softhackle Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Just tried out my new furled leader last night with a just purchased 8ft 5weight Sage RPLIII, loved it. Turns over nice and hooked several fish just before dark. Any experiences with furled leaders? Nymphing with furled leaders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverDoctor Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Just tried out my new furled leader last night with a just purchased 8ft 5weight Sage RPLIII, loved it. Turns over nice and hooked several fish just before dark. Any experiences with furled leaders? Nymphing with furled leaders? Straight leader is better for nymphing, where a furled shines is dry fly, acts as a continuation of the line taper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertboyce Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I've been using a furled leader with a tenkara rod and dries found it a lot of fun. Vy nice to cast and vy effective for fly control with this type of set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevesr1 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I've tried to nymph with a furled, and it did not seem to work as well as just a straight leader. But I love them for dries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softhackle Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 Good discussion. I would agree that the intent for furled is dry fly and is a perfect match for my nice little 8 ft 5 wt sage. I did try it nymphing/w indicator but at the risk of damaging the leader found it wasnt worth it. Great for turning over the leader and landing a dry softly though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I use fluoro furled leaders and fluoro tippet all the time when I'm huckin' wets or softhacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I have furled nymphing leaders that are just two strands of light super braid. They are very low diameter, no stretch and cut through the water like a knife. I felt like they gave a faster sink rate and better connection to the flies. Problems were the tangles were bad when they happened, and the leader would sometimes cut through the indicator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonvilly Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What about braided leaders? Tom Rosenbauer on the or the orvis podcast was talking about using them for dry fly presentations in low clear technical waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverDoctor Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What about braided leaders? Tom Rosenbauer on the or the orvis podcast was talking about using them for dry fly presentations in low clear technical waters. Just my 2 cents I fished braided leaders for a few years. Although they turned over nicely and cast well the thing I hated about them was a retention of water that would dump during the pickup and forward cast. It resulted (for me that is in my own experience) in a small shower of water drops that proceeded the line to the water which did not help stealth. The kick up of water on the pick up in turn would result in a slower pick up as it added weight. Something that doesn't happen for me with Furled. Braided and furled leaders are totally different. Furled dress with floatant nicely to float, they pick up no more water than a hand tied leader and don't throw water on the false cast. The braided do not float well and absorb a goodly amount of water. When using these type of systems as opposed to just a tapered leader it does take some experimentation to "tune" the leader for not only the length of taper for the line you are using but also the amount of leader you use to your terminal flies. They do turn over and straighten really nicely. I can use more tippet to fly with control. They are not for everyone or for all fishing situations, where they shine and I bring them out are in flat tail water dry fly work to enhance a delicate presentation such as in snout hunting or dry fly work on lakes. They are not made for nymphing or streamer work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 And I'll add; I really like furled leaders for tight close quarter fishing small stream fishing. The ease of turn over means I can cast with virtually no fly line hanging out of the tip of my rod, just the leader, tippet and fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverDoctor Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 And I'll add; I really like furled leaders for tight close quarter fishing small stream fishing. The ease of turn over means I can cast with virtually no fly line hanging out of the tip of my rod, just the leader, tippet and fly. X2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverDoctor Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 another comment a quality furled leader is really nice, a poor quality one is nice for tying up your tomato plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowbiker Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Just my 2 cents I fished braided leaders for a few years. Although they turned over nicely and cast well the thing I hated about them was a retention of water that would dump during the pickup and forward cast. It resulted (for me that is in my own experience) in a small shower of water drops that proceeded the line to the water which did not help stealth. The kick up of water on the pick up in turn would result in a slower pick up as it added weight. Something that doesn't happen for me with Furled. Braided and furled leaders are totally different. Furled dress with floatant nicely to float, they pick up no more water than a hand tied leader and don't throw water on the false cast. The braided do not float well and absorb a goodly amount of water. When using these type of systems as opposed to just a tapered leader it does take some experimentation to "tune" the leader for not only the length of taper for the line you are using but also the amount of leader you use to your terminal flies. They do turn over and straighten really nicely. I can use more tippet to fly with control. They are not for everyone or for all fishing situations, where they shine and I bring them out are in flat tail water dry fly work to enhance a delicate presentation such as in snout hunting or dry fly work on lakes. They are not made for nymphing or streamer work. Hey Doc, Thanks for your two cents worth. A lot more valuable than that. I really appreciate your detailed description. I have one more question for you. How in tarnation do you get a silk thread Furled leader tight enough so that it stays furled. I have tried several times and it will not stay furled. I have made monofilament furled leaders in the past and they turned out real nice. Thanks, Dick Seymour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Hey Dick, I have not tried furling with silk, but have a used several different materials. I try to keep a constant tension and stop the twist when the leg is reduced by about 10% (I think that is the measure). Also, if you don't break one or two when working with a new material, you probably aren't twisting enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowbiker Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Hey Dick, I have not tried furling with silk, but have a used several different materials. I try to keep a constant tension and stop the twist when the leg is reduced by about 10% (I think that is the measure). Also, if you don't break one or two when working with a new material, you probably aren't twisting enough. Thanks Conor, I furled up four or five using silk thread and used the measure you talk about, maybe even going to 15%(15-18 inches on an 8 foot furl). I guess I'm going to have to break one to see how much twist it will take. I have also thought of putting some flytying wax on while I'm spinning it to see if that will hold it together a bit better. I bought a silk line and it seems to have a waxy substance on it. At any rate I will keep you posted as to how I make out. Regards, Dick Seymour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverDoctor Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 You can also use combinations of silk, mono, braid etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironfly Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Let's be honest, isn't the best part about them that we made them ourselves? I gotta build a new jig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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