pkk

yes the poor steelhead have many problems, but that doesnt make it ok to have the fish anywhere near the rocks. yes there are many pics of steel on or beside the rocks but that does not make it ok. I dont know about you but I would feel pretty shitty if I had a steelhead die in my hands (one good headwack on the rocks). unfortunate but yes i have seen dead steelhead on the beach. cannot say exactly why but definately fishing related. Not all locals are for the AMP. ( plus really dont think it will happen, just too many factors on such a lrge wish list) two wrongs dont make a right

and any gomer with a hammer can call themself a carpenter. (does that mean he has work?) I would normally be all for it. but liscenced guides in bc have allot of clout, and the government listens to them. the unfortunate thing is that the things that change are only beneficial to them. ie they complain when they feel the river gets to crowded and soloutions like classified days in the east kootneys, and the new skeena management plan (what a joke), 8 days limited entry. tough call

the most important thing is having the rod lined properly. you could have the nicest/most expensive/best looking rod but if it doesnt have the right line on it it will cast like a pce of *hit. and rods from different companies with the same length and wt will have different flexes and cast differently. so a line that works for one 13' 8 wt might not work for another.most companies make good rods. a change of a few feet in head length makes a huge difference. for newcomers it is highly recommended seeking help from someone who is qualified (certified all the better). someone that has been doing it for many years (not just 2.), and all year long. there is some good help here in town but their market is mainly single hand rods. not to make Brian Niska's (certified instructor)head get any bigger but he is very good matching lines to rods. that is what he does "full time" and for along time, and for a "good time". a 13', 7 or 8 wt with a short belly line (scando or skagit) would be my recommendation for a beginner rod. with a couple of days instruction someone should be casting the full head, and proficiently enough to catch fish. so seek help, qualified help, not just internet help. PK nothing against max or toolman or anyone else that tries to help. these guys have are keen, their knowledge has come from taking some casting lessons and learning about lines from qualified people, and spending some time on the water.

just as I thought. You havent a clue!

Whats the matter PGK, cat got your tongue?

well pgk? you dont even know do you. if they are summer run fish then chances are that the fish you catch in dec are not so fresh and been in the river a long time (red stripes and rosey cheeks), and are more likely to be duds (lame fight). but catching these same fish earlier in the season when they are fresh out of ocean and chrome bright they are a different animal (way more fun to catch). with water temps warmer and the fish being fresh, they can be very aggressive and will move long ways to grab your fly. hence no need to be casting any sinktips ( let alone trying to force feed them on the bottom with 15' of t14). Skating a dry fly is amazing.If they are winter run then you should be catching some beautiful chromers and there is a need for sink tips. You say like catching chinook on the fly. same same are these chromers or boots. I have seen alot of pics of guys with booty chinooks. there are very few rivers where they are bumper chrome bright and will actually eat the fly and not get flossed. You also say that you make 500, 100' casts a day.( do you know how far 100' is) How many have you actually hooked that far out. there is the odd one but the majority are in much closer. if you only make 100' casts all day it tells me that you dont know how to read steelhead water because most runs on most rivers (there are exceptions) a 100 fter is over casting. This is also very common mistake when people have just learned to cast a spey rod. sure it is fun to cast that far or have learned to do so but now you are casting and not fishing. If you are the god that you think you are why havent you posted some pics of all your beautiful fish. Well?

are these summer or winter run fish?

in your own minds!

exactly, one shouldnt comment on what he doesnt know. but who the hell are you and who the hell is brent. are you the all o mighty steelhead gods that everyone should compare themselves to?

that wasnt max driving, it was me. got a problem with that. It is legal! I think I am very diplomatic on where when and how I drive my boat. But maybe I should really say f--k it and drive like the ***hole you all think i am. you think that was a wake! keep it up. Dutchie I believe I had an interesting talk with you on the river the other day. Remember? I do!

if you went earlier in the season you wouldnt have to settle for double stripped boots. bet you dont catch any chromers.

ya everyone speak up now. there is a open meeting nov. 17 in smithers. the biggest problem I have is that non bc canadians are being grouped together with non canadians. It also seems like it is guide stacked, thus the whole program seems to be driven towards their benefit. Several of these guide operations are partially owned by americans. so where is the justice by limiting canadians so that partially american owned companies can benefit. I could go on and on, but would like to save myself for the 17th. PK

Thanks for the clarification. (I have been taught that a stripset is the proper way to set the hook on a tarpon.)

timj you speak of a " a straight up and down tarpon hookset " could you please elaborate. PK

Not everyone chooses to get certified, there are alot of really good casters out there now. go to any steelhead river and you will see. but for the guy that is just learning, he doesnt know who ed ward, mike kinney, etc and many others are. so someone who isnt in the know, is better off getting a certified instructor. (that is what certifications are for). and are you comparing yourself to these guys???

great idea, should stop alot of bitching. well done!

oh poor glenbow is ofended and not going to post here anymore. it is you that should be banned for misleading everyone and starting all this *hit.

well, if this was Tako 's last straw, iI would call mistrial. his response was based on misleading information. PK

San Juan. I had already read that post but decided to read it again and again anyways. Why wouldn't Glenbow have stated the fact that the fish that were captured were with SRD for egg/milt collection right from the start? if he had done so people could have learned from it. that is what fish look like when they are that far into their spawn. and by looking at some of the responses there are a lot of people that could have learnt from this. ( even some of your senior members, "Just look at the photo's, they don't look very tired and weak too me"). instead Glenbow was misleading and people assumed he caught those fish recreationally. Tako responded correctly (as did I), that he thought that those fish looked like they were on their redds. which they were. legal or not, to fish for them when they are in that condition, i believe is morally incorrect as do many others on the board. I bet everyone agrees that those are nice fish but bet everyone would also agree that it would be much nicer to catch a fish like that when it is in its travels. PK

no apologies to tako. come on he was completely correct.

well ban me too, because I have to agree with Tako. that creek is definately their spawning grounds, and those were more than likely taken off their redds. it is mid sept. yes those are great fish but i bet they are much better looking and harder fighting earlier on. PK

generally smallish rivers would require shorter casts (50-70 ft), therefore a shorter bellied line (skagit/scandi) is a better suited line. Why use a traditional 70 - 90 ft belly when you cant cast the full line. Also skagits were designed so one could cast heavy large flies and sink tips. It is just a bonus that you need less room behind with a skagit (less line to keep off the water)

Summer run steelhead enter freshwater as early as july and as late a november. They winter over and dont spawn until spring. Almost all of the summer run rivers are closed to fishing at the end of december. that means that these fish are not bothered at all for several months prior to spawning and after spawn so that they can make it back to the ocean and do it all again. the problem lies when a river has both winter and summer runs. the river will be open because of the fresh winter /spring run fish but the summer run fish are still in there also ( but a little worse for wear). unfortunatly some people will target these "older" fish. Rivers like the gold out on the island are now closed for a period in the spring to help solve this problem. Not sure about atlantics. With regards to fishing at the confluence when they are all stacked up isn't for me. I like a little bit more of a challenge. how many fish does one need to catch and how fun is it when you can catch one on every cast. there are fish all over the river. caught some real beauties ( rainbows) above carsland yesterday. Typically it is less experienced fisherman that will hang out at the confluence.

nice fly. they also work for summer runs. (lead eyes?)