Lawn Experts Please Help

[ppb]

Hey Lad,

Can anyone walk into Ufa and buy the trillion or par 3 over the counter or do you need a membership or need to be farmer etc. I've never stepped foot in a ufa but it sure would be nice to pick some up to control the neighbors weeds from creeping into my yard.

[lad]

A 10 liter jug of Trillion from UFA is currently 129$ Par 3 is also 129$ for the 10 liter jug.

 

I was told at UFA they are the same and have bought both and could not detect any difference.

You need to show them a land location like an acreage, farmland or Golf course with your name on it like a property tax bill where it would be legal to do so. You need to sign for it and they need to keep track of where it is being used. The fear is that some people will use it in a harmful way such as spraying way to much of it just before a big rainstorm and it being washed into the storm sewers etc. and going directly into the rivers. In their eyes you can not handle the responsibility but every golf course and farmer can. At one time it was not like this and the weed and feed and other types of herbicide worked well but they outlawed it and only the biggest users still have access. Imagine how many thousands of gallons of the stuff is used just on the golf courses in Calgary..... If you do use it just read all directions and be very responsible with its use. Lots of reading material on line. The active ingredient is 2,4-d and you can still buy it in some consumer products but it is so watered down it ends up costing much more. Bought 10 liters at a time ends up costing about 21 cents per liter instead of 15.00 $ per liter.....75 times as much!

[ppb]

 

I was affraid that would be the case, I guess I wont be getting my hands on any par 3 or trillion as I dont know any farm or acerage owners to hook me up.

Thanks for the info Lad.

[bigfry]

So I got back from my float today. Wife and kid were out. So what else to do but water my lawn.

 

Then I thought what the heck let's herbicide my lawn.

 

Mixed up 12 L for my 1200 sqft of lawn. In 2 6L batches

 

The pump sprayer I bought worked like a charm. I think it cost 40.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0E5FBjo93Lda1k2bjJibW56VU0

 

I sprayed everything except my new sod and a buffer of 1 ft around it. It was so easy to get an even coat.

 

I even had just enough left over to spray plants coming up on the other side of my house.

 

I'm not that confident it's gonna kill my clover problem after all the weed n feed and killex I used that did not work previously

 

We shall see I guess.

[bigfry]

well yesterday i noticed some of the clovers were not looking so clovery any more, noticed that the dandelion leaves are starting to curl and the dandelion flowers are not standing up anymore.

 

The lawn has never looked so good!

[bigfry]

I just don't know. Maybe I'm super impatient. But how long is it supposed to take for clover to die from an application of 2-4-d?

This is a patch of clover on my lawn currently:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0E5FBjo93LdUHF2TFZwTW1TMWs

 

As you can see it takes over 1/4 of my lawn. Which is complete bullshit. I'm just worried I didn't actually kill the patch and just killed some leafs

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0E5FBjo93LdYTgwQ2swOVBFQ1k

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0E5FBjo93LdTjFzZDcybnpyVlE

 

 

How long do I have to wait before I can spot spray it?

[lad]

I just don't know. Maybe I'm super impatient. But how long is it supposed to take for clover to die from an application of 2-4-d?

This is a patch of clover on my lawn currently:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0E5FBjo93LdUHF2TFZwTW1TMWs

 

As you can see it takes over 1/4 of my lawn. Which is complete bullshit. I'm just worried I didn't actually kill the patch and just killed some leafs

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0E5FBjo93LdYTgwQ2swOVBFQ1k

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0E5FBjo93LdTjFzZDcybnpyVlE

 

 

How long do I have to wait before I can spot spray it?

 

I just don't know. Maybe I'm super impatient. But how long is it supposed to take for clover to die from an application of 2-4-d?

This is a patch of clover on my lawn currently:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0E5FBjo93LdUHF2TFZwTW1TMWs

 

As you can see it takes over 1/4 of my lawn. Which is complete bullshit. I'm just worried I didn't actually kill the patch and just killed some leafs

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0E5FBjo93LdYTgwQ2swOVBFQ1k

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0E5FBjo93LdTjFzZDcybnpyVlE

 

 

How long do I have to wait before I can spot spray it?

