ogilvie Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 I remember the first Calgary Fly Fishing show when we had likely 10 Two Handers leaning against the racks, rarely picked up and often Questioned"whats that for?" or "is that a fly rod?". At that time I recall just a flicker of interest from those attending the show. On the wall we had Hardy,Lamiglas,Loop,Winston and a few custom rods. My thoughts at the time were that many of these big rods were too much for Bow and other Southern Alberta rivers as Two Handers and that True "Trouters and Switch rods" were the ticket for the majority of local needs. The obvious was that once caught on to it would blossom. My question to you is this,without mentioning brand names,"What are the most functional Switch or Two handers for those Rivers,or the majority of the fishing stiuations?" Purely Interest that may assist everyone Quote
lethfisher Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 i have an 11'2 7wt switch and it might be a tad large, i like flyon's 6 wt suggestions around 10'6" or 11' i think a 5/6 switch will be my next rod. Quote
speyghillie Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 Got to be 18ft 10/11wt...... for my switch rod G. Quote
cheeler Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 My DC 12.5' 5/6 is my go to rod, but with smaller flies it might be fun to have something a bit lighter or shorter, like a switch. Quote
SilverDoctor Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 Without mentioning brands I have two 12.5 two handers a 4 wt and 6 wt, hope to add a 7 wt to the mix this year. Will more than likely sell the 6 wt, use the 4 wt most of the time. No Switch rods yet, haven't really made an imprint on me yet. Are you wondering what rods to bring to he show this year? Quote
headscan Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 Doing some market research Courtney? So out of curiosity, is everyone talking AFTMA or "spey rod ratings" for line weights on their switchers? Some of the switch rods out there use ratings more compatible with AFTMA like a certain company in Bainbridge (in keeping with not mentioning brand names) and others use ratings similar to those on their full two-handed counterparts. I like my 12' 6wt and 12' 6" 5wt (both full spey rods and spey line weights) for trout on the Bow. If I were to get a switch for the Bow it would likely be an 11' 5wt (AFTMA) rod. Quote
ogilvie Posted November 29, 2009 Author Posted November 29, 2009 Doing some market research Courtney? So out of curiosity, is everyone talking AFTMA or "spey rod ratings" for line weights on their switchers? Some of the switch rods out there use ratings more compatible with AFTMA like a certain company in Bainbridge (in keeping with not mentioning brand names) and others use ratings similar to those on their full two-handed counterparts. I like my 12' 6wt and 12' 6" 5wt (both full spey rods and spey line weights) for trout on the Bow. If I were to get a switch for the Bow it would likely be an 11' 5wt (AFTMA) rod. A bit of research for sure but more importantly to see where this has gone. I really like the longer light weight rods myself...for Trout Rivers like you lucky people have... If we are lucky this winter won't be too crazy so we can fish a bit when we are there... For me the lightest I fish is a 11'6" 5wt..love those little rods Quote
maxwell Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 i prefer the shorter speys and switches in th 10'6" too 12' range in t 6 or 7wt.. 7's or 8' for switches.... bin loving teh Mod Edit please don`t mention brands like the loop opti switch in the 6 the last few outings.. deadly trout stick for the bow! Quote
ogilvie Posted November 30, 2009 Author Posted November 30, 2009 i prefer the shorter speys and switches in th 10'6" too 12' range in t 6 or 7wt.. 7's or 8' for switches.... bin loving t loop opti switch in the 6 the last few outings.. deadly trout stick for the bow! MAX!!??no brand names...whatsup...or could that be...'sup?edit edit Quote
jack Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 Researched the smaller inland rivers and larger streams for the past two years, Court. I used a 12' 5/6 but then settled on a preferred 11' length for both 3/4 (spey rating) and a 6wt for those rivers with larger occasional fish in them. j Quote
SilverDoctor Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 I should add that for the switch rods that I have tried in various lengths, I would certainly buy in the 10 to 11 ft range. Fot the 7 wt. that I hope to pick up it will be a 13.5. This judging by what I have tried a at variety of Spey claves in BC and the US. Quote
bhurt Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 I've only used a spey on the bow and no where else and what I prefeer to use is my 6wt 12foot (just recently purchased) I am going to be using my 7wt 12foot for streamers and sinktips. I can see where someone might want a long rod, for example I need to make a 60 or 70 foot cast to swing some flies through a run in the winter time, wehre the water is too cold for me to be in for any extended period of time, I could then switch to a 13 or a 14 foot rod, could I make the casts I desire with my 12 foot rod, most likely but why have to work for a cast when I can switch up to a slightly longer rod for greater distances. Just my two cents, what do I know really anyways! Quote
Rufusred Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 11 foot 6wt w: Windcutter 5/6 tips Compact Scandi 330gr Compact Skagit 420gr 100' 20lb Ridge running line 11 foot 7wt w: Windcutter 6/7/8 tips Compact Scandi 420gr Compact Skagit 510gr 100' 30lb Ridge running line Quote
Bowcane Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I found a 12' 6wt to be the best for just about any-thing any-where resident freshwater. Something smooth and light (too bad Sage didn't/doesn't make a SP spey rod!) with a traditional action which loads nice in the 350-400 grain range with short and mid belly lines, and scandi's 290-325 grain with a nice crisp feel . Does all the tips to 6"/sec and flexes enough to handle 24"ers on flies down to #16-#18. Quote
bhurt Posted December 16, 2009 Posted December 16, 2009 I like my 14' #6/7 best for both indicator nymphing and streamers with sink tips. Line control and mending with the longer rod gets the fly into the spots I want. There are some places that I need to make the 90' cast to reach a cross river hole on the swing and I don't have the chops to get there with a 12' 6" rod. Badger, I agree with what you have to say 100% why work harder for a longer cast when you can just use a longer rod with half the amount of energy Quote
headscan Posted December 17, 2009 Posted December 17, 2009 Badger, I agree with what you have to say 100% why work harder for a longer cast when you can just use a longer rod with half the amount of energy You should be letting the rod do the work. A longer rod will get you some extra distance with the same amount of effort, but in my experience they're heavier and will tire you out sooner than a shorter, lighter rod. Quote
speyghillie Posted December 17, 2009 Posted December 17, 2009 Hey guys. Good to see the speycasters of Calgary are still at it, and debating the ins and outs of the needs for the Bow river, a couple of points come to mind, don't need a huge rod for the Bow, but sometimes workin hard with a short rod is more tiring, i remember the airflow 40 plus fly line which was a line rated all wrong by the manufacture to make it seem like it just flew out the rod tip, designed like a heavy shooting head, but to fish all day was tiring, hard work on the rod and me. Gordo. Quote
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