fisher26 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I'm going to utilize the immense body of knowledge on this board again. Just a quick question, I use to have a finger trap type thing between the leader and fly line and it broke (thank god I didn’t have a fish on). So I decided to tie a loop (like a leader loop) into my fly line so I can make the loop to loop connection quickly. Is this ok? Or is it bad for my fly line or the energy transfer between line and leader? (It's a pretty small un-bulky knot) Thanks to all those who answer (It would be nice to know soon as I'm heading out early tomorrow) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreLastCast Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Should be fine if it goes thru your guides. I used to use the same loop connection things that you broke and stopped after losing a few leaders, so I wouldn't recommend them. Nothing beats a good old fashion Nail Knot IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I like to tie on a 10" section of leader butt or heavy mono (25# Maxima is best), and put a perfection loop on it. Then you can loop-to-loop to change leaders. Some folks tie a blood knot between the heavy mono and the leader too - but the loop-to-loop is easy and perfection loops are a snap to tie once you get the hang of it. The ultimate fly line to leader connection is a Zap-a-Gap connection, but I've never got it to work and I haven't been able to find a pin vise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headscan Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 The ultimate fly line to leader connection is a Zap-a-Gap connection, but I've never got it to work and I haven't been able to find a pin vise. You can get a pin vise at most hobby stores and model train places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birchy Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Doesn't most high end fly line come with a loop built in the end now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Din Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Doesn't most high end fly line come with a loop built in the end now? I know SA lines do. I tried the loop on two lines but the both started cracking right above the loop....I now cut the loop off tho and tie some 20lb maxima and make a loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowbonehead Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Loop to loop is fast and easy and as mentioned a lot of the new lines now come that way with a loop already there. Call me old fashioned or just plain stubborn but I still prefer to add a heavy butt 2 to 3 feet with a nail knot and bloodknot the leader from there if you use zap a gap or a similar product on your nail knot connection you will form a nice bead that will pass through your tiptop and guides effortlessly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenbow Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Lotsa good lines come with loops and lots don't. You can get loop connection adapters for those that don't I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanJuanWorm Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I've done the exact same thing and its held for 2 years now. Im just too lazy to nail knot some mono on there. Now that my line is cracked in 100 places i'll just get some new line with a loop on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbadbrent Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 dave wait for the sharkskin..expensive. but holy hell, you'll enjoy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birchy Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 dave wait for the sharkskin..expensive. but holy hell, you'll enjoy it Better for dry fly fishing Brent?? I was going to pick up myself some of that SA Mastery Nymph taper for nymphing and then the GPX or Trout taper for dries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbadbrent Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Just go GPX, it will do both of the presentations for drys and nymphing, and half the price of buying 2 mastery lines. The trout just has a more precise taper for dry fly's, and the nymph has the same, but for nymphing. GPX is a mix of the both, and the best of both worlds in my mind, i'd rather just switch flies, then swap spools (though, different game if you want a sink tip or something) The Sharkskin is just an amazing line, i didn't get a chance to go fishing with it yet, just had the chance to play around with it for a bit. Hopefully i'll be able to grab one to try out on the river here quick.. This line is just the absolute mastery of fly lines, it shoots like an RPG out of the tip (was using it on a Z-axis) and unfolds like nothing i've ever seen. I imagine its going to be a more general line like the GPX.....It floats a lot higher due to the way its made (almost like golf ball dimples, but more of a diamond shape..) so therefore it should cast easier, pick up off the water easier, mend easier, less drag...pretty much the ultimate line..i'll be getting myself one for my new zealand trip..if that tells you anything should be out in stores in december, but steeeep (105 bucks, at least) and you'll have to clean it almost every other day, just because of the way the line is made, picks up dirt like crazy (like the ridgeline, but 100x better) I currently have a RIO Gold on my 4 weight (though its a 5 weight line, my 5 weight is broken) and its a sweet little line too, once you get used to it that is..perfect nymphing line for me so far..that one should be in stores here pretty quick..still has a bit of memory, but it is a brand new line (fished it twice..u can ask rickr about me bitching about it the first day, but my casting got a lot better by the end of the day)...should be on my rod for a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanJuanWorm Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I'll buy any line that doesnt crack in cold weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbadbrent Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 good luck with that hahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 The reviews I've heard about that Sharkskin from folks who've cast it is that it's not all it's hyped up to be. I would wait for a review from someone who's actually fished or at least cast it before dropping a hundred bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbadbrent Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 i've casted it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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