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White flag eh...Well I usually pull the trigger, but I'll make an exception in this case and accept your appology and plea of insanity, for this one time...I'll scratch your name off the list...grin.
Cheers...
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you are also guilty:
Of course rod mfg.'s try and sell their rods...duh...
grin...C'mon, that was just a little poke at ya...don't take it too seriously...
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pkk, I think we will eventually see line manufactures develop/market nymph and other specailty lines for these light Switch/Spey rods at some point, as we are now seeing with Skagit and Scandi Compact heads in the lighter line weights etc. The use of these types of two handed rods has been growing rapidly and it's only a matter of time in my view.
There once was a time when nymph specific lines did not exist for single hand rods either.... And no worries, I have no problem discussing Spey/Fly fishing with anyone, as long as they leave the childish, character bashing, chest thumpin', mine's bigger than yours ego's, out of it and stick to the topic of discussion...
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dude is just trying to sell rods.
Of course rod mfg.'s try and sell their rods...duh...So are you suggesting that the statements I quoted from the RB Meiser web site about the applications that are suitable for these lightweight Spey rods, are false?
why havent the line companies come up with a "nymphing line" spey rods.
There are many excellent Spey/Switch, rods/lines on the market allready, that are excellent for all nymphing methods/tactics, including rods by Meiser, Anderson, Beulah, Loop, Winston, Sage ect, ect...
a good speycast with a single hand rod is very effective.
In the hands of a skilled Spey caster/fisher, absolutely true...
PK
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How about posting your opinions, experiences on the topic, SamIam and leave the childish comments out of this discussion.
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Rebuttal, sure...
I think Bob Meiser sum's it up best...Check out his comments about the appropriate applications for his Highlander
"Trouter" Series Two handers...
And I quote... "They are first and foremost: Superb fishing tools..."
"Trouting with an extremely lightweight two handed rod is as lethally effective as it is fun to do. When balanced too proper lines, all classic Trouting techniques can be applied: Wet fly and soft hackle swing, dead drift dry fly presentations, streamer fishing, high stick nymphing and indicator nymphing, are all suitable techniques for the lightweight two hander"... R.B. Meiser
http://www.meiserflyrods.com/highlander.html
I guess Boy Wonder and his pals (clients), should be emailing him with their theories (bs), too notify Mr. Meiser and his thousands of satisfied customers from around the world, that they have got it all wrong.
The Spey Revolution is here...
Greg
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Great post flyon, thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts on the topic...
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LOL...I actually turned the sound up...hahaha...purrrrfect...
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Your *hit is getting a little old too Max...
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Toolman...are you a Cambellton boy?
Val and I are going back to the Miramichi this coming Summer for a few weeks...and maybe the Humber in Nfld...you never know whom you might meet on the water!
C
Close, I'm from Dalhousie, but I did live in Campbellton for a couple of years as well. The Miramichi is an incredible river system and the next time I head back to the Maritimes, I'm going to try and fish it for a couple of days.
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Really... no character generalizations there in your comments, Al? Maybe you should review your post again. But, don't waste your time crafting a reply, as "it would be lost on me"...You probably don't see anything wrong with that comment either, eh...seeing as how "I need to have my head checked throughly" and all...
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Greg,
You seem hell bent on turning everything into a competition of sorts. In general when people do not adhere to your approach to angling (using the big stick for nearly everything) you start to proselytize the benefits of the long rods and question their approach.
al
So, when we disagree, you choose to make personal attacks?...How about keeping your comments/opinions directed at the subject matter and stick too sharing your experiences. And try and accept that others (not in your small clique), may have something to add to the discussion that may be contrary to your opinions. I too, expressed my preference, experiences and opinion and have also stated many times, that fly fisherman should fish whatever way that suits them best. I also listened respectfully, without making personal attacks, to your views and opinions on the subject....But, if someone makes claims that are contrary to fact/science, then expect that some may disagree. And contrary to your belief, successfull flyfishing is indeed about logic and understanding the science...
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You have to wonder then, why many of the International flyfishing team members are showing up at the World Flyfishing Championships with 11'- 12' rods, too fish streams the size of Stauffer, using these rods for all of their fishing techniques, from the various nymphing tactics, including close up fishing such as Czech/Polish nymphing, dry fly presentations, Loch fishing out of boats or from Lake shorelines, etc.? Contrary to what you guys may believe is best, I think these guys have the science of flyfishing pretty much figured out...IMHO, long rods rule, anytime, anyplace, anywhere...
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Jay, the Rio AFS line will be fine... Good luck and good fishing. We'll hit the Bow in the New Year.
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LOL...Thanks again, Orvisonly...Always a good punch line to go with the bs...I think we should start a petition to make the Bow Spey fishing only... and "bad luck shall fall upon all, who cast their fly upstream..."
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LOL...Yeah, there's been a lot of re-inventing the worm, over the years, Don..
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This nymphing technique is known as Spanish Nymphing, using what is sometimes refered too as a Bolero rig...(sp?).
The point fly is usually the heaviest, but some fisherman use split shot instead of a point fly. (I don't)
I've had success with this method using 20' leaders, during hatch season, when the trout are willing to sit/feed higher in the water column, using emergers on the top droppers and a heavy SJW/Clouser/Stonefly nymph as the point fly, ect. But, if the trout have their noses stuck in the rocks, then that's where all of the nymphs need to be as well and you will lose a few flys. The differences between many of the European nymphing techniques often appear to be very subtle, but when used in the appropriate situations, for the correct water type/conditions, they are very effective.
http://www.bluequillangler.com/BQA-Univers...nish-Nymphing_2
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Yeah, hands down the single hander is far better and more enjoyable for nymphing than the double hander in my opinion.
I impress pretty easily Al, yet I'm still unimpressed by some.
I understand the more enjoyable part of using your 9'6"single hander for nymphing, if that's your thing and what you know how to do best, but can you explain how using a 9'6" single hander is far better for nymphing, than a two hander?
What perceived advantages do you see and using what Nymphing methods/techniques are you seeing these benefits, High Sticking, Czech Nymphing, Long line indicator fishing, Spanish Nymphing, Polish Nymphing?
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Hey Gordon, you also fished the Bow this year.
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I've had the opportunity to work with some great Spey casting instructors over the past 7 months, which really put my focus on the casting and less on the fishing...That and getting out on the water another 100 times since May, too practise, has also made a big difference...I did sneak in some fish slammin' along the way though, as the fishing was just too good to resist...
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Jay, what line are you using on your Loop Spey rod?
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I never roll cast but always use Spey casts where the line is completely aerialized off of the water. Doubles, Circles, Snake Rolls, Perry Pokes etc.
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Al, I can cast a heavy triple Nymph rig using any type of Spey cast, without any problem with tangles.
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I spent the majority of my year on the Bow, as usual and the fishing was sensational... I did get out too a couple of interesting waters on a few occassions, with trips too the Palmer Ranch, in Southern Alberta...private Trophy Lakes in the Cypress Hills of eastern Alberta and Bullshead Res., near Medicine Hat. I had to cancel planned Steelhead trips to the Bulkley River in Smithers, BC and a couple of trips back too my home town to fish the mighty Restigouche for Atlantics.
Being the single parent of two teenagers, sometimes sucks...well most of the time really...lol.
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