jonny5

I like using a big foam fly instead of a corkie indicator, but the disadvantage is that a hopper dropper cannot be adjusted easily. So really, the hopper would just be an indicator... toothpick keeping it in place, no hook... if it started to get hits, then I would tie on a real hopper. Get it? Tried it out, and it works very nicely... still like using a hopper instead of a corkie. Jon

Ewwwww sick! Good jokes, love the one about the short armed italian

WOW! those are some really nice fish! Might have to "catch a cold" and have a sick day soon, but the river looks like pooh where I went by it today... I am guessing these were caught in the grass mostly.?!? Quick(ish) thought here: Someone on this board mentioned using a center pin (can't remember who)... anyways, this would seem to be a perfect time to use it... if your interested in giving it a try in this high water let me know, and maybe I would be able to join you and help you out with the drift gear terminal tackle and might just bring out a drift rod my self... Jon

Heres a link to the murder that happened in 1999 of a BC couple. I remember it because I was passing through when it happened, and was shocked to hear how it ended with a couple of american kids being responsible. Again, a tragedy, and they sounded like a great pair of people, but don't think that everything bad that happens in mexico is because of the evil mexican bandido. BC local news On that note, if anyone is going on a road trip down the baja, get in touch with me, there were a few stops that I could recommend. For the most part, everyone I met there was awsome, even had some carollers come to my camper on christmas eve. haha.

Belize is a totally different situation. I would NEVER venture out of a hotel in belize city at night... thats just stooooopid... On the islands its way more relaxed but b.c. is a very racist (anti-whitie) violent city. As for the drug smugglers killed, well, thats just the business they are in.

A tragedy really. This could have been a troll, but....sundance fisher you should think before you write a racist post in a public forum... it speaks a lot of your attitude and understanding of people outside of suburban calgary. Anyways, there was a canadian couple killed in mexico (Baja) when I was there in 1999. Guess who did it? A couple of young americans. I guess that means that all americans have no respect for human life? As for the police there... well, they aren't great, but there are a lot of drugs passing though to the usa, so they have to be tough or risk getting slaughtered. Enjoy staying in calgary, I will keep going to mexico, its a paridise for bandidos and gringos alike. Jon

Hello fishers, just had a brilliant idea. Since I don't like fishing indicators, but like nymphing shallow water with light flies, anyone ever tie up a hopper on a tube fly? Never tied a tube fly, but I think it makes sense to use a hopper as an indicator, and if it gets hits, just put a hook on. anyhow, if someone has used it, or has pics I would like to hear your thoughts. Cheers, Jonny

As Brent said, bigger is not always better... Stabbed in the brain, or in the mouth out the eye. How many have caught one eyed fish? Bigger hooks catch bottom more easily as well. I don't use them unless they are catching fish, which is not too often for me.

Just came back from a bike ride, and am was please to see people cleaning up the city section of the bow, the nose creek, and the canal almost the whole way to chestermere! HUGE amount of cleaning getting done, don't know who they were, but they had logos from www.pitch-in.ca Good work to those hundreds of volunteers, whoever you are! Its nice that that stuff is off the banks before runoff. Jonny5

Its a true story, I was there.

Yep, 2 inches of sewage in the meat and fish department sounds pretty fawking gross! Not feeling so terribly great right now actually... must have been my lunch.

Excellent! Was expecting some one to say "FCP" haha, but probly will try TnT or the one on 16th

Hi fellow fishers, do any of you know a source of dried seaweed in calgary? Preferably pre-mixed but if not a few different varieties? mmm seaweed salad! Thanks J

Thats an interesting setup... how did it work to cast fly line? I have heard that people can cast light jigs pretty nicely with a light line, but never heard of anyone trying a floating line... maybe if you shortened it a bit it might be easier to get the line out of the rod so theres no backlash? Maybe I will set one up to to play around with if the weather gets too cold for fly fishing.

I drift fished a lot when I lived on the coast. not on a cp but using bait casters. Its pretty similar except a cp is a smoother drifting reel with slower retrieves. Drift fishing works really well at getting deep fast, and as far as I know anyways will always outfish a fly rod in certain waters. (ie fast, deep water) Seen it on the bow, and they guy I saw did pretty well using a small pink dink. I would try it if the bow wasn't so good for flyfishing PS on the west coast, center pins are becoming really popular (trendy even) but the only real advantage I can see is that they are very simple and thus won't break if you treat them well. And of course the really old people use them cause they never needed to buy new reels over the years... so they must be well built. And as silverdoctor mentioned, line mending is important for a good drift... just like nymphing. Bad drift = no steelhead.

I was thinking elbow river in the city... its an absolute mess some times. Should clean up nice with runnoff though, and then dirty up again with the rafters droping their empties in the river. Never found much trash on the mountain streams... at least where I have been. Tonnes of Sh!t on the elbow and bow... Or on second thought, fish creek itself? But I never fished it. I heard there aren't any fish in there And probably pretty clean considering a lot of it is in a park. Nose creek? Pulled a few weird items out of there a while back... Might be a nice project stream?

Is this going to coincide with rivers day? I have always done clean up in the city section on that day... But as mentioned another river might benefit from some clean up...

Is there no City fido plan in this city? 40$ a month unlimited use? I had that before I left vancovuer, and it was pretty sweet as I didn't bother having a land line. Check if it is still offered.

Rickr, your welcome? haha, not directing my comment at anyone in particular. My point is that most people I meet fishing are pretty much stand up people... sales or not... Cheers, El cinco roboto.

I tend to take the opinions of strangers with a grain of salt... But if someone has a product they REALLY endorse, it could be worth a look, ask around with trusted people that have experience ect... So if people are really marketing on the forum, let them. Disclose if they want to, and if they are sneaky or underhanded, reputation will eventually catch up with them. So far most of the big talkers here seem to be pretty upfront as far as I can tell... It ain't rocket surgery, it's just fishing! El cinco Here's a good question for you fishers stuck at home cause of the weather: What do you think of people selling rods off for a chunk of profit, that they get on guide discounts ect?

Heres a list from 2000 present. As follows: Date. Organization, Province, Amount, Type of grant. So of interest, yes they funded $10,000 to the grizzly bear society in 2002 and again in 2005, but also bow riverkeepers $10,000 in 2007, a population study for eastern slope bulls trout 2004 for $6429, Friends of fish creek $4000. If you miss eating grizzly steaks, then maybe MEC needs to butt out, if you like fishing, they are contributing quite a bit. Speaking of which, if Don Anderson is interested, he could apply to MEC for a grant to get that population studying and water quality monitoring equipment (since the federalez have not mann'd up for the bill)... You never know it might fly. 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Yeah, an interesting point about MEC, but I don't really care what one person thinks about MEC. They (MEC) do provide a lot of leadership in conservation related activities, and that is worth a lot more to the fishing and hunting community than one guy pointing out that they donate money to conservation groups. Without some degree of concern about conservation (and a whole lot of money) you would have polluted, fishless rivers running as ditches through parking lots.

Great news for my home river!

I find the elbow a lot tougher to fish than the bow as there are not many fish in there, but it can be OK later in the year (as in a couple of fish in an evening is great). Never thought to try it in the winter.

Good points here Gopherboy... I agree that it is unacceptable to fudge the numbers or find "convenient" data sets. But this still leaves the question of who and how to get a reasonably accurate estimate of population from year to year. Having these data could be of immense value to fisheries managment types, but data from every 10 years is not enough (especially with huge error bars), but they don't seem to have the resources to do the study every year, so the question remains: Who and how? I would love to hear some practical suggestions from anyone listening. Cheers, Jon