I spot spray everything on the lawn from the beginning. Spray all of the Clover on the heavy side with your trillion in the morning just after any dew is gone. Clover likes low nitrogen conditions too so get a fertilizer that is very high in nitrogen when you are trying to "clean up" the lawn. Go heavier with it and i would pass on the slow release types too. Keep the lawn short and Mow often, not that your going to have a choice after the high nitrogen content fertilizer.

[bigfry]

 

I spot spray everything on the lawn from the beginning. Spray all of the Clover on the heavy side with your trillion in the morning just after any dew is gone. Clover likes low nitrogen conditions too so get a fertilizer that is very high in nitrogen when you are trying to "clean up" the lawn. Go heavier with it and i would pass on the slow release types too. Keep the lawn short and Mow often, not that your going to have a choice after the high nitrogen content fertilizer.

I wish I could have spot sprayed but by the time I finished my lawn the first side would be growing new weeds lol. I just sprayed the whole lawn

 

How long should I wait before I reapply by spot spraying. I am very terrified to burn and kill my lawn.

[BigFoamy]

Easy man, 2-4-d is a plant steroid. the plants need time to out grow themselves. It will happen man, dont sweat it. Mow every 3 days and dont over water!!!! Give it a couple of weeks. You'll be amazed!! TP is good stuff man, thats why you can't go to the store and buy it! It'll work providing you mix it correctly. Clovers a nasty little sucker.

 

You will never kill all of your weeds off, its a constant battle. Clovers a bitch!!! I can't stop it because my neighbour is one of those "natural" guys and his lawn is basically all clover and 100 other kinds of weeds, they just dont care what there yard looks like and it makes my yard look worse, its awful! IMO, if your yard is connected to someone else's yard, you're obligated to maintain yours. My neighbour does not, he's such a dick to boot. He's one of those americans that literally looks down on candadians and has zero friends on the street. He hates me because i got his kid into fly fishing and he's always over here talking to me and getting flies!!! Take your kid fishing bro!!! and mow your weeds while your at it!!!

[bigfry]

couple of weeks! its taking so long!!! i need instant gratification now!!!! lol

 

I mowed it yesterday and only took a little off

 

thinking tomorrow evening i will mow it again.

 

Luckily for me my neighbor is an old grandma with a perfect lawn. I volunteered to take care of it since shes too old to now push a mower.

 

Cant wait till my lawn is that easy to maintain its amazing what a couple years of negligence can do to a lawn

 

so this trillion p would not be a good idea to reapply in a couple weeks to help in the battle or will it kill my grass?

[lad]

The trillion will not kill your grass if you spray every second day as long as you mix it at the correct ratio. If you are starting out I would keep making rounds and spot spraying any weed that looks like it is not dying every three days. You are going to need to spray the clover more that the other weeds.

[BigFoamy]

couple of weeks! its taking so long!!! i need instant gratification now!!!! lol

 

I mowed it yesterday and only took a little off

 

thinking tomorrow evening i will mow it again.

 

Luckily for me my neighbor is an old grandma with a perfect lawn. I volunteered to take care of it since shes too old to now push a mower.

 

Cant wait till my lawn is that easy to maintain its amazing what a couple years of negligence can do to a lawn

 

so this trillion p would not be a good idea to reapply in a couple weeks to help in the battle or will it kill my grass?

Wait until you see plants starting to grow out. dandies should be already, they go quick. Clovers a bitch! I wouldn't start spot spraying until you see death and are convinced you missed some stuff, it happens and a lot of weeds come up after you spray. Its really a battle we can't win

 

If you cans see that you're clover is nice and green and thriving, hit it with a shot. With such a new lawn, your going to have weeds. eventually your grass should choke some out and with mowing and maintenance your lawn will be great. I dont think it needs to worry about being neglected lol.

 

If you want to see a huge improvement, dont mow it for 5 days. You've been on it now just let it grow a bit. Its hard, I know but, plants need time to grow

[SilverDoctor]

Clover is the only thing that makes my lawn green

[bigfry]

i took a walk over my lawn this morning and "some" of the dandelion leaves have turned purple. the majority have not and look pretty healthy. no change in the clovers.

 

this evening i am going to give a quick water then mix me up another batch of the good stuff and make sure spot spray to get even coats on every single weed and every part of the clovers.

 

i will have a clover and weed free lawn within the month, mark my words.

