fwalsh Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Just wondering if anyone has anything to report on the Lamson Konic 4 as a Spey reel . I just got my first Spey outfit and find the Okuma Integrity 10/11 too small with only a RIO Windcutter Spey line and 150 yards of backing . Thanks for any advice ..........Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
126barnes Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I have a Konic 3.5 (rigged for single handed) dressed with a 9wf Sage Preformance II and shes the full of the spool with min. backing. I guessin unless your spey is on the lighter side the Konic 4 will give you similar problems as your Okuma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headscan Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 What's the line weight of your Windcutter and are you using 20# or 30# backing? Your Integrity holds a WF10 and 170yds of 30# backing, while the Konic 4 holds a WF10 and 240yds of 30# so it definitely has a bit more capacity. Theoretically the Konic should be able to hold about 70 more yards of 30# backing, provided their listed capacities are accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhurt Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Personally if you ask me, if you are going to buy a Lamson product for spey I would go with the Velocity V4 or V3 I have used these before personally and have found no problems with them. I do have a lamson Velocity V4 for sale, sent you a PM. Anyways welcome to the spey community and don't be afraid to ask questions here as there are people that post here that really do know what they are talking about, and once the weather is a bit warmer hopefully we can have another spey gathering before the expo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwalsh Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 I am using a 7-8-9 Windcutter with 12 feet cut off the running line end along with 150 yards of 20 pound test Dacron ( Walmart brand ) . I don't know if Micron would be any thinner than the one I have on the reel .............Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headscan Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Is it just that you want more backing on the reel or a slightly bigger reel to balance out the rod better? To balance you might want at least a 4" diameter reel with some decent width to it. To get more backing, you could cut a little more running line off the Windcutter since it has something like 70' to it. I'd also consider upping to 30# dacron for the size of fish you're seeing with a 9wt rod. Gelspun is also an option - high break strength and you can fit more of it on the reel if it's just a question of getting more backing on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkk Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 dont bother buying another reel. 150 yrds is lots. if you get that far into it then you will probably have bigger problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agbff Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I gotta agree with pkk but if your looking for something new, check out the loop CLW. Fished one for a long time, i really dug it... cheap and light! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwalsh Posted December 18, 2009 Author Share Posted December 18, 2009 Headscan : I want a larger reel so it is not filled as much as the one I have now . The option to add more backing if wanted is also attractive . I will probably visit our local flyshop and wind the flyline and backing onto a Lamson Konic 4 and others to see which I prefer .............Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBrownie Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 I like the Loop G3 Evotech 8-10 HD, they are probably the nicest reel I have had the pleasure of owning. As the G4 is coming out, or may already be, there are deals to be had and they more than enough line, with room to spare. As a bonus (actually one of the features that sold me on it) fishing steelhead in -10, and acccidentally dunking the reel, I encountered no drag freeze up problems, which can't be said about some other reels I have dealt with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistler Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 it is no prob to get loops wet as the drag is completely sealed. What rod is this going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brookie2 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I like the Loop G3 Evotech 8-10 HD, they are probably the nicest reel I have had the pleasure of owning. As the G4 is coming out, or may already be, there are deals to be had and they more than enough line, with room to spare. As a bonus (actually one of the features that sold me on it) fishing steelhead in -10, and acccidentally dunking the reel, I encountered no drag freeze up problems, which can't be said about some other reels I have dealt with. I had a similar experience while steelheadin in sub zero temps, other guys (more expensive) reels where froze-up and had no drag. My Loop Evotec functioned flawlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethfisher Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 I got a Lamson Velocity 3 for Xmas this year and am going to be putting it on my 7wt switch rod. I put the reel on the rod yesterday without line and I am worried about the weight of the reel. the Velocity 3 is rated for 7/8 wt but is a super light reel... I think the Velocity 4 would be to big, has anyone used the Velocity 3.5 at all? I think I am going to call a local shop and see if they have the 3.5 to just look at and compare it. My Dad got me the reel from a fly shop in BC called Pacific Anglers so i guess i'll have to ship it back to them and trade it in if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headscan Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 General rule of thumb is that when your reel loaded with line and backing is on the rod it should balance close to the top of the cork, but personal preference plays a big role. If it's still too light but the line fits on the reel, you can always use a bit of lead to add some weight at the reel seat instead of getting another reel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethfisher Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Is that with line out through the guides or all the line on the reel? I lined up the reel and it balances about an inch from the top of the cork so I think it should be good to go. thanks for the advice. Can't wait to get out with the new reel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headscan Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Sounds like it's pretty well balanced, but you'll know for sure by the feel of it when you get out and cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalops Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Does anyone have any experience with the Mako spey reels from Charlton? I am considering one for a trip next fall and am wondering if anyone has any experience with them in the spey model. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headscan Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 No experience with them, but wow are they pricey. Have you looked at any of the other sealed drag reels (if that's what you're looking for) like Nautilus, Danielsson, or Loop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalops Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I have used the loop and the danielsson for saltwater fishing and they fall very short of the Charltons (I have only played with his previous reels before - haven't seen the Mako yet). Never been a fan of Nautilus. I have a couple of the Makos on order for tarpon fishing but was mainly wondering if anyone had tried the spey model as it apparently has lower top end drag relative to the non-spey versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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