Guest Jeremie Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 here is my tie of the bulldog used on Sport fishing on the fly. I had an original copy of the fly that was given to me by a certain someone but i ended up losing it in a tussle with a maligne lake rainbow. Size 6 streamer hook burnt orange marabou tail olive grizzly hackle 6/0 black thread thin copper wire Olive crystal chenille Hope you like it! Jeremie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydropsyche Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I always wondered what one of them looked like. Its never been "on the bench" before, has it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremie Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 It was on the bench early august i believe but i got one from someone in a fly shop in Kamloops that had a dozen of them and they where given to him by don freschi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I always wondered what one of them looked like. Its never been "on the bench" before, has it? Yes it has, burnt orange tail instead of brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremie Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 that is burnt orange marabou on the tail, i think the picture kind of messes it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremie Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Also the video that i saw early this month was a bit different because the hackly wasn't so thick, which was the same with the fly that i received from a gentleman through don. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebc Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 here is my tie of the bulldog used on Sport fishing on the fly. I have an original copy of the fly that was given to me by a certain someone but i ended up losing it in a tussle with a maligne lake rainbow. Size 6 streamer hook burnt orange marabou tail olive grizzly hackle 6/0 black thread thin copper wire Olive crystal chenille Hope you like it! Jeremie New Bulldog fly called the Pitbull From the original tyer (John K on the Flybc.ca forum) and he had a photo that went with it Recipe: Hook: Diachii 1270 #10/ Tiemco 200R #10 Tail: Burnt orange marabou, sparse, length of hookshank Body: 40% rabbit, 40% Icedub, 20% sealfur Hackle: #2 Grade Metz Microbarbs dyed olive grizzly Bead: (Fusion Beads) #8 Crimson Red Silverlined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremie Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Thats i nice looking pattern, BUT i still like mine better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydropsyche Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Yes it has, burnt orange tail instead of brown. I've never seen that before. What an excellent vid. Its interesting to see how he uses that Nor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 The guy can tie. Brent use to (still think he does) tie commercially and knocks out thousands of flies a year on that thing... and has been doing it since I first met him over 10 years ago. Good fly and a buddy of his (Dale Freschi) loves it...was actually tied for him. It's really just a wooley bugger in different colours, but if you've fished with Dale, he's definately a wooley bugger guy. Brent also has a video of stillwater patterns out there. Never seen it, but it's on my list to buy when I see it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 The guy can tie. Brent use to (still think he does) tie commercially and knocks out thousands of flies a year on that thing... and has been doing it since I first met him over 10 years ago. Good fly and a buddy of his (Dale Freschi) loves it...was actually tied for him. It's really just a wooley bugger in different colours, but if you've fished with Dale, he's definately a wooley bugger guy. Brent also has a video of stillwater patterns out there. Never seen it, but it's on my list to buy when I see it again. What is Brent's last name..do you know it?..........Wolfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Brent Schlenker...based out of Medicine Hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Brent Schlenker...based out of Medicine Hat. [PDF] DVFF Video Library Jan 2009.xlsx File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View Tying & Fishing Brent's Top 10 Lake Flies. Schlenker, Freschi. FT. 106. DVD. Caddis & Stillwater Patterns. Stalcup, Shane. Category ... www.diablovalleyflyfish.org/DVFF_Library_Inventory.pdf - Similar..................Is this the one you want?.............Wolfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 OK ....here try this.... http://hydeoutdoors.com/boats/prostaff/brent-schlenker ...Wolfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 That's Brent...I've come across the video a few times, and seen parts...just never gotten around to picking it up...always think 'next time' when I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebc Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Thats i nice looking pattern, BUT i still like mine better he he yeah they are all good versions of the bugger pattern and it likely matters more how you present than the pretty colours... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremie Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I think as long as it reflects/refracts light and move properly fish will snap at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhurt Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 I tie something very similar to that which I have been slaying with thm on the bow as of late, the only thing I do a bit diffrent is I trim my hackle a bit shorter and I do use lead wrap but it is underneith my dressing. I also use diffrent colors. I am working on a little thing right now that shows how I tie these and will be up on my facebook for all my friend to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremie Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 I tie something very similar to that which I have been slaying with thm on the bow as of late, the only thing I do a bit diffrent is I trim my hackle a bit shorter and I do use lead wrap but it is underneith my dressing. I also use diffrent colors. I am working on a little thing right now that shows how I tie these and will be up on my facebook for all my friend to see. Im guessing this would be a joke but wouldn't that be a plain old kick ass wooley bugger? We hooked in 6 fish in maligne with this fly all over 20" in 15 minutes. Going to try them for cutts tonight and tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I saw a more recent video of the Bulldog, tied by Don on a recent episode of sfotf. I've got it on VHS, and i'm sure the sfotf.ca site would have it once it's done all the site updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremie Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 yea i saw the new version, the hackle is a little shorter and the tail is a little smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Hey all, I found the video: http://www.sfotf.ca/fly-tying/category/web-exclusive. The very one they use on the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I don't know if anyone has heard of this fly and if so ..doesn't this 'bulldog' look like the "pumpkinhead" fly which was created a few years back by a Canadian tier, who now lives in North Alberta? ..the bulldog uses two hackles..one burnt orange, other dark olive..where as the Pumpkin Head only had but one..how peddy is this sport coming to.. a pic of the "pumpkinhead fly"... ..................................Wolfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Actully think it's very different from the Pumpkin head that John ties. This fly was created by Brent Schlenker for Dale Freschi. It's actually just a woolley bugger, but if you know Dale (nickname Bulldog) and his habit of always fishing wooley buggers, you'll get where this fly came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnk Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Actully think it's very different from the Pumpkin head that John ties. This fly was created by Brent Schlenker for Dale Freschi. It's actually just a woolley bugger, but if you know Dale (nickname Bulldog) and his habit of always fishing wooley buggers, you'll get where this fly came from. Figured it was time I chimed in. Wolfie brought this thread to my attention on another site. Didn't realize I haven't visited this site since Mar/09 but I'll have to visit more regularly as I see a lot of friends on this site. Bloom, correct you are. The Pumpkinhead and Bulldog are definitely two completely different patterns with mild similarities. I designed the p/head after becoming a fan of Denny Rickards and his stillwater nymph. Though an attractor pattern the intention was to simulate the size of damsels and oversized gammarus shrimp which explains tying the pattern on a size 12 (3xl) as the original was but now it is tied on a size 10 (2xl) to gain the benefit of more hook gap as well as stronger wire. I believe Brent's Bulldog is tied on a size 6 (3xl) and would probably be more suited to imitating dragons and larger leeches, possibly abstract baitfish?? In my opinion the attraction to both patterns is the dyed grizzly hackle as I've tried different beads and bodies but always go back to the dyed orange hackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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