birchy Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I got my box load of stuff from Tiana and Kerry and I'm ready to start tying!! I don't know what half the stuff I have IS.. but that's okay. What's the simplest fly to start out with? Other than a BAW of course.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbadbrent Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Maybe not the easiest, but the Wooly Bugger is probably the best fly to start with. It will teach you a lot about sizing, hackle sizing, palmering hackle...thats the fly i've taught more people as their first fly then any other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birchy Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Now that I think about it.. I suppose the materials that I have are going to dictate what I tie first!! haha. I have my "Fly Tying Bible" which is great.. problem is, I don't know what half of the materials I have are called. Some of the stuff is labelled.. most isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladystrange Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 dont worry about colour for now. i any feather hackle will do, any chenielle and any marabou. and you have will have a funky wooly bugger. i did throw in the bag of black marabou didnt i? i know kerry threw in the beads, leave them be for a bit. i have more deer hair than i could ever use, so go nuts with those bags of hair. if you need more, just let me know. try an elk hair caddis with deer. play with the dubbing, and plamering hackle then add the deer hair. killer dries. if the bible just gives patterns but no beginner stuff, try the concise hand book of fly tying by skip morris. very good for beginner skills try - brassie, gold ribbed hare's ear, the adams. streamers like the mickie finn are good and so are clousers. the other book i started with was fly tying techniqus and patterns - try wallmart. if you cant find it there, wholesale has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryfly Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 X-caddis: - tan antron shuck - dubbed tan body - tannish deer hair wing DONE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladystrange Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 oh yeah. and all the fur stuff that looks like it came from the animal and not a package, did. that is why it isnt labled. the 2 bags of deer are both mule. the long red feather is pheasant tail dyed red and the one that is natural that looks the same, is the same but well, umm, natural. for the dubbing, most of it is seal fur, not synthetic. dont worry about matching exact colours. the yarn can be used as a substitute for dubbing. i imagine the thread, floss and chenielle are straight forward. the brown fuzzy strips are beaver, the black lumppy fuzzy thing that used to be a hat is fox, the fluffy feathers in the bag with black, white and bluish are ostritch hear. the really light and fluffy (olive green i think) are CDC. anything else that could pass for dog, is probably wolf. the clump of white very translucent longish fur is polar bear. ummm. i cant remember what else was in there... we could play name that material, if you wanted to take pictures... LOL give us something to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladystrange Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 clive i didnt give him antron shuck. lol. i dont even think i have any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulltrout Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 go with a Rick's Mink pattern...nothing easier than just dubbing a hook and tying off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rocknbugs Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Hey dude, go out and buy "Fly Tying Made Clear & Simple" by Skip Morris. P. 9 shows all the tools the names of them and what they are used for. P. 12 & 13 show all the feathers, hair, dubbing, thread etc. it shows everything. Then there is a page about hooks, parst of the fly IE. thorax, legs, wing case, tail etc. When done there you tie a Ricks Caddis this will be the easiest fly you can tie besides a San Juan Worm. This book shows you how to thread the Bobbin, how to dress the hook, everything. If you are just starting I would recommend this book it is very clear and concise. Dave at FishTales recommended this book to me a few years back and I used it alot mind you I just started the beginners fly tying course at FishTales and it has really started to clear things up for me alot. If you want I can lend you mine, this book is great for us beginners, give it a try. Peace, Rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birchy Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 How the H E double hockey sticks do I get the rabbit fur wrapped around the thread as dubbing??!! I'm thinking I need some wax.. but don't have any old candles or anything around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birchy Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Uh oh.. I think that was a stupid question!! Now that I see the little packages labelled "dubbing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rocknbugs Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Hey dude, go out and buy "Fly Tying Made Clear & Simple" by Skip Morris. P. 9 shows all the tools the names of them and what they are used for. P. 12 & 13 show all the feathers, hair, dubbing, thread etc. it shows everything. Then there is a page about hooks, parst of the fly IE. thorax, legs, wing case, tail etc. When done there you tie a Ricks Caddis this will be the easiest fly you can tie besides a San Juan Worm. This book shows you how to thread the Bobbin, how to dress the hook, everything. If you are just starting I would recommend this book it is very clear and concise. Dave at FishTales recommended this book to me a few years back and I used it alot mind you I just started the beginners fly tying course at FishTales and it has really started to clear things up for me alot. If you want I can lend you mine, this book is great for us beginners, give it a try. Peace, Rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birchy Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Oh.. and i'm trying a BH hare's ear in case you didn't figure that out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rocknbugs Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Sorry for the double post......brain fart city!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birchy Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 *Edit* I'll start a new thread for the finished product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladystrange Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 no laughing here, it is a decent attempt that will probably catch fish. try it out one day. have fun and be creative edit: you dont need dubbing wax. just wet your fingers a little bit and use a little bit of material at a time and spin on to the thread a little at a time. try adding some deer hair as a tail to build on your skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhuseby Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 That is a dandy looking first fly, you'll definitely get fish with it. Bead sizes can vary for the same hook and pattern, depending how much flash effect you want and how fast you want the fly to sink. That bead looks fine to me. The first guy that ever watched me tie went home and tied up what he called the "pheasant feather fly". He used shoe stitching thread to lash down a chunk of pheasant tail at the eye and bend of the hook. I accepted the gift and caught a brown on it the next time I was out. Just experiment with materials and techniques and fish with the results. That's how great discoveries in tying are made. Welcome to the world of the only slightly demented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryfly Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Nothing to do with the fly (Nice BTW Birchy!) What the heck is with the times noted for the posts in this thread..."Yesterday, 11:58 PM " Huh! I posted just a while back..not 23 hours back. ???????? Am I losing it? Again? Still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inconnu Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Birchy if you go to Canadian Tire and pick up a wax toilet gasket it will give you enough dubbing wax for the next two decades. It is soft beeswax and I have been using it for probably 15 years now. I think it will cost you 2 to 3 dollars if I remember correctly. Use a sucrets tin or something like it and put a bit into that and store the rest, or gice it away.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailhead Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I have previously mentioned the Hook and Hackle Club, a good inexpensive way to learn how to tie flies, and interact with fellow flyfishers. But I understand that you are a new father and that does cut into the time available to be away on fish type activities. So you can always try out the show on channel 14 (PBS) at 7:30 AM on Saturday called "Flytying, the Anglers Art." The tyers have some great patterns, both established and new ones, and some really good tips on tying. Plus just by watching an accomplished tyer you really do learn a lot. Oh and that is a really great first tie on the BHGRHE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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