Taco Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Skipper/BIG_bluff.wmv and he did exactly the right thing in this situation...stood his ground, tough thing to do when your mind says STAY and your feets say WE'RE GONE Quote
Weedy1 Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 and he did exactly the right thing in this situation...stood his ground I prefer to call it shitting your pants. Can anyone here translate what he's saying? He seems rather calm, almost too calm. Quote
ladystrange Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 bad bear, no, go away... this is my tree, bad bear... ??? sorry no translation on the swedish/norwegian. although i'm kind of thinking trainned bear or stupid person... not sure which Quote
Guest bigbadbrent Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 if it wasn't setup...thats a smart person.. Quote
ladystrange Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 rather conicidental that the guy just happened to be wandering around the forest picking berries with a camera crew i was thinking stupid for putting himself there in the first place to take the chance that the plan would work. luckily it did, however... the alternative would have been a more interesting video... Quote
Taco Posted February 8, 2008 Author Posted February 8, 2008 Anyone catch the second bear in the beginning of the vid? Panicking and running would get you killed in this case. Edit; the second bear is a cub in a tree Quote
ladystrange Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 i saw the second one and was expecting the worse for the guy. Quote
Taco Posted February 8, 2008 Author Posted February 8, 2008 Those are european brown bears, same as our grizzlies but not quite so aggressive. Betcha that vid is shot in Finland, them Finns are stoic bastards and don't scare worth a crap. Quote
dryfly Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 I'm with LS on this matter ... "trained bear." Why? Okay ONE idiot I believe--the world is full of 'em ... although some get et. But they don't pay camera persons enough to hold their ground like that. That bear could have JUST as easily kept coming at camera guy and he/she never flinched. "Finns are stoic bastards and don't scare worth a crap." One would think that Darwinism has improved the Finnish gene pool by now Taco. Translation "stoic" ... an old Finnish word for stoopid. Real translation here.. Quote
birchy Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Ya just gotta punch the bear in his big ugly face! No biggie.. Quote
pokibear Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Trained bear, or not trained bear, I still would be crapping my pants!!!! Quote
Taco Posted February 8, 2008 Author Posted February 8, 2008 Mac MacKenzie (same guy who did the big bronze at Cochrane), all 145 lbs him put the run on a little 3 1/2yr old grizzly in the Flint's Park area of BNP back in the early 70's. Bear caught Mac walkin' across camp in the middle of the day and decided to run Mac off, making a series of bluff charges gettin' closer each time. Mac said later he'd looked around and there wasn't a decent tree for a couple hundred feet and then he got pissed off. He pick up a stick and on the next charge started hollerin' and swearin' and ran straight at the bear. That bear swapped ends and left so fast it was effin' hilarious, Quote
bigbowtrout Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Those are european brown bears, same as our grizzlies but not quite so aggressive. Betcha that vid is shot in Finland, them Finns are stoic bastards and don't score worth a crap. Finns are stoic bastards and don't score worth a crap. Amen Taco Team Canada all the way Quote
Tako Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Is this the lead-in to the bear defense thread? Pretty obvious that bear didn't have intent though. Tako......scared shatless of cougars Quote
snakeman Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 The speed of those animals nevers ceases to impress me, even in tight quarters they are fast as hell for such big animals. Cool footage. Quote
126barnes Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 yeah.........don't think I would be looking back at the camera with a semi smile if I walked up on momma bear and cub Quote
reevesr1 Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Here is what I think the setup is: 1 guy picking berries 1 Cameraman 1 Bear (of the untrained variety) 1 Bear Cub 1 guy, off camera, holding a big ass rifle Quote
