Whats The Difference???

[ULTRAlite]

What is the difference between a wooly bugger and a "leech pattern". On a list of recommened flies that I came across, it has wooly bugger listed as well as leech patterns. I thought the wooly bugger was supposed to be a leech. Am I missing something? After a quick google image search, they look to be very similair....

 

... so what is the difference??

 

Thanks

UL

[fishpro]

You are correct in assuming that a woolly bugger is a leech pattern. There are others out there as well that are more specific to imitation leeches. These flies have greater amounts of marabou on them, therefore have more action in the water.

[Guest bigbadbrent]

wooly buggers are an attractor more then an imitation.....they 'imitate' leech's, baitfish, damselfly and dragon flys..

[ULTRAlite]

Awww - O.K. gotcha - anyone have any closeup pics of a specific leech pattern that I could have a look at?

[lonefisher]

http://www.missouritrout.com/mikesmohairleech.htm

http://westernsportfishing.ca/flytying2.htm

http://shop.flyfishing.about.com/fly_archi...etails/1255.htm

http://www.about-flyfishing.com/library/weekly/aa062901b.htm

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/dmanders/leech.html

 

and the little beasties themselves

http://bio-ditrl.sunsite.ualberta.ca/searc...p_find=Annelida

hope all the links work

 

and a shameless big fish plug

[ULTRAlite]

Awesome - thanks for the help guys...

 

and a shameless big fish plug

 

can't get too much of that.... Nice One

[esleech]

As if Lone fisher, you caught that on a chiken wing...

[lonefisher]

chicken wing? I used the whole damn chicken! Now thats dry fly fishing!

[Guest rusty]

jeeeeeeeeeez that's a nice bully...

[Glenbow]

He was trolling a Shitzu, I was there. The Shitzu is actually in the fish's gut in this picture, hence the slight bulge.

[lonefisher]

I actually catch quite a lot of those big bulls on my anchor rope they just bite and won't let go...... The fact that i use a 30 piece bucket of KFC chicken as an anchor plays absolutely no part in it........

But in all honesty that was a very long fish but he was early season and was actually quite skinny compared to some of the fish later in the season. His tail gives you a good idea of how much he(she actually I think) would have bulked up. Thats a pretty big tail.

 

But rather then completely poaching this thread I will offer an insight of mine to leechs..... exact patterns mean nothing like many of the critters we imitate they do often come in different shades, sizes colours ect. I like to use very subtle imitations that have some attractor qualities. Bloom off this forum is basically where I got the idea to put a red head on my leech patterns...... I find this tiny attractor quality plays a large part in convincing fish to bite..... I also like materials that have either a shiny look or I like to hide a bit of flash or red flash within the body..... One of these days I will post a few of my leech patterns..... I also find that sometimes you can work an area hard with one leech pattern until the fishing slows and then simply switch to a pattern nearly the same but a bit different and re' educate the fish a second time.... Also I like a lot of weight for most of my leechs and I (this is a matter of some contention) prefer loop knots for the added action......

[ULTRAlite]

One of these days I will post a few of my leech patterns

would love to see em...

 

Also I like a lot of weight for most of my leechs and I (this is a matter of some contention) prefer loop knots for the added action

loop knot to the fly? - I've always done the improved clinch - do you have a link or description (worth a try right)

 

Thanks

UL

[lonefisher]

http://www.redchaser.com/monoloop.htm

 

Thats the loopknot I use.... Thats a altwater site but the knot is the same.....to be precise it is illustration 2a

[Guest tallieho]

with the first example[lefty's],does the knot or loop close up when you have a fish on.this has been my experince,so i tie a granny on the tag & tighten down to the knot.i still have a loop.any other sugestions or am i doing something wrong. thanks

[lonefisher]

hmmm not sure if I quite understand but if you use the ill#2a and carefully seat the knot you get a small loop through the eye of the hook that would be about 1/8 th - 2/8th's of an inch in diameter.... the loop should not close when you have a fish on.