Notley's Staff....anti-Oil Activists From Toronto...wow!

[Vagabond]

Love to stay n chat fellas,but I'm actually out the door,off to meet a guy to buy yet another rifle that I don't really need....just because I CAN with some of that expendable oilfield income I earn as a Right Wingnut,gun totin',elk slayn redneck.

Actually....it's for 12yo Jr. Mini-me.....can't be coddling them kids don'tcha know....gotta rais'em right,teach'em how to provide for themselves,shoot straight,and defend what's yours from terrorists both foreign and domestic.

Sadly,with the Leftard politically correct views of tolerance these days,foreign and domestic will likely be one in the same soon enuf?

Sharia Law....coming soon to a mosque near you.

 

Ha ha,well Jayhad,you landlockers still don't know how to a anchor a boat properly as far as I'm concerned.....hell,yas had to design a boat specifically to be anchored in the wrong direction,lol.

[Jayhad]

I lived on the coast for 21 years, when are you going to stop being wrong with your statements?

[scel]

Love to stay n chat fellas,but I'm actually out the door,off to meet a guy to buy yet another rifle that I don't really need....just because I CAN with some of that expendable oilfield income I earn as a Right Wingnut,gun totin',elk slayn redneck.

Actually....it's for 12yo Jr. Mini-me.....can't be coddling them kids don'tcha know....gotta rais'em right,teach'em how to provide for themselves,shoot straight,and defend what's yours from terrorists both foreign and domestic.

Sadly,with the Leftard politically correct views of tolerance these days,foreign and domestic will likely be one in the same soon enuf?

Sharia Law....coming soon to a mosque near you.

 

Ha ha,well Jayhad,you landlockers still don't know how to a anchor a boat properly as far as I'm concerned.....hell,yas had to design a boat specifically to be anchored in the wrong direction,lol.

 

It is really embarrassing and disappointing to read this.

[vhawk12]

As 'passionate' as some of his above posts were, I think the one you're referring to is a bit more tongue-in-cheek and attempt at a lighter post. I think what he's doing is called: hyperbole

 

I would be interested to hear other guide's numbers as to what percentage of their client base they feel is from the O&G industry. Although with the Bow being rated Blue Ribbon, it's understandable that at least half or more are foreign/tourists.

 

As far as anchors....seems to me they should be arguing more about whether you anchor off the left side or the right side of the boat.

[jimbow]

one thing that sticks in my craw about these discussions is throwing around words like "socialist libtards" or "leftards". your position loses a lot of credibility at that point.

 

it's not a simple left vs right and to view it that way is simplistic and hardly looking at the big picture. i would be totally supportive of many "leftard" policies but at the same time supportive of many policies that would be considered on the right. who do people like me (and i think there are a lot of them) support in the current political climate?

 

the federal PC party was a possible choice at one time as was the Lougheed gov't. now that's over. very frequently i have not had a vote counted in a federal or provincial election - i always exercised my right to vote but my ballot would not be counted. but there was not a candidate or party i could stomach to cast a vote for. this past provincial election i was able to cast a countable vote - for the sole Alberta Party MLA.

 

in the upcoming federal election I'm looking pretty hard at Kent Hehr. hard for me to believe i would consider voting liberal but he's a damn good candidate that i believe would actually represent Calgary very well.

 

there is a lot wrong with our political processes starting with the winner take all voting system. i believe we need proportional representation in this country at the federal and provincial level. regardless of whether or not it creates minority gov'ts. hell Canada ran very well recently when there was federal minority gov'ts.

 

ok now I'm rambling so i'll stop there other than to say it's interesting to me that the countries in the world that consistently rank high in standard of living and happiness are the high-taxed, socialist Scandinavian countries. that doesn't seem to reconcile with the general north american mindset.

[Admin2]

I'm all for healthy debate, but please keep it clean and refrain from the name calling and the use of "****"

 

Us Admins would like to see this thread live without having to edit any posts or suspend members.

 

Thanks

[vhawk12]

Being a born-and-bred Albertan, especially from a rural community, my blood has always run pretty blue; both Blue-collar and Conservative Blue. For me, the economy is usually the front-runner, who do I think will manage taxpayer dollars and spend wisely. I tend to put emphasis on industry and business less-so on social programs, the arts, etc. Not because I don't value those things, but industry and business are the building blocks of our society, and without them, there is nothing else, and that's why it's most important on my list.

 

With any type of Leader/Party campaign promise I like to keep it simple by asking three questions:

 

1. Why do we need it? - is this something that will benefit the masses, or is it something to appease a minority group?

2. How much is it going to cost? - is the net benefit to Albertans/Canadians worth the cost?

3. How is it going to be paid for? - this is the most important one to me and always the question I ask whenever I see politicians making promises

 

When I was in University, I started listening to Jack Layton yammer on a bit and thought he was making a lot of sense, and he was, no question that he had good ideas, he was going to fight for the middle and lower class, all good things....then I was chatting with my dad and told him that I liked what Layton was saying. He sat back, paused a moment and said "yup, those are all great ideas son, but how are they going to pay for all of that?" and it struck me that I hadn't even considered that part of the equation. I think a lot of people are like that, they want to hear what these guys are going to do for them, but they don't ask how they're going to cover the costs. Then the turds hit the fan and the fix becomes 'raise corporate taxes', because somehow folks believe that corporations have to stay in this country and do business, which is far from the truth. So what's next? Raise income tax...well then the revolt and tomato-throwing ensues. So if the government doesn't want to drive tax-paying, job-producing industry/business out of the country and no one wants to pay higher income tax, what's left?? DEBT....

 

As for Norway, I think you'd be hard pressed to convince the populous over here to give up 45% of their wages and trust their government to spend it properly. Also, a little country called Greece also operates under a Socialist regime, think I've read about them in the news a couple weeks ago...they were also in the news back in 2009...something about potentially bankrupting an entire country?

[Ricinus]

Hmmm, Norway Corporate tax 27%, personal 0 to 47.2%,. VAT 8% to 25%. Damn, I guess they do trust their Government..

 

Mike

[DonAndersen]

I'm with Vhawk12 -every action should always be framed as:

 

1] Who does it?

2] What does it cost?

3] Who is raising the funds?

4] How soon does it get done?

5] Where is it applied?

6] How is going to be implemented?

 

and lastly and most importantly - Who benefits and who loses? If all those questions were asked and answered. most of the issues facing us would disappear.

 

Don