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Do they really own the bed and banks... how long have they had that place??

He's a nice fish, but a bit small for a bull.

I've brought a 2 pc on West Jet, no problems. Just check it as fragile/special (I pack mine in a taped PVC tube). The 3 wt would be good for dries an mountain streams if you want to risk bringing it. The 5wt should do the same job though. Streamers on the 5 wt (and 0x tippet/leaders) will get you some bull. And it will be fine for nymphs and dries on the Bow and Crow. The 9wt is big for bullies (the average ones) and not worth bringing on a short trip. For Shops, you'll be in the airport on the North side of Calgary, driving south to High river... you'll be able to hit most of the shops with little detour. Bass Pro just north of the Airport in Airdre (if you're into that kinda thing); Wholesale off of the Deerfoot (at Glenmore I think); Westwinds off of Southland to the west of the Deerfoot), Country Pleasures off of Macleod; Fish Tales off of Macleod; SouthBow off of Hwy 2 (Southbow Fly & Tackle Ltd. 430, 412 Pine Creek Road Dewinton, AB, T0L 0X0 Tel: 403-371-7531); and Fly's Etc in High River (is it still around?). They'll be able to help you with the flies and hatches, but the basics will work too... elkhair caddis, hoppers, adams, etc

Your 5 wt is perfect if you are limited. Lots of good guides, and folks on here that may wanna go fishing.

Not to hijack the thread... Wolfie, there is alot on stream access here: http://flyfishcalgary.com/board/index.php?...able+waters+act Fishing regs are a different ball game. This is a very interesting thread... I wonder how the catch rate is affected? The flies still attract, but do you have to be more senstive to the take? Would downstream presentations result in the same hook-ups?

Come on... who was it??

Dead topic.... I know. One thing though... angler stats don't include people fishing over the age of 65 in Alberta... with the change in demographics that may be a factor in the #'s seen on the river. And Rightyeeqs, I debate with myself all the time. The point was that: Number of anglers don't equal people caring about the river.

See post 20 http://flyfishcalgary.com/board/index.php?showtopic=9381

Funniest things I've read in a long time!!! Thanks!

Mike, Great concerns; Could you please send this to Cory Wojtowicz at SRD- Forestry in Blairmore? cory.wojtowicz@gov.ab.ca Wojtowicz, Cory Forest Officer Lands - Forest Operations Sustainable Resource Development Box 540 Blairmore, AB T0K 0E0 Phone: 403 562-3135 Fax: 403 562-7143 E-mail: cory.wojtowicz@gov.ab.ca

Only a couple more days till the InLaws are down... can you last that long Ray?

I'm not worried about what you'd say Lynn... just concerned about the 570 other viewers of this thread. You'd make a great ambassador of the site... well if you caught more fish anyways

Just don't start crucifying one individual for a few years of built up crap... Name, number, and address on an internet forum may be over-the-top. If you end up calling, make it polite so as not to give a bad name to fly-fishers in Alberta (and this board). You don't want the RCMP involved, even if she's in the wrong.

Another Great Reason To Leave Fish In The Water!! Grip and Grin by Brett Colvin and Jason Morrison Page 77 Issue 18 http://www.thisisfly.com/ Also check out page 45 in issue 17!! Get a Grip ReVisited (And down eyes on a fish is a good thing) I've been trying to keep track, and quick played, less tired fish have down facing eyes.

Robert, I haven't said much to the contrary of what you've said... I pointed out the thread on the west coast to demostrate that folks here, looking at these topics don't agree and don't want to change. There are people who will read this and may make a decision tonight at the supermarket. If BC Salmon fisheries shut down (commercial or rec?), like you asked, folks would focus on farmed fish and other fisheries (Arctic, US, Atlantic, Southern). There are fisheries all over the world abusing the resourse... any one would be happy to fill the niche lost by BC. Of course, unlike Cod (the fishery shut down in the Atlantic), Salmon can be dumped into rivers to support all the fisheries, commercial and rec. Cod couldn't be artificially propagated. I said similar and dissimilar. Salmon can be artificially propagated and legislation is already in force (not always enforced) to protect the young... giving them a much better chance then cod ever had. I also mentioned gear selection alluding to trawls destroying the bed. I also mentioned early research was required... we need to know so we can change the rules about the harvest. Not sure what you're saying here? A moratorium would improve salmon stocks, but that's not the issue. Regulations can still work if applied before salmon reach a critical low... of course pacific salmon die when they spawn, so it is much different then cod that need to spawn again and again (salmon pops can be quick to react, making it easier to manage in the short term... cod needed long term management). Inland freshwater fish farms can still produce trout for the table, and Canada has an abundance of other protein sources (but I hate soy which requies too much irrigation... not as much as I hate Sod... stupid generation of instant gratification, I think watching grass grow is great). Changing fising requires money for gear. Also an abundance of fishermen does not change what the regulations are. Good set regulations will protect stocks irregardless of number of fishers. I agree completely, I'm just in a mood to argue BC's mismanagement can be corrected before its too late. The Atlantic situation crashed, but was identified years ago... a difference may have been made, but it could have been too late. Unfortunately. There are more small cars on the road... all it took was gas hikes followed by a worldwide economic crisis. There are simple (complicated) solutions. Exxon has finally invested in algae produced fuel (announced just this week). Exxon had previously reffered to biofuels as "Moonshine". That's change. I'll bet the number of EnergyStar appliances in Canadian households is increasing exponentially. Solar panel technology has made huge leaps (great new flexible solar panals being produced, and the technology to produce ultra thin film solar cells is amazing!!). What about the upsurge in Hybrid vehicles and the interest in electric (of course that means more pressure on the grid, and more power production, likely by coal)? There is change. I agree with alot of what you're saying, I'm just trying to put it into context. Right now the environment is being "killed by a thousand cuts". Let's stop as many as we can, while we can and maybe we can do enough. Fish farming, as it is now, is preventing salmon from returning to the rivers and killing them as they leave. Easy fix! Ya need to start somewhere.

