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Yesterday (Sun. 22) we found a fly rod on the Bow.
Call me at 403 279-8333 (before 4:00) and I'll get it back to you.
Brunsie
Hey I tried calling the number and she said there was no Brunsie working there. Is it a Orvis T3 by any chance?
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We forgot an Orvis T3 8'6" 5wt with a mid arbor batten kill reel on the left bank above the carpet. If someone sees it, can they grab it please!
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Can anyone recomend a shop in Calgary, that sprays box liners? Also how long does it take for it to set up?
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Post of the year for sure!! Love it!!
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it makes no diff at all on whose fault it is , it happen and it's still a spill of oil on a water way , thats all my point is , maybe next time it might be into the bow river , how would we all like to see that happen , think about if it had happen and went into the oldman river or for gods sake even the crowsnest ,
it's done now and the clean up is happening , i'd just like to see them at least make a effort and replace those pipes or do a better way around water or rivers , maybe fine the shiz out of them companys who are at fault
I agree whole heartedly with what your saying. After the first one South of Zama and now this one, they should be fined and shut down. Theres no doubt in my mind that they are not following a prescibed maintanece scedule or following the regulations. However they wont be shut down, but I'm sure they will be heavily fined. As far as I'm conserned all the pipe lines around water should be exposed on piles and risers. That way they could have a visual inspection and preform particle tests to verify integrity.
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thats just way to funny john
3 party or not john , my whole point is , '''it's a oil spill into a river ''' , not a litter of oil on the ground , a tad bit more , i'm sure no one wanted this to happen but it did , like you said , time maybe they start digging these old pipes with no oil in them up , or maybe start to replace the pipes near any water ways , or even dig them up at river crossing and replace with better pipe and put them in the ground another 20 feet more
whatever is done needs to be done now , before another spill comes
and yes i agree with your statement about your neighbor spills oil in his driveway and no one says or gets up in arms , i think if he dumped 3000 barrels in his driveway john , the shiz would hit the fan and you for one would want him in jail ,
I'm well aware that 1L doesn't compare to 3000bbL, I was just making a point.
Pick up your phone you Putz!
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So Plains Midstream would not be classified as an oil company despite the activities that include "crude oil transportation, gathering, marketing, terminalling and storage as well as marketing and storage of liquefied petroleum gas and other petroleum products".
Spin on John.
Plains' operations can be categorized into two main business groups - Crude Oil and Liquefied Petroleum Gases ("LPG"). Our Crude Oil group handles the gathering, marketing, storage, terminalling and transportation of various grades of crude oil. We handle crude oil in the provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, as well as in Montana and North Dakota of the United States.
Our LPG group handles the storage, transportation, terminalling and marketing of a variety of liquefied petroleum gases, such as propane, butane, and intermediates products (including natural gasoline, ethanol, naphtha, pentane, and aromatics).
So no, I do not consider them to be an oil company, Plains Midstream is a Transportation and storage company. If a trucker is hauling bailsof hay does that make him a farmer? At least you looked at the web page though, kudo's to you!
Look @ me spin
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It's a deflection because you're passing blame on someone else.
Who's the 3rd party? Is it not Plains Midstream's responsibilty to ensure the safety of the pipeline?
Plains midstream is the 3rd party. An oil company will drill and produce the oil or gas and then some of them 3rd party out the transportation, to companies like Plains Midstream.
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Deflection!
How is that a deflection, it's reality! If I punch you in the head you can't blame my neighbor, can you?
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This thread is not about those issues, but what is most disturbing is that you use other dangers to wildlife and the environment to justiify the oil industries negligance.
Spin Doctor Sun, FFC's Oil rep, expert in damage control, deflections, and disinformation.
I don't think that is what he is doing at all. However I agree it's funny how many people jump on the "down with the oil field" ban wagon. While other industries do just as much damage and no one seems to give a sh!t. The oil field is just an easier target I guess. It drives me nuts when people who have no idea about the industry, can start bashing it! In the 12 short years I've been on drilling side, I've watched the industry do leaps and bounds with safety and enviroment. With any major player, it's always the main priorty. If we spill a gallon of oil on the ground, we need to report it, dig it down to clean soil, replace the soil and filter the contaminated soil. mean while my neighbors car dumps a liter on the road every time he parks it and no one cares, weird.
And Dutch it wasn't an oil company, the pipe lines were 3rd partyed out.
I don't think anyone is trying to justify the spill, but there going to happen with some of the shape these pipe lines are in. I think they need to have stricter rules on how long a pipe line can stay in the ground. I also think that they need better monitering on the flows going through them. Sun dance is right though, with todays materials and practices, the new lines are way more reliable. The majority of these ruptured lines are 40+ yrs old.
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Does anyonr have one of these boats, or know someone who does? I have a couple questions about there preformance.
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After only being on the river once so far this year, i saw 1 other drift boat, 5 jets. It was frustrating because not a single one of the jets showed any respect for the guys on the bank, or us. I don't know if a ban should be put in place, but almost something sort of like a limit? Where the river only allows X many number of jets on the river, or maybe a permit where it costs you X number of dollars per month or something? Although if you're going to limit one type of boat, then you likely have to limit others so the same can be said for drift boats.
