I have three Islanders, one Ross, one old Orvis, and a whole bunch of Hardy's, which are older than a great deal of the people on this forum. They all have seen a tremendous amount of use in both fresh and salt water. All are still in great shape and still in use. None of the newer reels come even close to the Hardy's or the old Orvis, but they do make reasonable back ups. As you can imagine they don't get used much, only the ones with specialty lines on them, because I ran out of spare spools for my Hardys. What a sweet sound those Hardy's make with a fish on . Quiet reels how boring!!!!