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can a hatchery fish be a world record?

 

doesn't seem like it should. starts out life in a protected pen being spoon fed. then it makes a break for it into the lake and eats more than its fill. doesn't sound like a fair comparison to a fish that is spawned in the wild and fights every day to avoid predators and find food.

 

hey good on those guys for successfully chasing big trout and other fish but imdao making that fish the world record is the same as giving barry bonds the home run record - tainted and smells all wrong.

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i dunno how hard it would have fought..6 lb test

 

Exacty..the line would have been maxed simply pulling that fish through the water....let alone if it struggled much at all..I don't want to take anything away from these guys it is indeed an impressive size fish..but It's not natural for a rainbow to grow that big/fat ....

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hey good on those guys for successfully chasing big trout and other fish but imdao making that fish the world record is the same as giving barry bonds the home run record - tainted and smells all wrong.

 

 

Barry Bonds. Good one. ;)

 

I should grow a bigger fish in my bathtub and then release it into my dugout and break that record.

 

The only problem is I don't have a bathtub big enough, or a dugout, but if I did........

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Exacty..the line would have been maxed simply pulling that fish through the water....let alone if it struggled much at all..

 

I've caught 40+ lb redfish on 10 lb test. Trust me when I say they struggle plenty. All a matter of patience and steady pressure. The biggest I caught on 10 lb probably weighed 45 lb and took a little over an hour to land. I have no doubt I could have done the same on 6 lb. test, but who has the time?? Also you put massive amounts of stress on the fish fighting them that long and it can be difficult to revive them. Anyway, don't equate line strength with fight of the fish. No doubt 6 lb test could land that fish whether he fought hard or not if the fishermen knew what they were doing. And judging by the fact they seem to be big fish specialists, my bet is they know exactly what they are doing.

 

Also, I guess I don't really understand the need to belittle the accomplishment. Brood stock or not, it's a pretty impressive fish. Also, not knowing much about Sask, just how many places do they have to fish for rainbows? Not all that much flowing water around capable of supporting rainbows around is there? So if you are stuck fishing in ponds and lakes, might as well target the big boys yes? And they caught the biggest/baddest boy (or girl in this case) ever. Good on 'em!

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Also, I guess I don't really understand the need to belittle the accomplishment. Brood stock or not, it's a pretty impressive fish. Also, not knowing much about Sask, just how many places do they have to fish for rainbows? Not all that much flowing water around capable of supporting rainbows around is there? So if you are stuck fishing in ponds and lakes, might as well target the big boys yes? And they caught the biggest/baddest boy (or girl in this case) ever. Good on 'em!

 

 

Good point Rick.

 

Not to mention. Unless you are catching Cutthroat or Bull Trout, you are catching stocked fish, or descendants of stocked fish here in Alberta.

 

Although it is a little fun to poke at them a bit, don't ya think....

 

If I had pictures of myself holding a fish like that one, people could bash me all they want.

 

It's like the old saying goes...."Look at the score board".

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plenty of cutts were stocked in our waters over the years also...

 

6 lb mono is really strong stuff and combined with a properly set drag can easily land a fish like this no matter how hard it fought. if they were in a boat they would have the luxury of chasing the fish around further minimizing the stress on the line and reel.

 

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yeeesh, how is asking questions belittling their catching of good sized fish? they obviously found the spot where the big ones hang out and eat. nothing wrong with that. like to know the spot my self but likely wouldn't do any good b/c i don't fish with hardware/bait. no question they know how and where to catch fish and are good at it.

 

however, questioning how a fish that grew to an adult being hand fed can be the world record for largest rainbow is not belittling their accomplishment. why not, as hydropsyche says, simply grow some fish in a closed envirnment then when they are very large throw them into a lake and then start catching them (assuming they would grow large enough). would that be any different?

 

equating catching trout in the bow (or wherever) that descended from fish stocked decades years ago with catching a brood fish that escaped as an adult and bulked up from there is as the saying goes apples and oranges boys. apples and oranges.

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yeeesh, how is asking questions belittling their catching of good sized fish? they obviously found the spot where the big ones hang out and eat. nothing wrong with that. like to know the spot my self but likely wouldn't do any good b/c i don't fish with hardware/bait. no question they know how and where to catch fish and are good at it.

 

however, questioning how a fish that grew to an adult being hand fed can be the world record for largest rainbow is not belittling their accomplishment. why not, as hydropsyche says, simply grow some fish in a closed envirnment then when they are very large throw them into a lake and then start catching them (assuming they would grow large enough). would that be any different?

 

equating catching trout in the bow (or wherever) that descended from fish stocked decades years ago with catching a brood fish that escaped as an adult and bulked up from there is as the saying goes apples and oranges boys. apples and oranges.

Hey Jimbow,

The comment wasn't actually directed at you, or any one person in particular. I don't think the fish should be considered a world record either, but doesn't taint the accomplishment. But you gotta admit, there was a bit of energy directed at the fish, and comparing it negatively to catching big fish on the river. I agree that they are apples and oranges. More than agree actually. My point is, I guess, that why even compare at all? They had a great accomplishment on its own. Doesn't have to be compared with anything.

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I agree it was a great accomplishment. Considering how many fish are caught every day, and how many times that one fish was caught (once), it was a 1 in 10,000,000 fish. Good on them.

 

But I don't think it should be a world record, or if so, in a different category.

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Hey Jimbow,

The comment wasn't actually directed at you

 

oops sorry i thought it was directed at me specifically, my mistake.

 

on the topic of how hard fish fight i've got a very good friend who spent years guiding in new zealand and caught (him or the sports) lots of double digit browns. it was his view that if the browns fought like bow river rainbows they'd never be able to land them. we've got a great fighting population of 'bows here in the bow.

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  • 4 weeks later...
I would say that their little lake is about to get real busy....

pretty big lake actuallly, im from the area, these guys have been pulling 20+ lbers for a long time, my dad has been trying to follow them to their "spot" for about 4-5 years now, nice fish and i give them all the credit, but keep in mind my folks say they dont own a boat but do own scuba gear.

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pretty big lake actuallly, im from the area, these guys have been pulling 20+ lbers for a long time, my dad has been trying to follow them to their "spot" for about 4-5 years now, nice fish and i give them all the credit, but keep in mind my folks say they dont own a boat but do own scuba gear.

 

Scuba gear... now thats how to find the fish! Lol

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