I'm not completely sure on where i stand on this matter but i am leaning more towards the anti jet side. But if there isn't going to be a ban, or a limit put in place, i'd just like to see some etiquette. Because i know that having a jet rip down through the wOdater in July does put the dry fly fishing down, for a solid length of time, long enough that you lose that entire bank on your float through. Same with when they run up a run while you're upstream floating, you know that run is shot, while maybe not for the whole day, but for the 10 seconds you get to fish it on your float through it.
On the back of our drift boat, we have a long shaft motor, that gets up the runs, while it doesn't do it quickly like a jet, it does the job and causes little wake if any, that being said during low water conditions right now, using the motor makes no sense, and just causes problems for people in the river and the other drift boats.
Bottom line, everyone has to respect everyone. But there will always still be some complainers.
Question for ya, how did I show you no respect when you floated past my kids and I. I'm quite curious as to what you expect from people. Was the boat anchored at the bottom of the run and everyone in the boat Saying hello as you floated past, not enough for you?
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Personally, if I was spending $500.00 to enjoy nature, I would be bothered more by the thousands of golf balls, dirty syringes and tampon applicators floating through the runs. Nothing says the great outdoors like catching a used condom!
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Your right, 12yrs in the industry is not enough. I'm going to hit the books tonight, a couple of magazine articles and I should be up to pair with you! Thanks for the advice.
I'm sorry for hijacking B.T.W. and just to clairify, I'm not pro pipe line. I think it's a huge mistake and if it goes through, there will be intigtaty issues with it in the future. There always is.
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Wow, you honestly think Alberta is the only oil strong hold left. Hate to tell you but you are sadly mistaken. There is oil all over the world. Don't get me wrong, the sands do house a lot of oil, but come on.
Are you honestly going to try and blame the loss of manufacturing in ON. on oil prices. Get off the ganja, manufacturing has been out source overseas and Mexico due to the cost of labour. In todays economy you can't afford to work on an assembly line for 6 bucks an hour. The companys make more money and get more production by outsourcing, it's happening every where. Next your going to tell me Hardy had to cut production in England because of BIG OIL.
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That's the problem.....why should we be concerned with how much money big oil makes? It's Canada's oil. Not Enbridge's. The government controls what happens to it. They should be telling 'big oil' to refine it here and provide jobs to Canadians. Piping it direct to asia is exporting it in its cheapest form. Exporting raw product didn't work so well for the lumber industry. I run out of fingers if I start counting off the sawmills in northern BC that have shut down over the last 5 or 6 years. Force them to refine it here, stop subsidizing them, stop shipping out raw resources. Piping out raw resources kills our economy. Good for big business, good for harper, but bad for joe taxpayer. It's not about hating all development projects, it's about hating shitty ones that screw Canadians. All risk, no reward.
For starters, it's not Canada's oil. It's who ever pays to get it out of the ground! And you should be concerned about how much money "big oil" makes. Because if it starts to cost to much, they'll just pick up there roots and go else where. It's not like Alberta is the only provider of oil in the world. I'm not saying Canada should just bend over, but if we start demanding they buy refined oil from us, they WILL go else where! And before anyone says great, let them go rape, pillage and destroy some where else. You really need to consider how much of an impact it would have on this country. I would also have to agree with Rick r, it really isn't economically feasible for us to have our own refineries here. Maybe for Canada's personal use, but not for export. The cost behind building them would be huge, as would the evrionmental impact. Besides, YOU STILL NEED TO TRANSPORT THE REFINED PRODUCT SOME HOW. It's not like bulk oil gets shipped in 1L containers!
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Hey Monger, is the pic of the Elk on Sandra's property?
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Wet Duck got me in to Airflo's Cold Water 20lb running line. I like it a lot, now on 2 reels.
Ya I've heard it was great to work with in the winter. But I'm trying to get away from 20lb.
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Thanks for all the replies guy's, I think I'm going to try it. With a 510, 550 grain heads the 55lb should be fine right?
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Thanks guys! Dutchie,
I think I'll still hold on to my running lines for a while! Thanks for the info guys. I really like the idea with the rubber. I'll bet you could just stretch a chunk of 10 speed tire tube over the cork! Have any of you guys tried miracle braid or the gl shooter shooting lines? -
Hey guys, right now I'm using 20lb Ridge Line. I love the thickness of it and how good it shoots. But I'm really scared of snagging up and having it break off. So I was thinking about going to a Frog hair or Slick shooter style of line? I curious as to want your guy's experinces are with them. Pro's, con's, likes, dislikes?
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You must've done a rain dance Rick. It started pouring down here today!
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I've been working in South Texas ( Uvalde to Larado ) for the past yr. The effects down he are insane. Two of my hands lost their houses in Magnolia last wk.
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You are correct. You pretty much have to take all your music transfer it to your new computer, plug in you ipod/iphone and begin from scratch with your device. For apps with iphone i think you have to authorized the the phone on the new comp, that you can right click on the phones name in Itunes and select to transfer your purchases to the new computer. but it will still take a long time to re install everything.
O.K. I can deal with that, most of my music is on an external anyhow. What I'm really concerned about is my contacts and apps. I don't want to transfer my phone and it wipe out my numbers!
Thanks by the way!!
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Hyde sells them, that's where I got mine.