Ok

[Taco]

Since maybe I've changed my mind somewhat.about friggin lakes, I'm thinkin' I should upgrade my Fatcat kicktube a bit and been doin' some research.

 

Anyone looked at one of these yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbzVsbmNbOE.

 

Looks pretty sweet and I do like Outcast's reputation.

[BrianR]

taco; that's very similar to the scadden outlaw renegade. I do like there stripping basket & easier add on to attachments.with scadden you glue them on..

[Taco]

Yeah I know, it was your boat that sent me on this quest. I like the idea of a frameless.

[Flyfisher]

My advice for stillwater fishing, unless I'm in a belly boat I want a watercraft I can stand up in. Outcast makes an excellent pontoon with standing platform.

[DonAndersen]

Taco,

 

I have a frameless Scadden Escape and a Outcast PAC 800. The Scadden is a back up boat whereas the Outcast gets used 90 days/yr. I don't think that the frameless oar system would hack long term use w/o ripping out. Plus the oar lock system would wear out.

Get a PAC 800 or 900 or a IR 9. I use a IR 9 frame and oar system for several years and it works just fine.

Just remember, while you appear to be crusty, you are not yet old. I bought the Outcast for it's 10 year warranty and I'm 68. Buy a decent boat and it lasts.

Frameless boats are a pain to attach anchors, rod holders, fish finders and wheels which at one time are another are used often.

 

Catch ya'

 

 

Don

[Chadillac]

Thanks don, you just answered my questions before i asked them!

[Taco]

Bein' a cheapassed dutchman here but anything over 12-15 bills I'd rather spend more of my money on a hard boat that'll hold more than one person and I can also use on bigger water. http://www.hogislandboatworks.com/skiff_specifications.php or http://www.springcreekprams.com/?page_id=69

 

That Outcast Stealth Pro has a full 5 yr warranty

[DonAndersen]

Taco,

 

Outcast sells a 9IR Fish cat through the Fishin Hole at $ 689.00. Even a penny punching Dutchman can afford that.

As far as I can see, all Outcast boats are at least 5 year warranty.

Even a Dutchman should last that long.

 

Don

[Taco]

LMFAO... the cheapassed dutchman vs the smartassed scandihoovian

 

 

I give up, I'll have a look but I was lookin' to get away from the frame

[DonAndersen]

Taco,

 

Looked over the Outcast Stealth Pro.

Was right, glued one oar locks and the oar lock itself would wear out.

Something that my Scadden has and Outcast has also is a "stabilizing" bar ahead of the seat. That makes getting your fins above the water on long row tough. I'm not sure it can even be done. And it matters! Those fins are gonna drag like crazy making a long row even uglier. Of course, with dragging fins and lousy oar system, you best join the electric motor crowd and jump the weight of the whole thing by 80 lbs.

For river running where you wear wading boots only the stabilizing bar won't be an issue except you have to step over it to get outta the boat. For safety sake, maybe add a wading staff.

 

Keep upright,

 

 

Don

[BrianR]

the sea eagle .com offers a 285 frameless ...you get to try it for 180 days before you have to pay..that is if you are a cheap Dutchman..

[Taco]

Jeez..180 days almost sounds like desperation on their part

 

 

And cheap may not be the word.. more like demandin' value for money spent