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Ok then. But, once Harvie Passage area is open this summer, there will be far more people flocking to this area to play. Individuals who decide to park in Pierce Estate Park will be removed (the community has stated clearly that they are not welcome) and they are not permitted to park at the fish hatchery, they will not be able to park at the zoo either. Therefore the next legal closest parking area would be 17th St. for rafters, kayakers, paddlers, river surfers and many others who only want to play at Harvie Passage and not float the river.

It is a Fire Department Gate for sure. Says it right on the gate. I suspect the fire department is not interested in maneuvering their expensive equipment around piles of rafter’s vehicles to access the river once Harvie Passage opens and they are forced to be out there every day picking up drunken rafters who have fallen off their toys.

I would be a little worried about this as DFO have already started scaling back DFO Habitat staff dramatically across the country as of December. This shows that Canada is open for business and pesky environmental concerns that are deemed to hold up progress can easily be removed if there is a political will, but at what cost? Native fish populations (and their somewhat important habitat) are declining across the country (especially in the west slopes habitat which most on this forum have a fondness for). If the simple word “habitat” is removed from the act there will be greatly reduced ability for pre and post project protection. In some situations mitigation can be used, but in many larger systems functional mitigation does not occur fast enough to protect all fish populations. this came out in 2009: http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/English/...01_e_32511.html

Technically, as I understand, that access site is not “public” but actually a “controlled” launch by the fire department. Contact them.

Maybe some of these items could be donated to the next Streamwatch auction.... Just a thought

Instead of sitting and being critical of a conservation organization attempting to protect a resource you hold dear, maybe it would be more positive to join a local chapter and drive the change from within? Just saying.

. Alberta Sustainable Resource Development -public lands should have a list of those Islands which are public and those that are private

Partly yes, partly no. Removing the fallen trees would be easily completed by a few strong backs and a couple chain saws, but I think that the silt that needs to be removed would require a backhoe to re-open access to the river. The chapter did some work recently on this and there is more silt there now- sorry I did not take photos. Here are images from Bow River Shuttles Blog from like a month ago, http://bowrivershuttles.blogspot.com/searc...;max-results=10 the area is filled in again. For this to happen the flows would have to recede in the side channel enough to get equipment through, there was about a meter of flow in the side channel last week.

The road down the hill is slumping a bit, but the launches appeared to be in decent shape with some silt. Low visibility limited being able to see what was happening under water (FYI-The gate was locked last week) Legacy Island is not useable logs across the access road and a tree across the boat launch.

in fact polimans flats is privately owned- it is technaiclly an island. the prive islands are unfortunalty not well mapped, but i understand there are couple others along the way - typically they are posted.

The city had to start fixing fences in Southland about two weeks after they finished installing them because poor little Fido could not run up and down the eroding bank to fetch is favourite tennis ball. And now his tennis ball in sitting in some side channel 47 km downstream and Fido is sad, poor Fido. What we need is more concrete steps like in Southland to make it easier for Fido to play.

Actually many of the islands are actually privately owned (ie legacy) and no camping is permitted. Many of the islands were once part of the left or right bank and when high waters carved a side channel making it an island, those landowners did not lose the rights to their land.

Point for clarity: Enforcement is not just writing tickets, ASRD would likely tell you they are equally about engagement and education- with ticketing being a tool towards their goal. From the ASRD website: • patrol geographic areas to monitor the activities of hunters, anglers, trappers, commercial fishers and industry • enforce federal and provincial laws, regulations, rules and orders relating to fish and wildlife resources • provide information and answer questions from hunters, anglers, trappers, commercial fishers, landowners, students, industry and the media • investigate complaints, apprehend violators, prepare administrative and court documents, issue summonses and warnings, and prepare and present evidence in court • take accurate notes and testify as a witness for the prosecution at trial • investigate complaints about nuisance and problem wildlife, take appropriate control measures and advise landowners and industry about effective wildlife control measures they can implement on their own • deliver public service programs such as presentations in schools and at sport club meetings • co-operate with wildlife researchers and collect related data (for example, conduct wildlife inventories or collect samples to assist with natural resource research) • maintain government issue equipment • recommend changes or amendments to legislation and regulations, and hunting/fishing seasons and methods of harvest • issue licenses and permits, or provide information to licensing agents • inspect commercial operations (for example, taxidermy shops, furriers, tanners, game bird farms, outfitters or guides). So if you want more "fines and tickets" drawn on infractions- likely this is going to need a much larger presence and more staffing in the field (ie not only trucks, but gas for them, Ever call report a poacher for an infraction in the Nanton and get a call back from and officer in Red Deer?...), also remember that asrd does not actively patrol all areas like most provincial recreation areas (Alberta Parks has their own officers- and they deal a lot with bears, hiker issues, bears, rowdy campers, bears, traffic violations, bears. etc.)

