DonAndersen

Ah gee... The Conservative need Stelmach for at least another election. They need a fall guy like Getty before him and Strom for the SC's prior to that. Then they can remake the party like a snake shedding it's skin, a white knight will arrive from Calgary and the whining from the south will rapidly die away. After all, Calgary believes that it is their God Given Right to anoint Government Leaders. If Stelmach has got 50% - another leadership campaign would be underway with the Wildrose breathing down their necks - not good If Stelmach had got 90+% - the Wildrose would've been seen as a non-issue. Can't have that with all the sucking the Wildrose is doing on the Oil Companies So - the Conservatives did exactly the right thing. Come on - you can't make me believe that Honest/Steady Eddy ain't a fair trade for Ralph. regards, Don

Flyfishfairwx, Both my elbow and shoulder have got cortisone twice. I've heard about the pain - never experienced it - instant relief. Don

If Ralph Klein was the answer, it was a lousy question

"Beam me up Scotty - there is no intelligent life here" and "Wanted a meaningful one night stand" Don

Your license should be revoked if: 1] you honk your horn except in cases of emergency 2] raise your index finger for any reason. Then you should be thrown over the border - any point of the compass will do. Don

No way seniors should be licensed. I'm less than 10 months from the freebie I've waited my whole fishing life for. It's mine and I want it. Now why in the devil would you pick on Seniors - we can't cast as far, reflexes going, eyesight about gone, hearing is weakening. We can hardly cast let alone fish. And from a personal perspective - I'm left handed [ the world always picks on left-handers], got arthritic knees and hips and I fish with a wooden stick and YOU WANT MAKE ME BUY A LICENSE. Plus - I don't even have a fixed income yet. What is world coming to!!! The only thing I got going for me is low life cunning and that's going with the memory of what Wolfie said or meant or...... Don

Cortisone - works every time. Don

Boy, Does this discussion ever represent a drunken Saturday nite. Lurching all over the place. Guess I should've tried a poll!! Don

Folks, Below are excepts from a story done by CBC on the speech Duckett made Monday. I copied and pasted what I "think" is pertinent. The big question is: Should he be fired? Don A vaccine shortage forced Alberta to abruptly suspend its clinics Saturday. Health-care workers were also overwhelmed, Stephen Duckett, president and CEO of Alberta Health Services, said Monday. Duckett said that when clinics reopen, they will initially only serve priority groups. Those people wanting the H1N1 shot will have to show ID to prove their age, and prescription drug containers to establish chronic health conditions. Details of the clinics reopening will be released Tuesday. Duckett apologized again on Monday for the long lineups at clinics in the past week but said he would change little if given the chance. The clinics were initially intended for only high-risk groups, but when the general population began showing up in the lineups, health workers couldn't do impromptu screenings, he said. Albertans will have to prove they belong to priority groups to get their H1N1 vaccinations when the province's clinics reopen. A vaccine shortage forced Alberta to abruptly suspend its clinics Saturday. Health-care workers were also overwhelmed, Stephen Duckett, president and CEO of Alberta Health Services, said Monday. Alberta Health urges these groups to be immunized: * Pregnant women. * Children six months to less than five years of age. * People under 65 with chronic health conditions. * People living in remote and isolated settings or communities. * Health-care workers involved in pandemic response or the delivery of essential health-care services. * People who have contact with people who are at high risk but who cannot be immunized or might not respond to vaccines. Hours-long lineups clogged Calgary's five clinics last week. Alberta did not limit the vaccination to high-risk groups, including pregnant women, young children, people under 65 with chronic health conditions, as other provinces did. Duckett said that when clinics reopen, they will initially only serve priority groups. Those people wanting the H1N1 shot will have to show ID to prove their age, and prescription drug containers to establish chronic health conditions. Details of the clinics reopening will be released Tuesday. About 190,000 doses of the H1N1 vaccine remain in Alberta, he said. Provinces are receiving more shipments next week, but final numbers have not yet been confirmed. Manufacturers are slowing down deliveries to focus on producing adjuvant-free doses for pregnant women. "During the next two weeks, we will refocus our efforts on vaccinating only those at high risk. And over the next two months, as our vaccine supply increases, we will fulfil our obligation to vaccinate all Albertans that so choose," Alberta Health Minister Ron Liepert said in the legislature on Monday. Alberta Health Minister Ron Liepert, left, Dr. Andre Corriveau, the chief medical officer of health, centre, and Premier Ed Stelmach meet on Monday. Alberta Health Minister Ron Liepert, left, Dr. Andre Corriveau, the chief medical officer of health, centre, and Premier Ed Stelmach meet on Monday. (Government of Alberta) "That is a commitment that this government has made and it will stand by." Liepert has come under fire for Alberta's H1N1 immunization program, with Alberta Liberal Leader David Swann calling for the minister's resignation or dismissal on Sunday. Liepert did not say much to reporters after he was summoned to a meeting with the premier and chief health officer on Monday morning. He said Premier Ed Stelmach was simply looking for an update. Official explains rollout Duckett apologized again on Monday for the long lineups at clinics in the past week but said he would change little if given the chance. The clinics were initially intended for only high-risk groups, but when the general population began showing up in the lineups, health workers couldn't do impromptu screenings, he said. 'How do you tell whether someone has a chronic condition, in the open air, with no privacy, at the start of a huge lineup?'— Stephen Duckett, Alberta Health Services "How would you assess people who didn't come with evidence that they had a chronic condition? How do you tell whether someone has a chronic condition, in the open air, with no privacy, at the start of a huge lineup?" Not screening everyone also allowed the lines to move more quickly and avoided confrontations between health-care workers and the people accompanying a high-risk friend or relative who were also seeking the shot, he added. Calgary Liberal MLA Dave Taylor dismissed Duckett's explanation. "If privacy issues were a concern, why not make vaccines available to family doctors in their general practices to inoculate their own patients?" Taylor asked. 14 H1N1-related deaths in Alberta Duckett said he's pleased 372,000 Albertans have been inoculated so far. Dr. André Corriveau, Alberta's chief health officer, said no one died of the swine flu on the weekend, but 24 more people were hospitalized. So far, 14 people have died in Alberta after contracting swine flu and nearly 300 people have been hospitalized. Over the course of a normal flu season, one in 10 adults and one in three children will catch the flu. Health Canada says between 4,000 and 8,000 Canadians — mostly seniors — die from pneumonia related to flu and many others may die from other serious complications of flu.

