Tako Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Mine's deer hair. I hate the crap with a passion. I tied 30 nymphs tonight. Tried to do a caddis and gave up I need a substitute for wings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbadbrent Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Unless you're spinning it, why bother with deer hair then? Most caddis will be fine tied with elk, which is easier to work with i hate glue and epoxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowwolf Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I am just starting out and am having a heck of a time with dubbing. Any tricks to it? I am using wax tried to do a couple without and that didn't work at first...L are there any tricks to get it evenly on the threat and uniformed so it goes on the hook better mine is all clumpy. maybe I am putting on too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Any fly with a goose biot tail. I can never get them to spread the way I want. Drives me nuts. I've seen some tie in both biots at the same time and I'm just in awe. Some ideas that I thought I would share: - I always slap on the hand lotion when using deer/elk hair. Stops the loose hair and underfur from sticking like magnets to my hands. - One day at the bank the teller had this little plastic thing used to moisten her fingers for counting money. I can't turn two pages without licking my finger so I asked her where she got it and if she liked it. They buy it from a local stationary place so I went and got some. It's great for dubbing. Not a wax, just a moisturizer. - if your dubbing is looking clumpy your probably using too much at once. Dub more sparsely and use more wraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulltrout Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 calftail...doesn't stack worth a damn and ya gotta torque the thread to tie in (which most often leads to snapping off)...nuff said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castuserraticus Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I am just starting out and am having a heck of a time with dubbing. Any tricks to it? I am using wax tried to do a couple without and that didn't work at first...L are there any tricks to get it evenly on the threat and uniformed so it goes on the hook better mine is all clumpy. maybe I am putting on too much. Two tricks: Apply in sparse amounts and build gradually. Also, spin one way only. I spin by pushing with the thumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryH Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 .........are there any tricks to get it evenly on the threat and uniformed so it goes on the hook better mine is all clumpy. maybe I am putting on too much. I agree with the previous post -- less dubbing on the thread and more wraps makes for better control. Also, keep good thread tension when wrapping. Lastly, wax is a must (for me at least) when dealing coarse spikey dubbing. However, use it only when necessary -- otherwise, I find it helpful to moisten my finger tips. I keep a wet sponge on my tying desk for that purpose. Re the main topic: my least favourite material is floss. It's always fun trying to keep it from "untwisting" and with my rough hands, it is easily frayed. I usually sandpaper (use emery board, not belt sander) my fingers before dealing with it Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownstone Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Unicorn hair is the worst .. and I'm not fond of using head cement .. I'd rather gob on epoxy then use cement to finish anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Mariboo, that stuff gets everywhere!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonAndersen Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 The stuff I hate is mascara. Getting it on straight on clouser eyes drives me crazy. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnotLikely Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 i hate glue and epoxy I second that, Zap-a-Gap, epoxy, hot glue, E-Z shape, Tuffleye...I hate them all. If you're not getting material that you don't want stuck to it, stuck to it, it's getting stuck to you, your tools or your bench. Though out of all of them, I think Tuffleye is probably the best to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigershark Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 I also struggle with deer hair. Elk hair is easier but the strands are too big for little caddis like 16s. Deer hair never stays where I want it. I just recently discovered going really thin with the dubbing and doing more wraps- so much better! Dubbing used to be my least fav. but now its all good. I'm always suprised on how little dubbing you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
126barnes Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 any kind of hair spun......................the only thing worst that spinning is trimming, worst than that .......................cleaning up the magnetised hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albannachxcuileag Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Floss! When you have skin like 40 grit Aluminium Oxide it just frays all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birchy Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 So far.. of all the material I have.. I hate my vise the most! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowwolf Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Two tricks: Apply in sparse amounts and build gradually. Also, spin one way only. I spin by pushing with the thumb. thanx for that was trying to roll it one back and forth will give her a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowwolf Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I agree with the previous post -- less dubbing on the thread and more wraps makes for better control. Also, keep good thread tension when wrapping. Lastly, wax is a must (for me at least) when dealing coarse spikey dubbing. However, use it only when necessary -- otherwise, I find it helpful to moisten my finger tips. I keep a wet sponge on my tying desk for that purpose. Re the main topic: my least favourite material is floss. It's always fun trying to keep it from "untwisting" and with my rough hands, it is easily frayed. I usually sandpaper (use emery board, not belt sander) my fingers before dealing with it Terry oh a belt sander on the fingers would be killer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 So far.. of all the material I have.. I hate my vise the most! Is this why you are looking at a Danvise? What are you currently using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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