Flytyer Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 For the first challenge we'll start with 2 mandatory materials. The fly can be any style you like dry, nymph, emerger etc. The mandatory materials will be philoplume/aftershaft feathers (feathers from behind the base of larger feathers) and natural dubbing- non synthetic. Deadline will be Fri. Nov. 28 @9PM Just photograph and post your creation to this thread to enter. This is not a contest but a method to exchange ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I had to admit I had to look this one up, but i have myself some of these and will whip up something Philoplume or aftershaft feathers, small feather at the base, Pictured to the left of the main feather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teck71 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I never thought of using that little feather, I guess now I will. great idea by the way Teck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flytyer Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Thanks LK for posting the picture.......I had to find one first but you beat me to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalters Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 As much as I'd like to join in, I'm gonna have to sit the first round out. I'm in the process of moving. I should be packing now but I had to check in & see what was going on in the world outside of work & boxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundvike Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Ok I would like to play but I am still a little confused by that feather. Is it a specific species pheasant, duck, etc.? or is it common on all species? What type of feather is that one LK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 that feather is from a pheasant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 420FLYFISHIN Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 i just tried my first it was a scud with the feather as the legs and hair dubbing for the body. It isnt good enough to post but i will try a few more things. does it have to be practical or just for looks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flytyer Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Ok I would like to play but I am still a little confused by that feather. Is it a specific species pheasant, duck, etc.? or is it common on all species? What type of feather is that one LK? You'll find these feathers on the body feathers of most birds, even hackle saddles and necks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flytyer Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 i just tried my first it was a scud with the feather as the legs and hair dubbing for the body. It isnt good enough to post but i will try a few more things. does it have to be practical or just for looks? Ideally it should be both but it can be either, if you are happy with the results you achieve then the goal of this exercise has been accomplished. "Thinking outside the box" so to speak is the real goal here; trying different things.....who knows you may even develop your own hot go to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flytyer Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 I assumed that you would realize that you can use more materials than just the aftershaft feather and dubbing; the dubbing may be dyed. I was asked these questions via Pm and I'm clarifying it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonAndersen Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Guys/Gals, Jack Garside has used this type of feather for a host of flies. Here is his take on the feather in an article from Blue Ribbon Flies entitled " What To Do With A Pheasant Skin" by Jack Gartside: The Aftershaft Underneath just about every body feather we've considered, you'll find another feather, a downy, usually grayish and very soft feather. This is the aftershaft feather (hypor hachis) or insulating feather. This feather is sometimes misidentified as a "philo" or "filo" feather or plume. There is such a feather as the "filoplume," but believe me this is NOT it. True filoplumes are those hair-like (filo means hair in Greek) single-strands with a tuft (or plume) on them. Filoplumes are visible only when you've plucked the skin almost bare and are of little use to the practical flytyer. The aftershaft feather has many uses: as very soft hackle for tying soft hackle flies or traditional wet flies, as wing cases on nymphs, as bodies (when wound on) for dragonfly nymphs, or for collars on my Sparrow nymph. One of my favorite aftershaft-bodied flies is the Wet Mouse, which can also be fished as a dragonfly nymph catch ya' Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 well lets get teh party started.... "aftershaft gray drake nymph" hook-mustad egg hook tail-aftershaft back-brown thin sking rib- copper wire body-wound aftershaft legs/antenna-rubber legs barred black/tan thorax and head- aftershaft for dubbing and thinskin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 well lets get teh party started.... "aftershaft gray drake nymph" hook-mustad egg hook tail-aftershaft back-brown thin sking rib- copper wire body-wound aftershaft legs/antenna-rubber legs barred black/tan thorax and head- aftershaft for dubbing and thinskin I like it. If fact I might scam it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flytyer Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Looks tasty Max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 have at it dudes! i can sell the one of a kind "original" at a reasonable pirce if yall wish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundvike Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 So after playing with the feathers a bit I figured they would work for a leech pattern so I came up with this. It is pretty rough cause I ran out of material. Hook: Nymph 2x #14 Bead: Gold 1/8" Thread: Tan uni 6/0 Tail: philoplume tips Body: Natural deer dubbing, palmered philoplume Dry Wet It has an action similar to marabou when stripped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipes Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Damselfly nymph - natural gray Hook - #12 2x curved shank Tail - aftershaft Back - mottled thin skin Abdomen - squirrel dub Thorax - squirrel dub, aftershaft and thin skin 8/0 olive thread black mono eyes weighted with lead wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 deadly dude! need too go buy a cheap green cape and rape n pillage the aftershaft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I guess I'm tying something else now.Nice ty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundvike Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Funny how similar the ideas have been for this. Damselfly was a pattern I had considered. Good ties all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flytyer Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 The entries look good so far guys, hopefully we'll see a few more before the deadline. I still have to photograph mine yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flytyer Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Here's a Sparrow variation: Hook: Mustad 9742 Tail: aftershaft fibers Body: sowbug dubbing Rib: 4lb mono Hackle: hen pheasant Collar: pheasant rump aftershaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flytyer Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Another variation: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Nice flies so far gents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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