ÜberFly, I have a Nautilus, my wife a Mustang. Both are built by CDN companies and have DFO approvals for non-powered craft. Both are available in CDN stores. Get it - buy CDN. The DFO approvals are key. The stuff that Cabella's + others sell have US Coast Guard approvals but not DFO approvals. The Cabella's stuff is illegal to use in Canada. Don

Wolfie, I would expect that a lot of people would share your frustration of only 2 officers but: 1] unless you personally fund more - it isn't gonna be more than 2 2] the folks like ADC and Clive have worked hard along with the online auction folks to raise the funds they have. 3] The Govt is no going to spend another $ on enforcement. Get it - NOT ANOTHER DOLLAR 4] unless those that care get off their butts - nothing gets done. And finally - when all is said and done, there is a lot more said than done. catch ya' Don

wtforward, And here I thought it was controlled by the same dunderheads that are handling the H1N1 clinics. Your line ups in Calgary are nothing. We have no line up. The hinterlands don't see a clinic for 3 more weeks. catch ya' Don

Sun... Neil is right!!! Write like a Sun newspaper article - 5>10 lines - no big words, vocabulary for a 8 year old. Don

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Sun.... Fear mongering it isn't. Beef sellers are required to wean their cattle off drugs some time prior to selling. If I recall correctly the time is about 2 weeks for the drugs to disappear. Mind you, cattle rarely breathe where the drugs are washed to unlike fish that are kept in pens. I'd suspect the drugs keep going around and around. I wonder if your supplier does the same. I certainly wouldn't want one of those latte imbibing soccer Mom's hot on my butt after killing one of her kids. Don

Edited - double post Don

And a further thought. A lot of these pen raised fish are subjected to various types of hormones, steroids and disease fighting drugs. You'd best check with your supplier to see when he "weans" the fish off the drugs. Otherwise, you'd should add to Your C&R missive - Eating one meal of these fish may cause injury or death in people with drug allergies.. Don

Sundance, You might want to read the below. After 30 seconds - things aren't good. Big fish are really stressed and their survival rate drops. You might want to reconsider the stocking of fish in excess of 4 lbs. thereby ensuring higher survival rates. Don Physiological Effects of Brief Air Exposure in Exhaustively Exercised Rainbow Trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss): Implications for "Catch and Release" Fisheries R. A. Ferguson and B. L. Tufts Abstract: Rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss) which were air exposed for 60 s after exhaustive exercise initially had a much larger extracellular acidosis than trout which were only exercised. In both groups, however, plasma pH returned to normal by 4 h. Blood lactate concentrations were also greater in the air-exposed fish and continued to increase throughout the experiment. During air exposure, there was retention of carbon dioxide in the blood, and oxygen tension (Po2) and hemoglobin:oxygen carriage (Hb:O2) both fell by over 80%. After 30 min of recovery, however, blood gases resembled those in fish which were only exercised. Finally, survival after 12 h was 10% in control fish and 88% in the exercised fish but fell to 62 and 28% in fish which were air exposed for 30 and 60 s, respectively, after exercise. These results indicate that the brief period of air exposure which occurs in many "catch and release" fisheries is a significant additional stress which may ultimately influence whether a released fish survives. Web address is: http://rparticle.web-p.cisti.nrc.ca/rparti...mp;msno=f92-129

