Taco Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Since maybe I've changed my mind somewhat.about friggin lakes, I'm thinkin' I should upgrade my Fatcat kicktube a bit and been doin' some research. Anyone looked at one of these yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbzVsbmNbOE. Looks pretty sweet and I do like Outcast's reputation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianR Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 taco; that's very similar to the scadden outlaw renegade. I do like there stripping basket & easier add on to attachments.with scadden you glue them on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Yeah I know, it was your boat that sent me on this quest. I like the idea of a frameless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyfisher Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 My advice for stillwater fishing, unless I'm in a belly boat I want a watercraft I can stand up in. Outcast makes an excellent pontoon with standing platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonAndersen Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Taco, I have a frameless Scadden Escape and a Outcast PAC 800. The Scadden is a back up boat whereas the Outcast gets used 90 days/yr. I don't think that the frameless oar system would hack long term use w/o ripping out. Plus the oar lock system would wear out. Get a PAC 800 or 900 or a IR 9. I use a IR 9 frame and oar system for several years and it works just fine. Just remember, while you appear to be crusty, you are not yet old. I bought the Outcast for it's 10 year warranty and I'm 68. Buy a decent boat and it lasts. Frameless boats are a pain to attach anchors, rod holders, fish finders and wheels which at one time are another are used often. Catch ya' Don 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadillac Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Thanks don, you just answered my questions before i asked them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 Bein' a cheapassed dutchman here but anything over 12-15 bills I'd rather spend more of my money on a hard boat that'll hold more than one person and I can also use on bigger water. http://www.hogislandboatworks.com/skiff_specifications.php or http://www.springcreekprams.com/?page_id=69 That Outcast Stealth Pro has a full 5 yr warranty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonAndersen Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Taco, Outcast sells a 9IR Fish cat through the Fishin Hole at $ 689.00. Even a penny punching Dutchman can afford that. As far as I can see, all Outcast boats are at least 5 year warranty. Even a Dutchman should last that long. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 LMFAO... the cheapassed dutchman vs the smartassed scandihoovian I give up, I'll have a look but I was lookin' to get away from the frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonAndersen Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Taco, Looked over the Outcast Stealth Pro. Was right, glued one oar locks and the oar lock itself would wear out. Something that my Scadden has and Outcast has also is a "stabilizing" bar ahead of the seat. That makes getting your fins above the water on long row tough. I'm not sure it can even be done. And it matters! Those fins are gonna drag like crazy making a long row even uglier. Of course, with dragging fins and lousy oar system, you best join the electric motor crowd and jump the weight of the whole thing by 80 lbs. For river running where you wear wading boots only the stabilizing bar won't be an issue except you have to step over it to get outta the boat. For safety sake, maybe add a wading staff. Keep upright, Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianR Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 the sea eagle .com offers a 285 frameless ...you get to try it for 180 days before you have to pay..that is if you are a cheap Dutchman.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Jeez..180 days almost sounds like desperation on their part And cheap may not be the word.. more like demandin' value for money spent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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