Castuserraticus Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Give me a 1200mm lens to go with Rick's gun and I'd film the guy. When I was young and slightly more foolish I worked the rigs in northern Alberta. We had up to 8 bears at a time around the rig and camp because the garbage incineration regs were not in place yet. We harassed the bears quite a bit to try and scare them but it didn't work very well. I even stood in the flare pit and hit them with a stick if they got too close. I stopped when I saw a sow with cubs chase down a yearling bear that got too close. She ran right over 6-10 ft. trees and batted the other bear pretty good. One day we treed a young bear. Someone got the brainy idea to cut the tree down. When the bear felt the vibrations of the very dull chainsaw it climbed to the top of the mid sized poplar. When the tree fell, the bear bounced once and hit the track. A couple of days later we tried the same stunt again. It seems to have been the same bear because this time it was a 2 man job. One guy poked the bear in the butt to keep it up the tree and one guy was on the saw. I didn't notice my buddy with the stick had changed his mind about participating until afterwards. Apparently, the bear hung onto the tree just above my head. When the tree started to lean and I stepped away, the bear jumped down and went the other way. Our foolishness stopped shortly after. A couple of rig workers (a geologist and cook out enjoying nature) were mauled to death in northern Alberta and every rig was then required to have an incinerator. Quote
Taco Posted February 9, 2008 Author Posted February 9, 2008 Dogs treed a small black bear sow with a couple of cubs in camp quite a few yrs ago, one of the cubs only went up the tree about 6' and was hanging there, one of the guys we were campin with has a "here hold my beer and watch this" moment, went over and grabbed the cub by the scruff of the neck and pulls it outta the tree, the cub goes nuts starts squallin' and fightin' back. Mom hears all this and bails outta the tree bent on rescuin' her cub, she lands in the middle of the dogs who of course were intently watching the show and a helluva bear dog fight breaks out around Numbnuts knees. About this time it occurs to this guy maybe he'd better put down the cub and get the hell outta there but the cub ain't havin' nothing to do with the ground and tries to climb back up Dumb and Dumber's arm. And around and around it goes, one most hilarious shows on Dutch Ck ever. When it's all over the guy's all pissed off because we didn't rush in and rescue his ass. The guy still holds a grudge thirty yrs later...doesn't like me laughin' Quote
Castuserraticus Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 Dogs treed a small black bear sow with a couple of cubs in camp quite a few yrs ago, one of the cubs only went up the tree about 6' and was hanging there, one of the guys we were campin with has a "here hold my beer and watch this" moment, went over and grabbed the cub by the scruff of the neck and pulls it outta the tree, the cub goes nuts starts squallin' and fightin' back. Mom hears all this and bails outta the tree bent on rescuin' her cub, she lands in the middle of the dogs who of course were intently watching the show and a helluva bear dog fight breaks out around Numbnuts knees. About this time it occurs to this guy maybe he'd better put down the cub and get the hell outta there but the cub ain't havin' nothing to do with the ground and tries to climb back up Dumb and Dumber's arm. And around and around it goes, one most hilarious shows on Dutch Ck ever. When it's all over the guy's all pissed off because we didn't rush in and rescue his ass. The guy still holds a grudge thirty yrs later...doesn't like me laughin' I feel like Einstein now. St least I had a running chainsaw in my hand. Quote
annapolis Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 I tend to agree that they either had a big ass gun or it was a set up. I got bluff charged just outside of Revi and if my buddy hadn't been with me and grabbed a hold of my arm, I would have been dinner as I started to run, scared the crap out of me. Another one of my buddies had a run in with a female griz near williams lake and I showed him the vid, he thinks it's a trained bear. I consider him an expert as he has two large puncture scars on his shoulder and 3 on his leg, where the bear chewed on him a bit, let him go and ran away. Either way, it is a pretty cool vid. Cheers Quote
Taco Posted February 10, 2008 Author Posted February 10, 2008 To quote that fount of knowledge, Wikipedia; Unlike in America, where an average of two people a year are killed by bears, Europe (specifically Scandinavia) only has records of three fatal bear attacks in the last century Read up on the European Brown Bear guys, they don't behave as aggressively as our grizzlies in confrontations. Quote
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