BRB, After more than 30 years the Alberta Fish and Game taught us that beating one's head on the wall doesn't do anything for either your head or the wall. AF&G has pestered the Govt for 30 years to hire more. Nothing was done. The only way to get more enforcement on the ground is to do a Public/Private partnership. So Streamwatch was born. Now there are 3 and sometime upwards of 5 more enforcement folks out there in the Eastern Slopes. Depending on Govt keeping the enforcement slots filled, this may increase enforcement by upwards of 25%. catch ya' Don

Begineers - Ba' Humbug!!! A battery operated vac. Get with the real tiers!!! I use an industrial shop vac. and still end up with feather/hair/wire trimmings in the upstairs rug. catch ya' Don

Sun... You should spend some time out talking to landowners about landmen. It's enlightening. There was no misunderstading on my part. Case one: They lied Case two: The supplied incomplete documents with their package then lied Case three: He lied. 3 for 3. I'm fairly positive I reflect dealing with most landmen. Don

jononfire, Don't do it. Tying, while allowing you to experiment with patterns or for that matter invent things, generally takes over one room, then 2 rooms, spreads hooks on the floor, gets marabou in your salad, infestations of bugs in the woolens, causes your "friends" to constantly whine about needing more flies, skinning road kill, and in the end, doesn't save any money. After I took an inventory of the materials for insurance purposes and it went over $25,000, I realized I had a monster by the tail. You're be better off drinking beer/chasing women and buying your flies. You'd be money ahead. catch ya' Don

Sundance, I've had three contacts with landmen arranging for seismic, drilling leases and access. They are batting 3 for 3. The first contact was on some land we owned SW of Calgary. Landman told us that they would do the spread in November with inspection to be done in early December. Well, it was the following spring before the spread was done. Took a phone call to the energy company to get that ironed out. The inspection revealed a collapsed shot hole big enough to fit a cow. Took a number of phone calls and pictures to get it filled in. The second was on some land where we were advised via a package that a company wanted to drill a well. The package detailed a number od documents that were to be provided. Took some time to get the documents. Then the package poorly described the well and surface facility. That took another meeting with their facility engineers to get that straight. In this case, landman contacted us regularly to sign up. Ya' right. And the last was the blustering threats by a company landman not to allow us access to Ironside pond and not to hook up to the power line. In this case, the landman was a senior landman directly hire by th company. When the law with regard to access was pointed out to him + the fact that they did not own the powerline, he disappeared. In two of the three cases, I did not receive any compensation nor was any required. Sundance - you should get out more often. regards, Don

Folks, If you think it's bad now, you should read the book. Between 100>200 mmcd/d went to flare. After 1952, with the installation of a sulphur plant, sulphur recovery increased from 0>75% of plant inlet. Field operations still @ 0 %. Fuel gas for local communities was sour - of course - the gas that went to Calgary was sweetended [some things never change!!] And for those involved in the business, the lay-offs happened every few years and curiously were not the result of the NEP/Trudeau/Stelmach but the result of market forces. Driller made $4/day - carpenters $20 - gambling was legal - sporting gals were not. Two doctors for the whole oilfield - one delivered my wife, both sewed up my brother and me. All in all, a good read and one that should be required for persons entering Alberta. Then they'd have some appreciation of what the oil/gas business is all about. Seems like now it's about double lattes and leather for pickup seats. catch ya' Don PS - I'm with jksnijders on the oil vs land issue. Been on both sides of the fence - Big question is "Do landmen ever tell the truth?" From the many contacts I've had with them, haven't seen it yet.

But if guides are licensed, how do you get rid of them when the fishing pressure requires that the recreational use of water is just that recreation? Paying a license just gives them a sense of entitlement. Clearly though - compensation is required for recreational anglers when their use of the resource is compromised is by guides and mitigation when guide's clients pack bugs and diseases into Alberta. Isn't there enough fishing pressure already? Why not just ban them? catch ya' Don