for and do not agree to anything without understanding both sides, since we as Canadians have been giving too many of our rights away to glib tongue public planning processes thinking we are being empowered by a planning process to help make good decisions. This is not always the case. Mitigation=Compromise and where it is not really needed we lose our rights a little at a time.

That structure contravens the Federal Fisheries Act unless they approved it.. Also any pipe or culvert that is installed so it prevents fish passage up and downstream contravenes the Fisheries Act. How many people here have reported such structures to your provncial Conservation Officer Services?

I bought one of these Snowbee tube fly boxes a short time back and found it to be very good. Even larger might have been a good idea, as I normally keep the fly boxes in my seat in my Hyde Drift boat anyway, but this is nice and compact to put in my vest as well. I like the way you can leave it open and raise the flies to dry them. I use the space in the lid area to insert the rear half of my tube flies that hold the hook for those that are convertible flies mostly

What is the material you are using for the abdomen of the Stone as well as your caddis ties? Also, had you used weight for either of those? They look very good to me and I am sure they will fish well.

1. you did the correct thing, don't worry about it. 2. muskrats are indeed vegetarians. That being said, most people think cute little critters like squirrels, robins and others are as well.

a photo of it would help

Right on RICKR

1. don't beleive everything 2. why did you not report him?

Hot topic or not, the fact is that it too often matters little what you pay for an angling license or an elk, deer or moose tag, since the money goes into the black hole known as General Revenue and in times like these your wildlife, fisheries and your enforcement people are unlikely to see much of a change if anything. It is very much the case here in BC with the exception that for each license sold, the BC Habitat Conservation Fund gets some revenue....Most of that money is supposed to be directed toward the hunting and fishing resources in BC. In fact an ever increasing amount of it in recent years has been going into projects that do not do the consumptive users of fish and wildlife much good...and for you catch and release guys, good for you, but you get less benefit as well. If I were convinced an increase in license fees or new fees were assessed would actually be appropriately made use of for the resources I love then i would not hesitate to toss my money on the table. As it turns out I have to anyway...and I see most such things as yet another hidden tax...akin to the gun registry and the more recent ridiculous boater certifications. I think we Canadians as a whole tend to fall all over our feet when someone in government sells us with the right twist.