I know that first spot!!

Dead on! We pay to use the river... no problem to pay to use the land (why not an annual camping fee?).

Make up a "camper for free" sign... somebody will take it.

Robert, The situations on the coast are fundamentally the same, yet quite dissimilar. Stocks (Cod) collapsed in the Atlantic largely due to overfishing everywhere, and overfishing in an area where spawning and rearing occurred. Selective gear and closed areas could have prevented that, along with better front end research and harvest restrictions. Now the only option is a moratorium (cod) … let nature find a balance, if it can. There are other, more sustainable sources of protein. There is a great recovery story coming out of England right now… the Thames, a dead river, now supports trout. Atlantic Salmon are still returning to northern areas, albeit in much lower numbers. Overfishing in the ocean has hit them hard, but a lot of the big issues are in freshwater (dams, logging, road crossings, recreational fishing, etc). Restoring habitat quality in rivers will help produce fish that can try to survive the major, major dangers in the open sea. In the pacific, this issue is about salmonids. Rearing and spawning areas are in freshwater and the mouths to these rivers are critical. Unfortunately the mouths are also the best area for fish farming (inflow and outflow, plus protection from most sea weather). There are still returns of fish from the ocean. But can they get up into the streams? There are many things that we can do to change the demand. Not eating farmed fish will take away from the demand, and there for diminish the supply by your logic. Public demanding a (multi-million dollar) recreational fishery will ensure the construction of proper road culverts to allow fish to pass up. Angler pressure on government will lessen the desire to dam rivers. Choosing sustainable lumber (FSC certified) will force better logging practices. Action is required, letters, petitions, but most of all>>> Changes in Lifestyle; as simple as making a choice at the grocery store.

Robert... You're right, farming isn't the only cause... but it makes it worse. The board seems to shrug off other causes (this is about the world's largest supertankers (how many miles required to break?) going up to a location where they haven't been and about the construction of a giant pipeline and NEW marine terminal plus there are tons of spills that people don't know about killing wildlife), and others have been discussed here: Habitat loss Overfishing And what about dumping pollution in lakes which now the US has adopted in Alaska's salmon rearing areas. We need to create awarness (and concern) over all these negative things happening, and then we Need People To Act. And we need to take action all around the world to show that we "think globally". Kudoos to Caitlin, brndawg and ChrisD for keeping these issues current!!

I think you're just going to have to do some exploring... all the rivers are good at times and there are no sure bets.

Hey Don, The Common Cents System has been under quite a bit of criticism in the past couple of years. It is so far (IMHO) the best attempt to classify rod action but it is far from a system that a buyer could use. Sexyloopers have been discussing it for quite some time, and while it is great for putting comparable numbers on rods, it has a hard time quantifing "feel". Likely feel is a combination of the numbers that suits one caster and not another. The complexity of the system (and simplicity) is demonstrated when you compare a series of rod and get a bunch that feel different, but have similar numbers. Tackle Database of CCS values. If you have time to read there is a big discussion here. I've got to head out now, but when I'm back I'll look for the thread on pros and cons of CCS. Lots of good stuff on this all over the Sexloops Board, plus Bill Hanneman answers questions.

One of the biggest reasons I dumped the Olympus was I found the Pentax had a much better macro.

No picts right now, but I'll look later. There are these: http://www.midcurrent.com/video/clips/tl_trico.aspx For dubbing on the trico you can use a few things... beaver is good and fine enough for small flies/ I use a synthetic- the SLF superfine dubbing for small dries. Trico:

Stop whinning Rick....