hey Harps- that looks like a HADD to me...

Millennium Creek flows into Big Hill Creek about 15-20 meters before BHC empties into the Bow River. Millennium Creek runs about 400 meters to a culvert running under Griffin Road; it goes about 150 more meters before there is an impoundment. Springs feed the impoundment and some of these springs were used to create the spawning channel.

just a rumor. http://www.mywildalberta.com/documents/Fis...Report-2010.pdf only stocking of cutts this year was in Upper K lakes. ASRD does not stock flowing waters in Southern Alberta.

You cannot beat the fast service for the TFO rods- you can stop by their office and get a section replaced in 5 mintues. not weeks! thanks TFO!

They stocked 14,000 cutthroat trout into the upper lake in early June. Averaging 30cm- and bulls will be stocked this fall. If you have no luck catching a fish, you will most likely be able to catch someone using bait illegally. Phone is located in parking lot near boat launch.

Those are longnose dace. A. There are no black nose dace in Alberta. Period. B. Emerald shinners are mostly silver with 10-12 rays on their anal fin. Their lateral line does not exten past the eye. end of story.

Typically this type of issue is best directed at ASRD lands division. Photos of the people and the vehicles are great along with images of the silt. ASRD or DFO would likely have to "prove" that this issue was a harmful alteration or destruction of habitat- and that is very hard via word of mouth. An image of the trucks in the creek outside and ohv area with images of the drivers goes a long way to setting a complaint. Good luck

A big Thank You to those few individuals who have decided to bite the bullet and open and run local independent fly shops acrsoss the province, and essentially make running these small operations their life. Every shop I have ever visited has been a pleasure including Denny's (RIP) which I still miss to this day. Thanks to all those who support these warm, informative institutions and the service they provide.

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Shells are often used in some eastern religious activities. The items that adore the shells each have a specific significance whether it is to mourn a loss or celebrate a new birth or for some other meaning. Hindus use it as an offering to a god or goddess in some circumstances.

Why do everyone get so upset? Me not avoied nationla parks to pay my money to eat hotdog on mountean top while i go fishign in some stocked lake. You are right, the comparison to an NHL game may be a little different, but you could just as easily watch a hockey game from home for next to nothing as well. For some it is about the experience of peace and quiet on a river in nature. You can experience that peace on the Bow River early and late season, but once others dust off the boats and rods and clog up the system, for some it becomes less enjoyable. So for some, including myself, I am willing to pay a little extra (I am not wealthy by any means) for that experience. There are already programs that focus on pay for play ("Open Spaces" program) for consumptive activities (there is a hooking mortality associated with catch and release angling no matter how skilled you are) in this province so those types of costs will come.

Get over it- Totally worth it to fish some of those systems- i have a hard time hearing people continuously get upset at this issue. Yes the decision was not a conservation issue, and yes there should be some allowances for those who own property in BC, but if you go by a ticket to an NHL game- what does that three hours of disappointment get you? a day at the local ski resort? or a day at the spa for your “lady friend”? well it is not that much- and the fishing is great, and there are almost no gorbies casting over you or pushing you out of your spot, the mountains are great to look at, and there are far fewer tampons or golf balls in those systems... etc.etc. Get over it!