RedBeard Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 Potentially bad news for our migratory friends... http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/flood-diversion-plan-phillips-nenshi-1.3288476 Quote
Sean84 Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 Ive got a flood plan for you, Don't build your house on a river. I would put money on this thing getting used every year and totally abused, because of fear. Look at the level they had the dams at during June for no reason but fear. Quote
Jayhad Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 I wish there was a way this wouldn't be completed. I don't know the result, but it seams when we as man meddle in natures way it goes sideways for the eco system. Quote
jpinkster Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 I'm not sure this will have a huge impact on migratory trout species in all honesty. Glenmore Reservoir is about 20km downstream, and it isn't like fish from the Bow can get up the Glenmore dam anyways. It looks like fish should be able to easily pass through the gates. My concern is what happens when the off-stream reservoir is drained. There will be fish that end up in the reservoir that could get stuck in standing water left behind once the water drains back into the river. Have a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp5Rut8CrmU Quote
RedBeard Posted October 26, 2015 Author Posted October 26, 2015 You're quite possibly right Jpinkster. As long as the diversion weir is kept open there shouldn't be much problem for migration. Heck, those fish may even just spawn right in the elbow(??). As you mention, the biggest problem will be stranding fish once they open the gates at the diversion reservoir. Should the weir ever be set permanently, it would block migration paths to the spawning creeks (Canyon, McLean, Silvester, etc.). This proposal is much better for our trout friends than the McLean Creek reservoir, which I believe would be a permanent dam, correct? The elbow river is the melting pot of historical stocking culture mixing with native populations in our province; brooks, bulls, cutts, rainbows, browns and whitefish. Hank Patterson could almost have caught one of his cutty-rain-brown's in the Elbow were it not for cross-breeding incompatibility haha. 1 Quote
jpinkster Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 The elbow river is the melting pot of historical stocking culture mixing with native populations in our province; brooks, bulls, cutts, rainbows, browns and whitefish. Hank Patterson could almost have caught one of his cutty-rain-brown's in the Elbow were it not for cross-breeding incompatibility haha. Those cutty-rain-browns don't stand a chance against the brookbows. Quote
albertatrout Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Does this not mean it will also be a dual purpose offline storage reservoir? Similar to Pine Coulee on Willow Creek? I like it as it is not on public land, it would have been a shame to see more of our public lands in the east slopes lost. There will be negative impacts but it sounds like they are determined to do something and this may be the least offensive option on the table. I do feel for the landowners but I'd still rather see it there than on our public forestry lands. I'd sure like to see more detailed plans, have to be patient I guess. Quote
BurningChrome Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Does this not mean it will also be a dual purpose offline storage reservoir? Similar to Pine Coulee on Willow Creek? I like it as it is not on public land, it would have been a shame to see more of our public lands in the east slopes lost. There will be negative impacts but it sounds like they are determined to do something and this may be the least offensive option on the table. I do feel for the landowners but I'd still rather see it there than on our public forestry lands. I'd sure like to see more detailed plans, have to be patient I guess.Looks like you're not alone. http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/scientist-calls-springbank-the-least-worst-option-for-flood-mitigation Quote
jpinkster Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 I'm at least pleased to see that protecting sensitive bull trout territory factored into the decision. Small victories. Quote
DonAndersen Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Do recall that the holding dam may only be used for 100 year floods. Every <> 100 years, the land will be underwater. Till then, the dam , if operated correctly, could provide Calgary with a park within biking distance of the city. And the best part, the park will not have ski hills or ice cream stands. A true wild land park. Now, the danger will be if the land doesn't flood often enough, people will attempt to move onto it. Do recall Ralphie relaxed the "flood plain" rules. Don Quote
monger Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 It will be an awesome big hole for tearing around in quads ripping up every piece of vegetation available Quote
troutlover Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 I wonder if I will be able to launch my jet boat there and go fer a rip up the elbow to the falls Quote
Jayhad Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 I wonder if I will be able to launch my jet boat there and go fer a rip up the elbow to the falls I'm planning on launching from canyon creek, but you make a good point probably head up from this water Quote
DonAndersen Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 It will be an awesome big hole for tearing around in quads ripping up every piece of vegetation available Monger, That is just a wonderful idea. Quads there an no where else. Don Quote
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