[Dangus]

i took a walk over my lawn this morning and "some" of the dandelion leaves have turned purple. the majority have not and look pretty healthy. no change in the clovers.

 

this evening i am going to give a quick water then mix me up another batch of the good stuff and make sure spot spray to get even coats on every single weed and every part of the clovers.

 

i will have a clover and weed free lawn within the month, mark my words.

Exactly why these products are horseshit. It's supposed

To piss rain tomorrow. Ends up down the storm drain before it's broken down. Should be good for the river plant life.

[bigfry]

I didn't end up spraying after looking at the forecast. I think I'm just super impatient. I'm gonna let the 2-4-d do its. Magic

[BigFoamy]

Exactly why these products are horseshit. It's supposed

To piss rain tomorrow. Ends up down the storm drain before it's broken down. Should be good for the river plant life.

Cool buddy!!!

 

Im going to spray and fertilize right f'ing now!!

[BigFoamy]

I didn't end up spraying after looking at the forecast. I think I'm just super impatient. I'm gonna let the 2-4-d do its. Magic

let it happen and ignore bron. he prolly dont even have a yard lol. or maybe he's my neighbour, the clover farmer lol!!!

[bigfry]

let it happen and ignore bron. he prolly dont even have a yard lol. or maybe he's my neighbour, the clover farmer lol!!!

Probably is. Maybe u should offer him some trillion. Ha ha

[BigFoamy]

Probably is. Maybe u should offer him some trillion. Ha ha

OMG, my neighbour used to look after his yard and then one year decided to quite. All he does is mows so he's a giant weed spreader, its awful, yards are attached. I swear he does it out of spite.

 

Theres a spot down by the road that I literally hit with round up once a month just to keep his quack grass from coming into my yard. Its even worse than clover, you can't get rid of quack grass. THATS WHY YOU DONT USE THOSE GUYS THAT GO DOOR TO DOOR WITH THE AERATORS!!!!! You can get weeds under control but, quack/crab grass is the WORST!!!!

 

My back yard is a lost cause, I dont even try anymore. It sucks because of my neighbours, both sides. They're way to busy washing their hummers and benz's grime and chemical filth into the river while complaining about people that spray weeds lol. Its like people that drink alcohol but, dont do drugs lolololololololololol. %$#@ I can feel the rage, anyways…

 

I mow my front and backyard on different days and wash my mower severely before I do the front.

[bigfry]

OMG, my neighbour used to look after his yard and then one year decided to quite. All he does is mows so he's a giant weed spreader, its awful, yards are attached. I swear he does it out of spite.

 

Theres a spot down by the road that I literally hit with round up once a month just to keep his quack grass from coming into my yard. Its even worse than clover, you can't get rid of quack grass. THATS WHY YOU DONT USE THOSE GUYS THAT GO DOOR TO DOOR WITH THE AERATORS!!!!! You can get weeds under control but, quack/crab grass is the WORST!!!!

 

My back yard is a lost cause, I dont even try anymore. It sucks because of my neighbours, both sides. They're way to busy washing their hummers and benz's grime and chemical filth into the river while complaining about people that spray weeds lol. Its like people that drink alcohol but, dont do drugs lolololololololololol. %$#@ I can feel the rage, anyways…

 

I mow my front and backyard on different days and wash my mower severely before I do the front.

thats intense, i don't think i would get that extreme to washing the mower every time i mow the front or back yard! I think if it was at that point i may just resod the whole yard.

 

would u like some 2,4-D to get it under control. i heard its gonna rain today, u should spray it before it rains.

[Dangus]

I'm just impressed you guys can even see your screens with all your mouth-breathing.

[bigfry]

I'm just impressed you guys can even see your screens with all your mouth-breathing.

why would mouth breathing prevent me from seeing my screen. does nose breathing prevent you from seeing your feet

[Dangus]

Yes, I have a surface capable of forming condensation on between my nose and my feet.

 

Brilliant retort. I wouldn't expect anything less.

[bigfry]

Yes, I have a surface capable of forming condensation on between my nose and my feet.

 

Brilliant retort. I wouldn't expect anything less.

Yes because I sit so close to the computer to create condensation on the screen u fukin tool. Think about what you said u fukin troll.

 

Go back to your kiddy porn site. Sit a bit farther away from the screen troll